Official Warriors Off Season Thread

[daprescription]

So uhm... back to the lottery. Only 3 more weeks until we officially get the #1 spot

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[acidicality]

Originally Posted by daprescription

So uhm... back to the lottery. Only 3 more weeks until we officially get the #1 spot

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\/i believe early july? or late june...

 

[vietsta4o8]

when is nelson gonna let us know if hes going to come back or not?

 

[GreenNGold89]

So what's been going on in this thread? My head has completely turned to baseball now

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[mjdalegend]

Originally Posted by vietsta4o8

when is nelson gonna let us know if hes going to come back or not?

early July.

Speaking before the Warriors' final game of the season Wednesday night, Nelson said he would go to Maui until the beginning of June and think about what he wants to do next season. Nelson said he expects to let the team know his decision by about July 1.

"I'm getting up to the point where it's not an easy job," the 67-year-old Nelson said, adding that he doesn't see himself coaching past next season no matter what he chooses to do.

He wants to wait to make his decision until after his arbitration hearing with the Dallas Mavericks scheduled for late June. Nelson filed the claim against Dallas owner Mark Cuban to get $6.5 million of deferred compensation, which Nelson said he is owed for his time with the Mavericks from 1997-2005.

 

[paul is on tilt]

I can't wait for the lottery. Warriors getting the #1 pick

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[acidicality]

All aboard the Derrick Rose bandwagon

 

[paul is on tilt]

 

[TheGodFresco]

JaVale McGee

 

[acidicality]

nbadraft.net has us getting joe alexander and devon hardin

don't think alexander is declaring tho-but maybe he is?

 

[enlightened thought]

guys don't be selfish. #1 pick...hah!

i'll be fine with the 2nd. it is a two player draft...can't go wrong with either player.

EDIT: that JaVale McGee kid looks sick.

 

[mjdalegend]

[h2]Should the Warriors fire Don Nelson and go after Mike D'Antoni RIGHT NOW?[/h2]
By Tim Kawakami
Wednesday, April 30th, 2008 at 12:14 pm in NBA, Warriors.

12:36 p.m. update: Mavs have officially fired Avery Johnson. I like Avery and I've supported him in the past, but I just don't see him fitting the Warriors as well as D'Antoni would. Maybe it's that first-round memory, looming too large. Avery will get another job whenever he wants, but I wouldn't repeat history by firing Nellie to get him here.

First warning: I have not run this idea past anybody with the Warriors, have never discussed anything like this with anybody even remotely associated with the Warriors, and really don't believe this could come close to happening.

It's a darn irresponsible idea… if it wasn't so devishly logical, I must say.

As I hinted yesterday (was it only yesterday?), it might be time for the Warriors to get pro-active about their next coach. I'm all for pro-activity, as you know.

-Don Nelson obviously is, at best, a short-timer, and maybe a no-timer, depending on Don's decision whether to come back for his guaranteed $5.1M next season.

-If he comes back, the moment he sets foot on the floor for the Warriors' first practice session of 2008-2009, he's a lame-duck coach.

You think Baron Davis and Stephen Jackson might've tuned him out a bit in March? What about next February and March? Do the Warriors have to hold off on major personnel decisions this summer because they don't know if Don will be back?

Even if Don comes back-and we're all assuming he will want to, with $5.1M sitting on the table-it's likely that this would be the last season for the lion, and if everybody knows it, that often is a recipe for anarchy in the locker room.

-Can the Warriors sit back and wait until Nellie tells them whether he's coming back (July 1 or later-knowing Don, it'll be later)… if a potential perfect candidate becomes available NOW?

-That'd be Phoenix's Mike D'Antoni, who may or may not resign or be fired or just get teleported to Chicago, Dallas, New York or Toronto in the next few days or weeks.

-Would D'Antoni want to leave the Suns (I think that's the most likely exit-he'll get an offer from someone else, Suns GM Steve Kerr will say: See ya) or bypass other offers for the Warriors?

I think that's possible. The Warriors are attractive for a lot of reasons, possibly No. 1 because I'd say Chris Mullin and D'Antoni would be very compatible and the personnel is already more compatible than anywhere else with the possible exception of Chicago.

-The Warriors should want D'Antoni-whether it's now or later, he's the ideal post-Nellie candidate: Plays fast, personable, creative, just the kind of coach Mullin would've wanted as a player.

