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I think they actually give in their votes later. They're counted and revealed now to what they're supposed to be, but I believe an elector can later just say **** it and vote how they like.
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EddieDoyers
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I don't like that idea at all
Last thing I want is rogue state electors that don't abide by what the people in the state chose
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Of course its a dangerous precedent to set, but Trump is a dangerous man. I'm 50/50 on it right now.
Mr Dink
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That's why I say all the time our votes don't count and the electoral college is bull ****.
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Electors are required to vote with the popular vote in their state. However, there's no federal law requiring this and electors can choose to change their vote and pay a fine.
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mad men era b, when men were men, and cars were loud and fast.
Trump is instant testosterone, Blue collar fueled gold plated, rough & tumble barron who's captured that "Murica" spirit.
folks here CONSTANTLY had a blind spot for it by only seeing things from a racial lense.
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It only counts if you live in swing states
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Cars are loud and fast now. In fact they're faster now while being more fuel efficient.
EddieDoyers
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Dude stop
The purpose of the electoral college was for the federal government to pay attention to states that may be smaller in size
Your vote did count and it didn't go the way you wanted it to
It sucks but that's life
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These next 4 years are going to be the best freakin' 4 years of my life 
God Bless the United States of America!
God Bless the United States of America!
EddieDoyers
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What tax bracket are you in?These next 4 years are going to be the best freakin' 4 years of my life
God Bless the United States of America!
I know my family will flourish.
Can't say the same for the country.
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- OCTOBER 31, 2016 -
DONALD J. TRUMP’S NEW DEAL FOR BLACK AMERICA
WITH A PLAN FOR URBAN RENEWAL
Nobody needs to tell African-Americans in this country that the old new deal from the Democratic Party isn’t working for them. In election after election, Democratic party leaders take African-American voters for granted and year after year the condition of Black America gets worse. The conditions in our inner cities today are unacceptable. Too many African-Americans have been left behind.
African-Americans need a new deal from their next president. Donald Trump is proposing just that. The following are ten promises announced by Donald Trump on October 26, 2016 in Charlotte, NC that will define a new deal for Black America:
1. Great Education Through School Choice. We will allow every disadvantaged child in America to attend the public, private, charter, magnet, religious or home school of their choice. School choice is the great civil rights issue of our time, and Donald Trump will be the nation’s biggest cheerleader for school choice in all 50 states. We will also ensure funding for Historic Black Colleges and Universities, more affordable 2 and 4-year college, and support for trade and vocational education.
2. Safe Communities. We will make our communities safe again. Every poor African-American child must be able to walk down the street in peace. Safety is a civil right. We will invest in training and funding both local and federal law enforcement operations to remove the gang members, drug dealers, and criminal cartels from our neighborhoods. The reduction of crime is not merely a goal – but a necessity.
3. Equal Justice Under the Law. We will apply the law fairly, equally and without prejudice. There will be only one set of rules – not a two-tiered system of justice. Equal justice also means the same rules for Wall Street.
4. Tax Reforms to Create Jobs and Lift up People and Communities. We will lower the business tax from 35 percent to 15 percent and bring thousands of new companies to our shores. We will also have a massive middle class tax cut, tax-free childcare savings accounts, and childcare tax deductions and credits. We will also have tax holidays for inner-city investment, and new tax incentives to get foreign companies to relocate in blighted American neighborhoods. We will empower cities and states to seek a federal disaster designation for blighted communities in order to initiate the rebuilding of vital infrastructure, the demolition of abandoned properties, and the increased presence of law enforcement.
5. Financial Reforms to Expand Credit to Support New Job Creation. We will have financial reforms to make it easier for young African-Americans to get credit to pursue their dreams in business and create jobs in their communities. Dodd-Frank has been a disaster, making it harder for small businesses to get the credit they need. The policies of the Clintons brought us the financial recession – through lifting Glass-Steagall, pushing subprime lending, and blocking reforms to Fannie and Freddie. It’s time for a 21stcentury Glass Steagall and, as part of that, a priority on helping African-American businesses get the credit they need. We will also encourage small-business creation by allowing social welfare workers to convert poverty assistance into repayable but forgive-able micro-loans.
