Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

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But artists aren’t dropping albums with 15 songs and no hooks, they put just as much stock into their verses as they do choruses, whats a good lyrical song if the chrous is trash? and vice versa

But to downplay like next to every artist doesn’t get help at some point (my main point) is hypocritical, when the only argument you have to stand on is “choruses don’t matter”

If choruses didn’t matter these artists wouldn’t be reaching out to get help with them, they’d just leave it blank or put whatever there
Yeah but we not talking about the albums artists drop.

We talking about writing lyrics.

And there seems to be this impediment for a few to understand why writing a hook is not equivalent to writing verses.

We're not even talking about what goes in to crafting a song. We talking about writing rhymes.

And again, its not hooks don't matter at all. Its hooks do not matter to this topic.

This is like that one post some idiot made a while back (in a Kanye thread) about he ain't a good producer cuz all he does is sample other songs and doesn't have original production.

Thinking like that shows a clear lack of understanding about hip hop music.
 
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so if you write a verse thats 16 bars, but somebody wrote 8 is that ok??

or if somebody wrote 3 is that ok?
 
LMAO u tried bro...

he wrote Weston road flows huh? did u even read what u posted?

You posted a link with Drake writing credits for two songs on TLOP. I posted two links with a bunch of writing credits for the two people you asked for.........

Did you read what you posted? :nerd:
 
You posted a link with Drake writing credits for two songs on TLOP. I posted two links with a bunch of writing credits for the two people you asked for.........

Did you read what you posted? :nerd:

lol those are all their songs and songs w samples of them in it...youre drunk bro go home.
 
That's what happens when you use a logical fallacy. You gotta ride it in to the ground or switch to another one.

Dre or Puff writing songs for others is irrelevant.

Drake writing songs for others is irrelevant.

What does that have to do with ppl writing verses for Drake?

Nothing but you won't admit that. Got a clear bias here.

Fairweather fans :smh:
 
Yeah but we not talking about the albums artists drop.

We talking about writing lyrics.

And there seems to be this impediment for a few to understand why writing a hook is not equivalent to writing verses.

We're not even talking about what goes in to crafting a song. We talking about writing rhymes.

And again, its not hooks don't matter at all. Its hooks do not matter to this topic.

This is like that one post some idiot made a while back (in a Kamye thread) about he ain't a good producer cuz all he does is sample other songs and doesn't have original production.

Thinking like that shows a clear lack of understanding about hip hop music.

Alright man we just gonna have to have differing opinions on it

No diss to you but it’s a pointless conversation because we all put different levels of stock into things

What happens a lot is people twist arguments to fit their narrative, there’s no level playing field *shrugs*
 
What did I say?

:lol:

You over like a worm trying to wriggle ya way out of any opening you think you see.

lol gotcha. so basically no bars from another person is ok...yet plenty rappers say their homies give them bars in the studio.


u just exposed yourself once again. L
 
Feel dumb for rehashing this :lol:

40, Boi1da, PND, Cole, Sean, other artists, all have testified to Drake's pen. 40 actually went into detail how that entire Quentin **** came to be. Hell Quentin said that the album was basically done when he came into the picture.

1da has openly said that he's seen Drake pen some of his biggest hits dolo. 40 has said that virtually every single one of drake's hits were penned by him.

Based on info that's out there, there's no doubt that Drake's pen is there. It's clear as day that he writes his raps. He's got grammy award winning records where he's literally the only writer listed on the song.

It's also true that he's gotten help with lines, verses and concepts throughout his career.

Both things can be true, and in this case it is based on what we the public know.
 
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lol gotcha. so basically no bars from another person is ok...yet plenty rappers say their homies give them bars in the studio.


u just exposed yourself once again. L
:rofl:

How did I expose myself?

What did I say?

"Plenty rappers" okay man.

This is all for the love of Drake. Went from but he writes for others as if that makes it better to trying to come up with how many bars until its okay.

Watch the doc to get a better understanding of lyricism I guess.
 
And ye is CLEARLY trolling to be on the front of CNN, TMZ, Shaderoom, etc.

This is the same guy who openly told Cthagod that he enjoys being the donkey of the day, and enjoys the papz because it brought him more relevance.
 
Feel dumb for rehashing this :lol:

40, Boi1da, PND, Cole, Sean, other artists, all have testified to Drake's pen. 40 actually went into detail how that entire Quentin **** came to be. Hell Quentin said that the album was basically done when he came into the picture.

Based on info that's out there, there's no doubt that Drake's pen is there. It's clear as day that he writes his raps. He's got grammy award winning records where he's literally the only writer listed on the song.

It's also true that he's gotten help with lines, verses and concepts throughout his career.

Both things can be true, and in this case it is based on what we the public know.

Probably the most level headed response
 
Hes gotten help w verses. thats fair to say. the facts are there. but like I said the diddy **** is just trolling. ****** ******ed.

makes no sense for someone who has written for other ppl multiple times to be compared to diddy or Dre who literally outsource and get anyone to write SONGS and ALBUMS and **** for them.
 
Feel dumb for rehashing this :lol:

40, Boi1da, PND, Cole, Sean, other artists, all have testified to Drake's pen. 40 actually went into detail how that entire Quentin **** came to be. Hell Quentin said that the album was basically done when he came into the picture.

1da has openly said that he's seen Drake pen some of his biggest hits dolo. 40 has said that virtually every single one of drake's hits were penned by him.

Based on info that's out there, there's no doubt that Drake's pen is there. It's clear as day that he writes his raps. He's got grammy award winning records where he's literally the only writer listed on the song.

It's also true that he's gotten help with lines, verses and concepts throughout his career.

Both things can be true, and in this case it is based on what we the public know.

Settled that for both sides

Back to Kanye slander...

Y’all gonna listen to the album(s)?
 
Feel dumb for rehashing this :lol:

40, Boi1da, PND, Cole, Sean, other artists, all have testified to Drake's pen. 40 actually went into detail how that entire Quentin **** came to be. Hell Quentin said that the album was basically done when he came into the picture.

1da has openly said that he's seen Drake pen some of his biggest hits dolo. 40 has said that virtually every single one of drake's hits were penned by him.

Based on info that's out there, there's no doubt that Drake's pen is there. It's clear as day that he writes his raps. He's got grammy award winning records where he's literally the only writer listed on the song.

It's also true that he's gotten help with lines, verses and concepts throughout his career.

Both things can be true, and in this case it is based on what we the public know.

lol the haters won't accept this tho.


" HE DONT WRITE!! HE DIDDY HE DRE!!!"
 


This was cool

Can’t believe Cole dropped those two hot *** songs before 4YEO, only to turn around and drop 4YEO :smh:
 
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