If Mullin doesn't have another ideal candidate in the back of his mind (for July if Nellie walks away or for later if Nellie starts the season), would he be happy letting D'Antoni land in Dallas? Or Chicago or Toronto?

-It's possible D'Antoni either stays in Phoenix (but will be on shaky ground from Day 1 of next season) or he quits and takes some time off.

Then D'Antoni be the DOUBLE-IDEAL Warriors candidate, because the Warriors could bring Nelson back and still have D'Antoni waiting on the back-burner.

So why would the Warriors risk losing D'Antoni if he's the perfect next coach?

I can tell you why:

* Chris Cohan would have to eat $5.1M-'cause there's no way Nellie's taking a dollar less than his guarantee-only a few months after exercising the option clause for next season, without Nellie ever coming close to working a day of the season.

That's a lot to ask-yet that's precisely how NBA ownership shows fans commitment: There's a salary cap, so you can only pay players so much and it's not proven that paying over the cap is a road to success; there is no cap for coaches, so if you've got a shot at a long-term solution and you don't do it for money reasons… there's your potential lack of commitment.

Again, $5.1M for nothing is a lot to ask of Cohan. He'd have to pay that, he has the $10.1M he has already paid Nelson for two seasons to get one playoff team.

Then there's the money he'd have to pay D'Antoni, probably another $5M a year for five years.

Lots of money. Not my money. But there it is. (The Warriors are free of the Mike Montgomery contract this summer, so there's an extra $2.5M lying around Cohan's wallet/2008-2009 pay schedule these days.)

* Nelson is owed respect from the Warriors. I don't question that. He resurrected this team after 12 horrendous seasons. He did OK this last season, too.

In a perfect world, Don Nelson has earned the right to dictate his end date as Warriors coach, as Mullin suggested a few weeks ago. However…

-Don's the one who stuck it to the Warriors management last summer, holding out for more money.

Nellie lost a lot of moral high ground by pulling that stunt-you put your career on the line as a negotiating stunt, it's hard to say the Warriors can't manipulate the situation when they've got a chance.

Last summer's hold-out paid off for him, but there's no reason to weep for him or accomodate after it.

-He'd get $5.1M for nothing if the Warriors fired him. That'd be over $15M total for two seasons of work-not bad. Can fund a lot of poker games with that kind of cash.

-He might realize that he has gone about as far as he's going to get with BD and this roster. Mullin might've realized it, too.

And, if Davis sticks around next season, who knows where his head's going to be and if Nellie can come close to controlling him?

If this season is a semi-re-start… would you want to do it with Baron and Nellie, with only one of them around or with neither of them around?

-This team is going towards Monta Ellis, Brandan Wright, Andris Biedrins… and that might work for Don, but it might not.

I guarantee you, if the Warriors move Baron this summer and Don is the coach next year, Don will complain about it, even if he's privately concerned about Baron (which I don't know for sure).

So there. It's a lot to ask. It's a big irresponsible idea, but also one that has me thinking…

I'm sure the Guy in Maui right now won't be pleased with me-or maybe he will love this idea: Take Cohan for another free $5.1M, with a hearing to see if he gets $6M from Cuban? What could be better for the Kahuna than that?

 

[vietsta4o8]

i hate dantoni, but i guess his style of coaching would fit with the warriors

 

[supersaiyan415]

so i was playing a ranked match with the warriors on 2k8. next thing u know i find mccants, telfair, madsen, and ratliff on the roster. is there something idont know about?

 

[TheGodFresco]

Originally Posted by SuperSaiyan415

so i was playing a ranked match with the warriors on 2k8. next thing u know i find mccants, telfair, madsen, and ratliff on the roster. is there something i dont know about?

really?

I havent played online in a while, but i might tonight tocheck that out. Was it on PS3 or 360?

 

[gsom]

dantoni + warriors =

 

[paul is on tilt]

D'Antoni? Uhh... I think I'd rather have the start of the Smart Era rather than take in a guy who goes from small to smaller, plays only 7 players, anddoesn't stress defense... We already have that in Nellie

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[acidicality]

D'Antoni is not the solution. Neither is Avery, IMO....I like either Smart or Silas if we were to make a change or if Nellie retires

and i guess this thread is gonna stay quiet until the draft lottery

 

[paul is on tilt]

Reports are out that Camby is on the trading block... I say the Warriors get him, but don't give up waaayyyy too much for him. Get it done Mullin!!!

