Official Warriors Off Season Thread

[gsdub4life]

Limited Salary Protection: C.J. Watson(no salary protection if waived on or before 7/25/08, thereafter will increase to $100,000) -- from espn.com

 

[supafly122]

What happened to marcus camby?? what would we have to do in order to get both Camby and Smith??

a lineup of ....
Ellis
Jax
Smith
Beans
Camby
..............would be great

 

[livemyreality]

Having Biedrins as a PF is not great. He will foul out faster than Pietrus fouls out.

 

[daddychill]

^that would be one really skinny line up, skinnier if it isn't already.

 

[sohi 23]

If you can pull out Brand then F everything I said

Monta
SJax(he can play the 2)
Wright
Brand
Biedrins

Bench:
Randolph
Bellineli
Harrington
Hendrix

That team can make the playoffs.
Also, you allow Randolph and Marco around 20-25 mins. a game
Sounds good to me

 

[not a sneak]

I honestly don't think you guys should sign Brand or Smith. You guys need to stop going after tweeners.

Look for a PG of the future and develop Wright, Randolph, and Marco. If you can't find the PG of the future then develop Monta's PG skills.

Does Al's Contract expire next summer(summer of 2009)? Maybe look to trade for Chauncey, he is the first to go on the Pistons with Joe loving Stuckey.Al+Pietrus+2010(maybe add in POB or Croshere) first rounder should be enough for Piston to let him go. Chauncey would be a GREAT fit in the system, he can run,he brings veteran leadership, and championship experience. He also lets Monta and Sjax to slide back to their more natural positions.

Starters:
Chauncey
Monta
Sjax
Wright
Beans

Bench:
Marco
Randolph
Azubieke(sp)
i know there are others but I can't remember right now.

Neither Brand nor Smith is the answer to pushing you guys to the next level. They both create more problems, stunt the growth of Wright with Brand. Smith movesSjax and Monta out of position.

 

[nothingtol0se]

whats with the increasing talk about brand? Did we offer him a contract or something? i'll assume so, since the thread jumped a lot of pages...but cansomeone fill me in? i just got home.

thanks in advance

 

[offbad]

yep, warriors offer brand a rumored max contract of 5yrs/90-100 mil

***edit***

[h1]Warriors make offer to Elton Brand[/h1]
Golden State reportedly offers the free-agent forward a larger deal than the Clippers, who have reached agreement with Baron Davis.
By Jonathan Abrams
Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

July 3, 2008

Suddenly and swiftly, the question out of Clipperland on Wednesday became: What will Elton Brand do?

In awhirlwind that amounted to "who has the salary cap space now?", the Golden State Warriors reached deep down the coastline and even deeper into their pocketbooks, offering free-agent forward Brand a five-year, $90-million contract, according to multiple NBA sources who requested anonymity because they are not authorized to speak publicly about player movements.

The offer came after the Clippers expected to reach an agreement with Brand, 29, as soon as Wednesday for a five-year, $70-million contract, the most the team could offer under salary cap considerations and still sign free-agent guard Baron Davis, whom the team had come to a verbal agreement with Tuesday, according to the sources.

No deal can be announced until July 9 and next year's salary cap, expected to be around $58 million, is set in stone. Also, teams are not permitted to speak on the specific status of free agents until that date.

The Philadelphia 76ers, one of the remaining teams with significant space under the expected cap, are also expected to enter the bidding for Brand's services, creating a potential bidding war for the All-Star forward.

"This is the NBA," Clippers President Andy Roeser said Wednesday. "It's very fluid and anything can happen, but we're confident it's all going to work out for us at the end of the moratorium."

Brand departed for Washington on Wednesday to meet with his agent David Falk, according to the sources. Both he and Falk could not be reached for comment.

As Brand flew, the Clippers spent much of the afternoon on the phone with Falk, according to the sources.

Only a day earlier, the club pulled off arguably its biggest free-agent coup in the franchise's history by landing Davis. Todd Ramasar, Davis' agent, said Tuesday that Davis verbally agreed with the Clippers, in part, because of the lure and likelihood of playing alongside Brand.

Brand and forward Corey Maggette, who for years have been the faces of the franchise, opted out of the final season of their contracts Monday, choosing to test free agency.

Entering his 10th NBA season, Brand has averaged 20.3 points and 10.2 rebounds a year. He missed all but eight games last season while recovering from a ruptured Achilles' tendon and was due $16.4 million next season had he stayed under the final year of his contract.

He is well received and respected within the organization, not only in the way he trains and dedicates himself to the game, but also in how he handles himself off the court.

But the latest developments in their attempts to reach a deal with him on a contract have left some confused, according to the sources.

When reached by phone Monday shortly after choosing to become a free agent, he referred to the Clippers as "we" and said that he would like the Clippers to land a player "solid at the point guard spot," before he would agree to re-sign with the Clippers.

At that time Falk said that Brand's decision to opt out had partly been made to allow the Clippers breathing space under the salary cap to sign an impact free agent.