6. Trade That Works for American Workers. We will stop the massive, chronic trade deficits that have emptied out our jobs. We won’t let our jobs be stolen from us anymore. We will stop the offshoring of companies to low-wage countries and raise wages at home – meaning rent and bills become instantly more affordable. We will tell executives that if they move their factories to Mexico or other countries, we will put a 35% tax on their product before they ship it back into the United States.
7. Protection from Illegal Immigration. We will restore the civil rights of African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, and all Americans, by ending illegal immigration. No group has been more economically harmed by decades of illegal immigration than low-income African-American workers. Hillary’s pledge to enact “open borders,” – made in secret to a foreign bank – would destroy the African-American middle class. We will reform visa rules to give American workers preference for jobs, and we will suspend reckless refugee admissions from terror-prone regions that cost taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars. We will use a portion of the money saved by enforcing our laws, and suspending refugees, to re-invested in our inner cities.
8. New Infrastructure Investment. We will leverage public-private partnerships, and private investments through tax incentives, to spur $1 trillion in infrastructure investment over 10 years, of which the inner cities will be a major beneficiary. We will cancel all wasteful climate change spending from Obama-Clinton, including all global warming payments to the United Nations. This will save $100 billion over 8 years. We will use these to help rebuild the vital infrastructure, including water systems, in America’s inner cities.
9. Protect the African-American Church. We will protect religious liberty, promote strong families, and support the African-American church.
10. America First Foreign Policy. We will stop trying to build Democracies overseas, wasting trillions, but focus on defeating terrorists and putting America first.
- OCTOBER 31, 2016 -
DONALD J. TRUMP’S NEW DEAL FOR BLACK AMERICA
WITH A PLAN FOR URBAN RENEWAL
Nobody needs to tell African-Americans in this country that the old new deal from the Democratic Party isn’t working for them. In election after election, Democratic party leaders take African-American voters for granted and year after year the condition of Black America gets worse. The conditions in our inner cities today are unacceptable. Too many African-Americans have been left behind.
African-Americans need a new deal from their next president. Donald Trump is proposing just that. The following are ten promises announced by Donald Trump on October 26, 2016 in Charlotte, NC that will define a new deal for Black America:
1. Great Education Through School Choice. We will allow every disadvantaged child in America to attend the public, private, charter, magnet, religious or home school of their choice. School choice is the great civil rights issue of our time, and Donald Trump will be the nation’s biggest cheerleader for school choice in all 50 states. We will also ensure funding for Historic Black Colleges and Universities, more affordable 2 and 4-year college, and support for trade and vocational education.
2. Safe Communities. We will make our communities safe again. Every poor African-American child must be able to walk down the street in peace. Safety is a civil right. We will invest in training and funding both local and federal law enforcement operations to remove the gang members, drug dealers, and criminal cartels from our neighborhoods. The reduction of crime is not merely a goal – but a necessity.
3. Equal Justice Under the Law. We will apply the law fairly, equally and without prejudice. There will be only one set of rules – not a two-tiered system of justice. Equal justice also means the same rules for Wall Street.
4. Tax Reforms to Create Jobs and Lift up People and Communities. We will lower the business tax from 35 percent to 15 percent and bring thousands of new companies to our shores. We will also have a massive middle class tax cut, tax-free childcare savings accounts, and childcare tax deductions and credits. We will also have tax holidays for inner-city investment, and new tax incentives to get foreign companies to relocate in blighted American neighborhoods. We will empower cities and states to seek a federal disaster designation for blighted communities in order to initiate the rebuilding of vital infrastructure, the demolition of abandoned properties, and the increased presence of law enforcement.
5. Financial Reforms to Expand Credit to Support New Job Creation. We will have financial reforms to make it easier for young African-Americans to get credit to pursue their dreams in business and create jobs in their communities. Dodd-Frank has been a disaster, making it harder for small businesses to get the credit they need. The policies of the Clintons brought us the financial recession – through lifting Glass-Steagall, pushing subprime lending, and blocking reforms to Fannie and Freddie. It’s time for a 21stcentury Glass Steagall and, as part of that, a priority on helping African-American businesses get the credit they need. We will also encourage small-business creation by allowing social welfare workers to convert poverty assistance into repayable but forgive-able micro-loans.
