Oh I'm sorry, Did I Break Your Conversation........Well Allow Me A Movie Thread by S&T

The cinematography is Joker is top tier but the movie has a lot of failed potential. The bombing of the courtroom should have been in the first 30 min and the movie should taken place from there. It's almost this joker was a 🖕🏾 to joker fans instead of touting him as some revolutionary figure they showed him for what he was a delusional, broken mentally ill man.
 
Loyal to Cal until the very end. I wish Spicer Lovejoy had survived. Rest in Peace, soldier. (1861-1912)
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It’s crazy to me that A Star is Born has been made 4 separate times (1937, 1954, 1976 and 2018). Each version is a little different, but same basic premise.

I wonder what the 2038 version will be like?
 
It’s crazy to me that A Star is Born has been made 4 separate times (1937, 1954, 1976 and 2018). Each version is a little different, but same basic premise.

I wonder what the 2038 version will be like?
EYE did not know that.
I love this thread. 😂🔥
 
It’s crazy to me that A Star is Born has been made 4 separate times (1937, 1954, 1976 and 2018). Each version is a little different, but same basic premise.

I wonder what the 2038 version will be like?
The '76 one has Kris Kristofferson, Gary Busey, and Barbara effing Streisand!
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1954?! Just JUDY GARLAND.
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Next one got S H O E S to fill, cotdamb.
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Little Women as well
You’re right! (Per IMDB it’s like 8 times if you count TV versions as well).

I still have to see the Gerwig one.

The 90s one with Winona Ryder, etc. is one of only two movies that I actually shed a tear in - when Claire Dane’s character dies.

(The other movie that made me well up a little was Toy Story 3)
 
Just finished 12 Years a Slave for the first time. That was a tough watch. Not sure enjoyed is the right word but it was interesting and thought provoking.
 
I made a post about it when I first got diagnosed in 2021, curable cancer but I had a (not totally unexpected) relapse this summer. Its cause I didnt do a certain procedure before and thought immunotherapy by itself would be enough, we were seeing if it would be a longterm solution to avoid that procedure. So yeah a setback but not entirely unexpected so its not like “oh my god woe is me its back” or anything. Its more like ok, guess we actually gotta do the other thing lol.

wishing you a speedy recovery. **** cancer. you got this man.
 
Last night was The Last Unicorn. First time. Pretty trippy movie. Didn’t feel like it was for kids. 5/8

SS&S night 6:

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^^^ Based on interviews I’ve heard, including a recent, lengthy one with Conan O’Brien, I have surmised that there’s not a whole lot of difference between Ian Malcolm and Jeff Goldblum, at least personality-wise.
 
^^^ Based on interviews I’ve heard, including a recent, lengthy one with Conan O’Brien, I have surmised that there’s not a whole lot of difference between Ian Malcolm and Jeff Goldblum, at least personality-wise.
 
The cinematography is Joker is top tier but the movie has a lot of failed potential. The bombing of the courtroom should have been in the first 30 min and the movie should taken place from there. It's almost this joker was a 🖕🏾 to joker fans instead of touting him as some revolutionary figure they showed him for what he was a delusional, broken mentally ill man.

Todd Phillips basically suggested as much, he didn't want to do a sequel, this film was an FU to WB.

He was trying too much to incorporate many musicals and also to basically tell the folks who tried to put the character on a pedestal that he was never that in the first place just a weak man. That bathroom scene was totally unnecessary as well.
 
I kind of liked Joker 2 for that reason tho.

Now, certainly it wasn't a "perfect" film or anything like that, I clearly loved the first one much much more, but I did like the closure/follow up of this one from the sense of he was telling us the whole time that nobody would even look at him on the street, or care about him as they walked by, but when he became Joker, when he was Joker, they worshipped and adored him, when really, he was just a regular sick man. They all wanted him to do what they couldn't.

I admit, I was kind of guilty myself, I wanted to see him and Harley go out and just WREAK HAVOC on Gotham, but why? Why do I want that? Why am I rooting for that? Similar to Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, everyone was eagerly waiting what was going to happen to Sharon Tate, and QT zigged where we expected zagged. What did that say about us that we were all eagerly awaiting seeing how he was going to have her murder filmed?

This Joker was the same, imo. It had some wonderfully shot scenes, and some beautiful moments here and there, but I'm not sure if that's what we all wanted, fair or not. I assume everyone wanted to see Joker brutality rather than Joker mentality.

And I know some didn't like the close, I actually did like it. It makes sense in going with the nobody knows the true origin of who or where The Joker came from, doing what they did there would certainly keep audiences guessing as to current identity, similar to The Following, and how the killer(s) kept changing from episode to episode and you couldn't keep track of the network of homicidal maniacs following the good Dr.
 
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