That day, the possibility of the Clippers losing both Brand and Maggette reflected a dreary day for an organization that has seen more than its share of them.

The next, highlighted by the agreement with Davis, who had appeared to fill the requisite of a solid point guard, reflected unbridled enthusiasm that had rarely been seen in the Clippers' past.

Wednesday?

Déjà vu day.

If Brand departs the Clippers, they would again have enough salary cap space to re-sign Maggette, who was their leading scorer last season was due to make $7 million next season. Maggette, however, is also an attractive free agent and is being wooed by the Boston Celtics, Cleveland Cavaliers and San Antonio Spurs.

The Clippers could also begin targeting Atlanta Hawks' restricted free-agent forward Josh Smith, who visited the 76ers on Wednesday.

Ramasar could not be reached Wednesday to be asked how Brand's situation potentially affects Davis' verbal agreement with the Clippers.

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[patrickcakes]

Warriors OfferBrand Huge Contract

 

[eagle 0n]

I thought Brand would make decision by now. Makes me think that he's seriously considering the W's deal.

Monta/Watson
Buike/Bellinelli
SJax/Randolph
Brand/Wright
Biedrins/Kosta

...
An Elton Brand,Wright,AB frontline wouldn't work IMO. All three of those players would be clogging up the paint and Wrights offensive game is more at the4. Watching clips of Randolph he looks better off at the 3 position right now.

We'd then have to fill out the roster by trading Harrington and hopefully S&T Pietrus.

at somebody calling Brand a tweener

 

[franchise3]

Brand is just holding out to see if the Clippers up their deal.

I don't really like the idea of Brand.

That's a lot of money locked up into one player.

The nucleus is set with Ellis, Benelli, Randolph, Wright, Biedrins.

This very well might be the starting 5 in the future.

You add a guy like Brand to put your team over the top, to contend.

Not after you lose the best player on your team, especially the most important position.

Just roll with the youngsters and let them develop.

If you want to break the bank, go after another young talent like Smith. Or AI2.

Or get a cheaper piece like a Ben Gordon, Luol Deng.

 

[franchise 55]

The Clippers can't up their deal, right? 70 is the most they can offer since they signed Baron. At least that's how I understood it.

 

[paul is on tilt]

Nah, the Clips can up their deal... but it'll count toward the cap. Not sure if the Clips are willing to pay the penalty. Not sure who their owner is, butthat guy is cheap and doesn't want to exceed the cap too.

*edit*
Oh ok, nevermind

. Their owner is Donald T. Sterling.

 

[kingjrmzair23]

Originally Posted by franchise3

Brand is just holding out to see if the Clippers up their deal.

I don't really like the idea of Brand.

That's a lot of money locked up into one player.

The nucleus is set with Ellis, Benelli, Randolph, Wright, Biedrins.

This very well might be the starting 5 in the future.

You add a guy like Brand to put your team over the top, to contend.

Not after you lose the best player on your team, especially the most important position.

Just roll with the youngsters and let them develop.

If you want to break the bank, go after another young talent like Smith. Or AI2.

Or get a cheaper piece like a Ben Gordon, Luol Deng.

 

[not a sneak]

at somebody calling Brand a tweener

He is like 6'8", come one now.

 

[franchise3]

You're right, my bad.

I guess $70M is the most they can offer him without going over the cap.

Pretty much the most, because let's be real. Sterling won't go over.

He'll just renounce Brand if he leaves, and set his sights on Magette probably.

 

[paul is on tilt]

Originally Posted by Not a sneak

at somebody calling Brand a tweener

He is like 6'8", come one now.

Brand isn't a "tweener"

. Brand isn't an SF. He's a PF... make no mistake about it.

 

[livemyreality]

Sterling wouldn't want anything to do with going over the luxury tax. I believe Brand is thinking it through, but for some odd reason I think he may headback to the Clippers. But I believe the W's have a better team than the Clippers. We'll just have to wait and see.

And regarding Hinrich's contract, his pay decreases over the years. I wouldn't mind him still.

 

[mississippi bullet]

I guess a new name is justified for the beginning of the Monta Era.

 

[paul is on tilt]

^ GSDOUBLEU? That you?

 

[franchise 55]

Originally Posted by Not a sneak

at somebody calling Brand a tweener

He is like 6'8", come one now.

Have you seen the guy play? He is not a tweener. So since Barkley was like 6'5" does that make him a shooting guard? You can't base everythingon height.

 

[mississippi bullet]

Naw, keep guessing.

 

[patrickcakes]

Originally Posted by Mississippi Bullet

Naw, keep guessing.

dp? Banned from yesterday's sig?

 

[franchise3]

Originally Posted by Mississippi Bullet

Naw, keep guessing.

The dude who made the wikipedia edit?

Somebody do the math.

If Brand accepts this $90M deal, how much does that leave the Warriors to resign Biedrins and Ellis?

 

[paul is on tilt]

Are you Andrew630? If I'm not mistaken, you were talking about another username

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