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Calm down, tough guy.

I laugh at how one set of people with an unproven set of beliefs can laugh at another group of people who have an unproven set of beliefs.

"Well don't you have a set of unproven beliefs?"

No, I don't.

I believe in what has been proven, and for what hasn't been proven, I believe that I don't know the answer.

That was adorable, though. Please go on.
tbh in a sense one could say believers are kinda arrogant and pompous.... its basically saying hey i know just about everything and what i cant explain it must be a deity or some sort of higher being etc......

Like not knowing, just not having an answer is out the realms of possibility. Its like believers is on some hey anything i cant explain definitively it has to be a god, it cant be simply we dont have the answers at this present time.
 
until full knowledge of reality is uncovered.....agnostic > *
 
I remember that SillyPutty always used to post those charts explaining the differences 
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,I'd probably consider myself an agnostic atheist. I lack belief in a God/Gods but I don't claim to know any truth with 100% cerainty
 
Incorrect.  You can't answer "I don't know" to the question "Do you believe in God?" because it's not a knowledge-based question.

If you don't actively believe there's a God, then you don't believe in God.
do you believe in god isn't the question..

the question is "is there a god?".... 

the answer to that question is whether you believe or not...

i say i don't know
 
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Incorrect.  You can't answer "I don't know" to the question "Do you believe in God?" because it's not a knowledge-based question.

If you don't actively believe there's a God, then you don't believe in God.
do you believe in god isn't the question..

the question is "is there a god?".... 

the answer to that question is whether you believe or not...
You're totally missing what I'm saying.

There are two questions.  The first is "Is there a God?".  This question is in regard to Gnosticism. This question you can answer "I don't know" to because it's asking what you KNOW.

The second question is "Do you believe there's a God?".  This question is in regard to Theism.  It's possible for someone claim to not know, but still believe (or any of the 4 combinations).
 
 
 
Incorrect.  You can't answer "I don't know" to the question "Do you believe in God?" because it's not a knowledge-based question.

If you don't actively believe there's a God, then you don't believe in God.
do you believe in god isn't the question..

the question is "is there a god?".... 

the answer to that question is whether you believe or not...
You're totally missing what I'm saying.

There are two questions.  The first is "Is there a God?".  This question is in regard to Gnosticism. This question you can answer "I don't know" to because it's asking what you KNOW.

The second question is "Do you believe there's a God?".  This question is in regard to Theism.  It's possible for someone claim to not know, but still believe (or any of the 4 combinations).
its possible for a person to say i don't know to the first and say i don't believe either way to the second... pure agnostic
 
 
 
 
Incorrect.  You can't answer "I don't know" to the question "Do you believe in God?" because it's not a knowledge-based question.

If you don't actively believe there's a God, then you don't believe in God.
do you believe in god isn't the question..

the question is "is there a god?".... 

the answer to that question is whether you believe or not...
You're totally missing what I'm saying.

There are two questions.  The first is "Is there a God?".  This question is in regard to Gnosticism. This question you can answer "I don't know" to because it's asking what you KNOW.

The second question is "Do you believe there's a God?".  This question is in regard to Theism.  It's possible for someone claim to not know, but still believe (or any of the 4 combinations).
its possible for a person to say i don't know to the first and say i don't believe either way to the second... pure agnostic
So if you don't believe either way, you don't believe in God.

Congratulations, you're an agnostic atheist.
 
"Is there a god?"
It hasn't been proven to me that there definitely is, nor has it been proven to me that there absolutely is not.

"Do you believe there's a god?"
Personally, I don't believe so, no.
 
 So if you don't believe either way, you don't believe in God.

Congratulations, you're an agnostic atheist.
i believe as much in there being a god as in there not being a god...

i wont rule out the possibility... so how does that equate to not believing...

saying i believe there is no god is false.... im not athiest nor am i theist
 
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Cmon brother, u need a nice sturdy toilet when u let all the homeless and needy around the world come to your mansion and use the restroom
 
I think I'm finally getting it.
Yall (non African Americans) think we (African American Christians) still believe the lies we were told about God and his plans for the white man and his family to still have complete control of our lives. And it's hard for you to believe anything else because you've been taught that all of your lives.
If you notice they always reference the African American church as "those POOR PEOPLE(as in financially poor) giving their last dime to a so called preacher". That's why you have non-African Americans on here commenting as though they have studied black history, but the reality is they just like talking down about black people.

We (African Americans) still have this notion that to serve Christ means you are serving the "white man's God", and the last thing an intellectual strong willed African American wants to do is agree with anything the people who have plotted to keep them downtrodden believes in.
This leads to a separation of our people because those that don't follow the Christian faith, see all African American Christians as the enemy because they presume we have accepted the "white man's religion". Completely discrediting the fact that the Bible clearly references the beginnings of time and civilization were established on what's now the continent of Africa, and all the people in the old testament belonged to tribes.

Furthermore to assume and insinuate that my ancestors that were brought to this country and forced to build this country for free, were so dumb and weak that a few sentences in a book made them stay and take beatings, lynchings and rapings is the most self degrading bull**** an African American can believe about their own people. I expect other races to believe that bull**** because it fits their mythological mindset that they are superior to the Black man and woman. But if you're African American and subscribe to that idiocy, your slippin and have allowed them to divide and conquer once again.

Last but not least, there's this laughable notion that African American Christians are submissive and soft. Let me help yall with that.

