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Straight out of scene from Arrested Development.
You can make a drama, comedy, dramedy, cartoon,documentary, mockumentary, anything out of this 4 year ****show
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Straight out of scene from Arrested Development.
You can make a drama, comedy, dramedy, cartoon,documentary, mockumentary, anything out of this 4 year ****show
- Feb 3, 2012
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I don’t think Mitch will be willing to negotiate on direct subsidies but I think there will be tremendous pressure to protect coverage for preexisting conditions and free preventive care. Obviously we know abortion funding will be a hot button.
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This will depend on how many people dump their employer plans for the subsidized gold plan simply because they can.
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"you be aight, you tough right?" - MAMy supervisor is a Trump voter. Getting the other people in my unit to sign it.
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Cowboys fans: 3rd qtr “stop da count!”
- Sep 22, 2014
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Again, the right and left are built with different blocks of voters-why did downballot GOP members win seats in areas where Biden won?
The Dems should consider this strategically when running future candidates in these areas.
I’ll state my question again with further detail:
What do you think about Blue Dog Dems who helped get the votes in the Senate to pass the ACA? If you need 60+ votes to pass major legislation (I.e. M4A), WHERE exactly are you going to get these votes without the Senate seats? Genuinely interested in your opinion here since 2024 is a tough Senate map for Dems so the strategy needs to be developed now to contend with this-I’ll await your response.
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One version passed the House (that version had a national marketplace and public options), another version beat the filibuster (it included the cornhusker kickback, state marketplaces, no public option). Joe Libermann (who was no longer a member of the party because he became in Independent after he lost his primary for his Senate race in 2006) was basically was the main driver in writing the Senate version because he was the 60th vote. The bill passed 60-39.
Because the House and Senate bill was different that had to be reconciled. But in the interim, the Dems lost a Senate seat in MA. So the House passed the Senate bill with a couple of changes, and then the used reconciliation to pass the revised bill the House did.
You can only use budget reconciliation to amend bills for budgetary reasons that already passed by normal methods, so it was not subject to a filibuster. The ACA finally got through because a version of it had previously got 60 votes.
Things got taken out of the bill. Like the national marketplace, the public option. Every step of the way things got stripped out. So I dunno how a piece of legislation the Dems were pushing for years, had hearing on for months, compromised with centrist at every step of the way, was rushed.
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What were some of the flaws?
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No, it won't
M4A has no cost-sharing, Biden's does.
Plus Biden's plan is means-tested. M4A is not.
Even if everyone got a gold plan, M4A is still way more expensive.
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I find it astounding that people STILL don’t seem to understand this. The irony was that the GOP couldn’t even repeal/replace the ACA in part because of the reconciliation process limiting them as well.
I think one benefit of the legislative filibuster being removed is the ability to pass meaningful legislation but this would also allow the next GOP administration to actually build the wall, etc. so it’s a true double edged sword.
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Good thing about our democracy is that if the Dems don’t do right by the blacks (and Mexicans in AZ and NV) then in 2024 they won’t vote. Hell, if they don’t do right by them then I won’t even vote in 2024.
like Laker nation and LeBron, we don’t care what you did for us before you came here. Now that you’re here. Show us. Don’t talk about it.
like Laker nation and LeBron, we don’t care what you did for us before you came here. Now that you’re here. Show us. Don’t talk about it.
dacomeup
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He literally had to nearly lose his life due to the President’s brazen disregard for the virus, as Christie also participated in the superspreader event. **** Chris Christie.
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The GOP was one vote away from repealing the ACA. John McCain had a lucid moment and saved the day.
Sure there is a risk of dropping the filibuster, but all things considered, it is worth it. It is just that if the Dems do it, they need to pass legislation to unrig the system against them and democracy.
aepps20
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As much as I wish this was true, Lady G is just being a drama queen
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Yeah I think you’re right that eventually Dems will be forced into a corner with the filibuster in order to enact major policy. My issue with it is the GOP seems to be better able to hold the Senate so we could be looking at future GOP POTUS implementing far more of their agenda via legislation because of this (used the Wall as an example here). The flipside is that, if Dems pass policy that is as popular as the ACA is/was, it is unlikely that even those GOP administrations would repeal this kind of policy. That said, I would be concerned about the GOP gutting SS and Medicaid (through small reforms over time) with future policy under this strategy though.
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I really needed them to stop da count. As a Cowboys fan, I’ve accepted that my squad won’t win again this season. Should’ve signed......
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Oh ******* kill me now
Like I said before, the Dems path forward was actually passing policy and showing people they have their best interest at heart. Cause the fact Trump got credit for a policy the Dems pushed to make sure was in the CARES Act, and that in turn hurt the Dems, is ******* sad and hilarious at the same damn time.
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I know a lot has been said about the upcoming runoff elections in Georgia. And I've committed to do my part, including contributing to help the Dems flip the senate.
Not sure if posting such links is acceptable (if not, I will remove this) but here is the link to support Rev. Raphael Warnock in his efforts to flip the Senate.
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Not sure if posting such links is acceptable (if not, I will remove this) but here is the link to support Rev. Raphael Warnock in his efforts to flip the Senate.
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I know a lot has been said about the upcoming runoff elections in Georgia. And I've committed to do my part, including contributing to help the Dems flip the senate.
Not sure if posting such links is acceptable (if not, I will remove this) but here is the link to support Rev. Raphael Warnock in his efforts to flip the Senate.
Georgia Senate Race Raphael Warnock — Donate via ActBlue
Donate now to help keep Reverend Raphael Warnock in the Senate
Donate today to support Reverend Warnock
Brah
Mans is really committed to this babyface turn.
This is like when I was a kid watching wrestling and Red and Yellow Hulk Hogan came back, and acted like I was supposed to forget that bigen beard and all dem years he was yelling N.W.O.
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The building you have to walk through to cross the border from Matamoros to Brownville has a huge picture if him hanging in the hallway where you wait in line. Absolutely disgusting that those workers that cross every day have to be greeted by that 
aepps20
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Brah
Dude is the Lex Luther of this thread. He can't be trusted. I'm sure he will vote for Kelly and Perdue.
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