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Ok rent a dad, why were you a father figure for only 4 and 2 years? A good father figure stays a father figure, they don't stop, ESPECIALLY when the kids are so young. What could they have possibly learned from you? (thank god nothing)...Maybe you should stop trying to prove your foolish point.Originally Posted by RealRubirosa
I was actually the father figure in a couple children's lives--ages 1 and 3, until they were 3 and 5--and the common leap of logic is assuming every kid is like your kid. Your kid may be a complete angel that responds well to simply being told what is wrong and right. Some kids are much, much more consequence driven. In the not-so-rare-in-America case (1 in 25) that the person is a sociopath, they may use every trick in the book to do wrong and then also to escape punishment. I'm not questioning your parenting whatsoever, just trying to be devil's advocate to why a large, embarrassing scene might be just what a particular child needs to endure in order to know that they don't want to do whatever they did wrong ever again.
It's the fact that the dad is sitting by as strangers whoop his kid's a$s. Kids look to their parents as protectors. It's one thing when your family members or people established as an authority figure in your life whoop you, it's a whole other thing when a group of randoms humiliate you publicly like that.Originally Posted by RealRubirosa
I can't even keep count of how many times I've heard childhood recollections like, "my mom whooped me when I _____, and I'm glad she did because I never did it again." This was just a more dramatic case of using a child's embarrassment as the whooping. The physicality of the punishment on the video was moderate at most. If they were over there Liu Kang'ing the kid, that would be one thing... But they weren't.
THISOriginally Posted by thytkerjobs
It's the fact that the dad is sitting by as strangers whoop his kid's a$s. Kids look to their parents as protectors. It's one thing when your family members or people established as an authority figure in your life whoop you, it's a whole other thing when a group of randoms humiliate you publicly like that.Originally Posted by RealRubirosa
I can't even keep count of how many times I've heard childhood recollections like, "my mom whooped me when I _____, and I'm glad she did because I never did it again." This was just a more dramatic case of using a child's embarrassment as the whooping. The physicality of the punishment on the video was moderate at most. If they were over there Liu Kang'ing the kid, that would be one thing... But they weren't.
Originally Posted by thytkerjobs
It's the fact that the dad is sitting by as strangers whoop his kid's a$s. Kids look to their parents as protectors. It's one thing when your family members or people established as an authority figure in your life whoop you, it's a whole other thing when a group of randoms humiliate you publicly like that.Originally Posted by RealRubirosa
I can't even keep count of how many times I've heard childhood recollections like, "my mom whooped me when I _____, and I'm glad she did because I never did it again." This was just a more dramatic case of using a child's embarrassment as the whooping. The physicality of the punishment on the video was moderate at most. If they were over there Liu Kang'ing the kid, that would be one thing... But they weren't.
Originally Posted by RealRubirosa
Originally Posted by thytkerjobs
It's the fact that the dad is sitting by as strangers whoop his kid's a$s. Kids look to their parents as protectors. It's one thing when your family members or people established as an authority figure in your life whoop you, it's a whole other thing when a group of randoms humiliate you publicly like that.Originally Posted by RealRubirosa
I can't even keep count of how many times I've heard childhood recollections like, "my mom whooped me when I _____, and I'm glad she did because I never did it again." This was just a more dramatic case of using a child's embarrassment as the whooping. The physicality of the punishment on the video was moderate at most. If they were over there Liu Kang'ing the kid, that would be one thing... But they weren't.
Disagree. Do we know they're random people? They may be the shopkeepers. They may be his community--parental figures in themselves.
Originally Posted by ILL LEGAL OPERATION
...I'm all for whoopin', but nobody outside of my family is putting their hands on my child.
Originally Posted by thytkerjobs
Originally Posted by RealRubirosa
Originally Posted by thytkerjobs
It's the fact that the dad is sitting by as strangers whoop his kid's a$s. Kids look to their parents as protectors. It's one thing when your family members or people established as an authority figure in your life whoop you, it's a whole other thing when a group of randoms humiliate you publicly like that.
Disagree. Do we know they're random people? They may be the shopkeepers. They may be his community--parental figures in themselves.
I highly doubt that. So a close member of his community filmed this and released it to the world for lulz and further humiliation of the kid?
Originally Posted by ILL LEGAL OPERATION
Originally Posted by So Nyuh Shi Dae
Well, that kid's scarred for life.
I kinda agree...
...I'm all for whoopin', but nobody outside of my family is putting their hands on my child.
Originally Posted by SEND ONE
Originally Posted by ILL LEGAL OPERATION
...I'm all for whoopin', but nobody outside of my family is putting their hands on my child.
This.
I dont know what the kid stole, but I genuinely felt bad for him. Those cries and that look of desperation on his face didn't let me finish watching the vid.
Hey, if you're cool with shopkeepers beating your kid, then leaking video to the world to ensure that an appropriate level of embarrassment was reached, more power to you.Originally Posted by RealRubirosa
Originally Posted by thytkerjobs
Originally Posted by RealRubirosa
Disagree. Do we know they're random people? They may be the shopkeepers. They may be his community--parental figures in themselves.
I highly doubt that. So a close member of his community filmed this and released it to the world for lulz and further humiliation of the kid?
A large element of child discipline is embarrassment. This is evident in the humiliating event of having an accident/soiling pants, getting questions wrong when called upon in class, being seen as the cry baby for throwing tantrums, etc. And even continues on to the social implications people face when they're arrested I public. Denying the utility of embarrassment in discipline is foolish. My interpretation of the video is that they must be people that the father trusted if he allowed them to this. They also must be people who don't hate the child because they weren't hitting him with nearly any force. I'd be likely to guess they may be older siblings/family or people the child may look up to in the community. That, or they may be the shopkeepers--who also obviously weren't punishing the kid terribly physically. Having the actual shopkeeper punish the child could be sound if you use the principle of associated discipline. That is, the same theory that says that a late punishment is a useless punishment--because the child won't know what action yielded the punishment.
Really? I've never seen a kid cry like that over something as minuscule as you said. Embarrassment? Nah, look at his face he looks scared for his life.Originally Posted by RealRubirosa
Originally Posted by SEND ONE
Originally Posted by ILL LEGAL OPERATION
...I'm all for whoopin', but nobody outside of my family is putting their hands on my child.
This.
I dont know what the kid stole, but I genuinely felt bad for him. Those cries and that look of desperation on his face didn't let me finish watching the vid.
Seriously? Kids cry like that when they don't get to go to the park or get the cartoony cereal at the grocery store. He looked to be crying mostly out of embarrassment--which he arguably deserves--and not out of fear or pain. His dad was likely nearby and they weren't hitting him with any force whatsoever.I have witnessed a woman pull over her car and whoop her child with a belt. THAT was too much, and we actually did butt in and scold the mother into stopping.