Step to me wrong I'm knocking out your teeth. Make a move like you are attempting to harm my family and your toe gettin tagged. Is that submissive enough for you? #godbless #jesussaves #turntheothercheek #getyoazzknockedthefuuuout
 
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I think I'm finally getting it.
Yall (non African Americans) think we (African American Christians) still believe the lies we were told about God and his plans for the white man and his family to still have complete control of our lives. And it's hard for you to believe anything else because you've been taught that all of your lives.
If you notice they always reference the African American church as "those POOR PEOPLE(as in financially poor) giving their last dime to a so called preacher". That's why you have non-African Americans on here commenting as though they have studied black history, but the reality is they just like talking down about black people.

We (African Americans) still have this notion that to serve Christ means you are serving the "white man's God", and the last thing an intellectual strong willed African American wants to do is agree with anything the people who have plotted to keep them downtrodden believes in.
This leads to a separation of our people because those that don't follow the Christian faith, see all African American Christians as the enemy because they presume we have accepted the "white man's religion". Completely discrediting the fact that the Bible clearly references the beginnings of time and civilization were established on what's now the continent of Africa, and all the people in the old testament belonged to tribes.

Furthermore to assume and insinuate that my ancestors that were brought to this country and forced to build this country for free, were so dumb and weak that a few sentences in a book made them stay and take beatings, lynchings and rapings is the most self degrading bull**** an African American can believe about their own people. I expect other races to believe that bull**** because it fits their mythological mindset that they are superior to the Black man and woman. But if you're African American and subscribe to that idiocy, your slippin and have allowed them to divide and conquer once again.

Last but not least, there's this laughable notion that African American Christians are submissive and soft. Let me help yall with that.

Step to me wrong I'm knocking out your teeth. Make a move like you are attempting to harm my family and your toe gettin tagged. Is that submissive enough for you? #godbless #jesussaves #turntheothercheek #getyoazzknockedthefuuuout
 
I think I'm finally getting it.
Yall (non African Americans) think we (African American Christians) still believe the lies we were told about God and his plans for the white man and his family to still have complete control of our lives. And it's hard for you to believe anything else because you've been taught that all of your lives.
If you notice they always reference the African American church as "those POOR PEOPLE(as in financially poor) giving their last dime to a so called preacher". That's why you have non-African Americans on here commenting as though they have studied black history, but the reality is they just like talking down about black people.

We (African Americans) still have this notion that to serve Christ means you are serving the "white man's God", and the last thing an intellectual strong willed African American wants to do is agree with anything the people who have plotted to keep them downtrodden believes in.
This leads to a separation of our people because those that don't follow the Christian faith, see all African American Christians as the enemy because they presume we have accepted the "white man's religion". Completely discrediting the fact that the Bible clearly references the beginnings of time and civilization were established on what's now the continent of Africa, and all the people in the old testament belonged to tribes.

Furthermore to assume and insinuate that my ancestors that were brought to this country and forced to build this country for free, were so dumb and weak that a few sentences in a book made them stay and take beatings, lynchings and rapings is the most self degrading bull**** an African American can believe about their own people. I expect other races to believe that bull**** because it fits their mythological mindset that they are superior to the Black man and woman. But if you're African American and subscribe to that idiocy, your slippin and have allowed them to divide and conquer once again.

Last but not least, there's this laughable notion that African American Christians are submissive and soft. Let me help yall with that.

Step to me wrong I'm knocking out your teeth. Make a move like you are attempting to harm my family and your toe gettin tagged. Is that submissive enough for you? #godbless #jesussaves #turntheothercheek #getyoazzknockedthefuuuout


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Last but not least, there's this laughable notion that African American Christians are submissive and soft. Let me help yall with that.

Step to me wrong I'm knocking out your teeth. Make a move like you are attempting to harm my family and your toe gettin tagged. Is that submissive enough for you? #godbless #jesussaves #turntheothercheek #getyoazzknockedthefuuuout
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I think I'm finally getting it.
Yall (non African Americans) think we (African American Christians) still believe the lies we were told about God and his plans for the white man and his family to still have complete control of our lives. And it's hard for you to believe anything else because you've been taught that all of your lives.
If you notice they always reference the African American church as "those POOR PEOPLE(as in financially poor) giving their last dime to a so called preacher". That's why you have non-African Americans on here commenting as though they have studied black history, but the reality is they just like talking down about black people.

We (African Americans) still have this notion that to serve Christ means you are serving the "white man's God", and the last thing an intellectual strong willed African American wants to do is agree with anything the people who have plotted to keep them downtrodden believes in.
This leads to a separation of our people because those that don't follow the Christian faith, see all African American Christians as the enemy because they presume we have accepted the "white man's religion". Completely discrediting the fact that the Bible clearly references the beginnings of time and civilization were established on what's now the continent of Africa, and all the people in the old testament belonged to tribes.

Furthermore to assume and insinuate that my ancestors that were brought to this country and forced to build this country for free, were so dumb and weak that a few sentences in a book made them stay and take beatings, lynchings and rapings is the most self degrading bull**** an African American can believe about their own people. I expect other races to believe that bull**** because it fits their mythological mindset that they are superior to the Black man and woman. But if you're African American and subscribe to that idiocy, your slippin and have allowed them to divide and conquer once again.

Last but not least, there's this laughable notion that African American Christians are submissive and soft. Let me help yall with that.

Step to me wrong I'm knocking out your teeth. Make a move like you are attempting to harm my family and your toe gettin tagged. Is that submissive enough for you? #godbless #jesussaves #turntheothercheek #getyoazzknockedthefuuuout
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