Will Camby be traded?
Friday, May 2 at 1:50 AM

Rumors swirled last summer that Nuggets center Marcus Camby could be traded.
I didn't think there was a chance it would happen, and it didn't.

But I'm not so sure this offseason.

A source close to the situation called Camby the most likely of Denver's five big-salaried players (Allen Iverson, Carmelo Anthony, Kenyon Martin and Nene being the others) to be traded. Sure, the Nuggets would rather deal Martin or Nene than Camby, but many consider them untradeable.

Think of Camby as a stock. He was at an all-time high a year ago after having won Defensive Player of the Year. He averaged 11.2 points, 11.7 rebounds and a league-high 3.30 blocks

Now think of Camby as a stock that could be leveling off. He was second in Defensive Player of the Year voting. He upped his rebounding to 13.1 and blocks to 3.61, and his scoring dropped to 9.1

But where Camby really fell off was in the playoffs. He averaged a troubling 3.3 points while shooting 5-of-21, although he did average 13.3 rebounds.

Was Camby worn down after playing in a career-high 79 games? Perhaps.

Nevertheless, the Nuggets have to project whether Camby, 34, might be starting to slide. Because he now has a good bit of trade value.

Camby, who has two years left on his contract, could help the Nuggets clear some money off their bloated payroll. And he could bring back a package of solid young prospects and/or draft choices.

Camby would have value to a team believing it needs a big man to a take a big step in the playoffs. And his contract is reasonable.

Camby has a base salary of $8 million next season, with possible incentives that could reach $3.79 million. In 2009-10, he has a base salary of $7.65 million and incentives that could reach $3.725 million.

Among his incentives each season are $500,000 total if he plays in 50-54 games, $1 million total for 55-59, $1.5 million total for 60-64 and $2 million total for 65 or over. In the first four years of that contract, the once injury-prone Camby has earned $7 million of a possible $8 million in bonuses for games played.

Camby's contract has been a bit of a Catch-22 for the Nuggets. Obviously, they've wanted him to play in as many games as possible, figuring that means more wins. Still, it can make it interesting for payroll planning considering the Nuggets are deep into the luxury tax.

At least Camby didn't put as much of a dent in the payroll this season as had been at one time projected. Camby last season earned $3.25 million for total incentives, $2 million for games and $1.25 million for statistical bonuses that only kick in if he averages 10 or more points.

Due to averaging less than 10 this season, the only bonuses he got on top of his $8 million base salary were $2 million for games played. That's still a $4 additional hit for the Nuggets when one considers the dollar-for-dollar luxury tax. But at least the Nuggets didn't take a $6.5 million hit due to Camby's bonuses ($3.25 million doubled).

We'll see this summer what might happen to Camby. It's no secret he hasn't always been pleased with his limited role in the offense, but he's done a good job hiding his displeasure, with the exception of an offhanded comment every now and then.

It definitely would be a risk to trade Camby since the Nuggets would then need a starting center. Nene is a candidate, but his health issues are always a concern.

But it's not out of the question Camby could be dealt. Stay tuned.


http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/nuggets/archives/2008/05/will_camby_be_t.html

BTW, I know it was posted in the "NBA Offseason thead" but it pertains to the Warriors somewhat (because we need his presence).

 

[mjdalegend]

The Nuggets want to trim down payroll, we have decent pieces to offer (POB, Pietrus, AI) + draft picks to offer at our disposal.

We need an upgrade, this is a GREAT chance.

Do it Mullin!

 

[supersaiyan415]

Originally Posted by GSDOUBLEU

Originally Posted by SuperSaiyan415

so i was playing a ranked match with the warriors on 2k8. next thing u know i find mccants, telfair, madsen, and ratliff on the roster. is there something i dont know about?

really?

I havent played online in a while, but i might tonight to check that out. Was it on PS3 or 360?

its fixed now. i was like the hell is this? baron davis was in the starting lineup but as a PF. smh.

 

[acidicality]

Do it Mullin!

. Al+Pietrus+POB or somethin of that sort would be fine with me...

 

[TheGodFresco]

Camby would be nice

 

[daprescription]

Overrated defender. How can we trade O'Bryant and Pietrus when they are unrestricted fas? not happened.

 

[andrew630]

Camby isn't the dominant space we need. We got players like Camby in Wright and Biedrins, just no mid-range jumper...

I read in some Tim K. article that he believes Baron will be traded to the Clips...