6. Trade That Works for American Workers. We will stop the massive, chronic trade deficits that have emptied out our jobs. We won’t let our jobs be stolen from us anymore. We will stop the offshoring of companies to low-wage countries and raise wages at home – meaning rent and bills become instantly more affordable. We will tell executives that if they move their factories to Mexico or other countries, we will put a 35% tax on their product before they ship it back into the United States.
7. Protection from Illegal Immigration. We will restore the civil rights of African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, and all Americans, by ending illegal immigration. No group has been more economically harmed by decades of illegal immigration than low-income African-American workers. Hillary’s pledge to enact “open borders,” – made in secret to a foreign bank – would destroy the African-American middle class. We will reform visa rules to give American workers preference for jobs, and we will suspend reckless refugee admissions from terror-prone regions that cost taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars. We will use a portion of the money saved by enforcing our laws, and suspending refugees, to re-invested in our inner cities.
8. New Infrastructure Investment. We will leverage public-private partnerships, and private investments through tax incentives, to spur $1 trillion in infrastructure investment over 10 years, of which the inner cities will be a major beneficiary. We will cancel all wasteful climate change spending from Obama-Clinton, including all global warming payments to the United Nations. This will save $100 billion over 8 years. We will use these to help rebuild the vital infrastructure, including water systems, in America’s inner cities.
9. Protect the African-American Church. We will protect religious liberty, promote strong families, and support the African-American church.
10. America First Foreign Policy. We will stop trying to build Democracies overseas, wasting trillions, but focus on defeating terrorists and putting America first.
everysingletime
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What tax bracket are you in?These next 4 years are going to be the best freakin' 4 years of my life
God Bless the United States of America!
I know my family will flourish.
Can't say the same for the country.
Damn it son. You keep talking like California is its own country or something.
EddieDoyers
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I wasn't referring to my stateWhat tax bracket are you in?These next 4 years are going to be the best freakin' 4 years of my life
God Bless the United States of America!
I know my family will flourish.
Can't say the same for the country.
Damn it son. You keep talking like California is its own country or something.
I was referring to my family's current income situation
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Hillary would've made those cars go away by upholding da cafe mandates of 54.5 MPG..
da leadership of Chrysler said V8's would've been as rare as white flies.
i breathe a sigh a relief everyday she lost
everysingletime
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Damn son you really sold your soul for big engines
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Damn son you really sold your soul for big engines
big engines are just da poster boy for overzealous regulations & taxes that ends up limiting freedom of da market...that oppressive big government approach was going to affect all walks of life.
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Bill Maher time!!
EddieDoyers
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Hillary would've made those cars go away by upholding da cafe mandates of 54.5 MPG..
da leadership of Chrysler said V8's would've been as rare as white flies.
i breathe a sigh a relief everyday she lost
so that was the big beef? Not the unsafe car structures that would have to achieve that type of mpg?
everysingletime
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My four banger with turbo is good enough for me. I'm not exactly a car guy, but I believe most cars aren't V8's anymore and still fast as hell. They are just slapping a turbo on everything.
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V8's.
Coal.
I sense a pattern of ninja just wanting to stay in the past lol
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Hillary would've made those cars go away by upholding da cafe mandates of 54.5 MPG..
da leadership of Chrysler said V8's would've been as rare as white flies.
i breathe a sigh a relief everyday she lost
Not the unsafe car structures that would have to achieve that type of mpg?
putting a price on carbon dioxide and taxing it as a scheme to pander to "climate zealots" in spite of economic growth concerns.
da bottomline is da government was telling brand they couldn't sell what da VAAAAAAAST majority of Americans preferred and they forced them to downsize & put out unpopular hybrids & EV's that were unprofitable and expensive to produce.
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Trumps cabinet is legit looking like the Suicide Squad :x
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Lol dudes would be homeless if da oppressive big govt let da market have its way. Humans are truly idiots.
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Everybody buckle up. This is gonna be crazy
