Very true but what string had was vision and I know dudes not gonna agree with his actions but a lot of what String said or did none of them cats would really understand. That corner mentality was where that vision ended for majority of these characters.
Exactly, and I'm not knocking him for that. But he should have separated the two and got out entirely. Avon never wanted to get out, that was Stringer's dream. Leave instead of bringing you AND your boy down. That's where I am coming from.
By the time String realized this it was a bit too late, Davis took his money and he was left high and dry and he saw Avon was going to see his war with Marlo to the bitter end.
So in his mind, I assume his plan was to get Avon put away for a while again, regain his money from dealing and then get out. Davis was a huge setback for String. He wanted his millions back (or however much money it was I forget) so he couldn't just leave the game just like that.
He should've came to that leave on your own realization when Avon got back out like before they had problems with Omar and killed his lover
But that messes up with the story too much.
I stand by String's biggest mistake being telling Avon the truth about D. He should've NEVER done that. Character wise it almost makes no sense that he did. Oh how I wish I could've seen how S3 would've went down differently if Avon didn't have that truth in his mind when Mouzzone and Omar pressed him. The whole thing would've been different.
Stringer was a **** boy. End of story.
Nothing about having a ***** killed when he wasn't gonna snitch any way, is a business move.
Sleeping with said dude's shorty after the fact, is not a business move.
I'll give you all the **** he finessed behind Avon's back, but that was still some sucker **** with the way he went about it. There was no need to involve Prop Joe, Brother Mouzone, ect in he and Avon's *******t. I understand that Avon was hardheaded, but with how smart and savvy we consider this man, he could've handled that whole situation differently. That's why I couldn't be mad at Avon for giving him up because String did all that foul **** and the chickens were coming home to roost.
Son get the **** out of here.
D WAS A SNITCH. Son was gonna snitch and take everybody with him. He was one of the biggest ***** boys on the show. You saw how weak he was in prison. Son was on some philosophical bull ****, trying to be a good man and ****. Avon should've been stomped his *** out. That's why Avon was dumb. He should've manned up and pulled a Corleone himself but nah he too soft for that. Imagine if it was Robert Duvall's character in The Godfather that had to make all the G decisions cuz Michael was to stubborn
That aint how it's suppose to be.
I wish I could find my post when I first watched S1 of The Wire and posted my reactions. I recall saying the show shouldn't have been called The Wire but The Snitches. Whole damn show was filled with snitches and dudes who can betray their boys at the drop of the hat. Mind you this was my first reaction to what I was expecting to be a hood show and I'm very familiar with my regions view on snitching. So to see The Wire and the amount snitching it had caught me so off guard
******* D's baby moms wasn't a business move. String just wanted to **** her. **** D's ***** ***. That don't got nothing to do with anything AT ALL. **** D, ***** *** *****.
As for what led to String's downfall, they already tried to get Omar on their own. **** aint work. Omar was like a cockroach to the whole Barksdale operation. I think they tried twice to kill him. String aint know Mouzzone the way Avon did but he saw him as a hired gun which he is and he had no close ties to him so why not send him to try and kill Omar off a lie or better yet get both of them killed? Maybe NY sends somebody better down this time. Involving Prop Joe was just natural due to him ending the turf wars **** in favor for his Bmore commission. It aint String's fault Prop Joe died. He had a treacherous family member.
@ the Stringer disrespect
Zik & I pretty much deaded this in a Wire thread a while back, not sure if it's this one.
I'm pretty sure it was this thread
Dudes get too strongly attached based off emotions. That's the problem and I understand the hate towards String but if you think this out logically and with a level head you can't play any of that Avon was better than String in any category.
Stringer snitched, Avon didn't.
Avon even tried to fix it for String.
Stringer was by far the most foul cat in the entire series.
Not to mention a flat out sucker,boy ran downtown trying to pretend he was someone else and got his dumb *** hustled.
You can never justify ratting your mans out let alone the dude that makes a way for everybody to eat.
Stringer is a scoundrel.
Why you acting like snitching to put ya boy away for his own good is worse than giving up ya man's to assassins that want him dead?
What world are we living in?!!!
That is BETRAYAL of the highest order.
What is this nonsense about the man that makes a way for everybody to eat? **** was falling apart all around Avon. He was losing that war. Nobody was eating.
I wouldn't mind all of the Stringer hate if yall would at least be completely honest about how Avon was ******* up left and right towards the end.
I mean think for a sec, imagine if String would've survived Omar and Mouzzone or managed to kill them. If he put two and two together he would've been all the way in the right to get Avon murked in the library prison.
Stringer violated the code of the game. Avon had no choice but to give him up because no outside contract killers would've ****** with him if brother mouzone put a target on his back.
Stringer dug his own grave and that ***** had a written testimony on Avon
-have Dee killed
-lie about a killing you ordered so Omar would go after Mouzone because you don't like the moves Avon was making
-get punked outta territory
-snitch on Avon as an insurance policy
Avon did the right thing. He knew he couldn't trust stringer anymore. Being out the game was more important than anybody and anything
Half of this **** Avon aint even know about though
String didn't get punked out of territory. The towers got torn down. That was their HQ. Only thing left was corners. By the time Marlo started being a bully Avon was already out.
Avon had no clue about String's insurance policy. Avon would've got over String making a few decisions on his own. Son was basically running the op by himself as good as before so you at least know he's not aiming to **** things up on purpose.
The major **** up on String's part was the whole set up with Omar and Mouzzone and that was basically cuz he aint have the necessary respect for Mouzzone he should of had. And I still believe had Avon not knew the truth about D he'd have tried to negotiate or give up the connect to NYC and stick with Prop Joe's connect with the Greek.
I mean damn man Avon hated Omar the most, called him cocksucker with hatred and calmly gave dude String's location.