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White supremacists protected the white supremacist mother ship.

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Pelosi shouldn't have torn that speech up.

Just the look on her face and her body language screamed salty af. All she did was give that man power by overtly displaying how much he got to her.

In a different context it might have been cooler but that just looked weak af to me
The news are definitely not talking about what Trump had to say last night. She stole his thunder. I don't see how you see that as weak.
 
The news are definitely not talking about what Trump had to say last night. She stole his thunder. I don't see how you see that as weak.

Ok which "news" are you referring to, specifically?

I've seen reporting on everything that went down during the SOTU, from the speech tear to Limbaugh getting the same medal as Rosa Parks. The whole thing was a circus.
 
Looking like it’s gonna be that way.

the trump boys are gonna be MAD if he wins.
 
The thing is I do this in everyday life as it relates to criminal allegations.

Sure, deductions about available evidence is one thing.

But to accuse someone of supporting rape, child exploitation, and sex trafficking because they don’t come to the same conclusions as you about available evidence is ridiculous.

If I don’t agree that Roy Moore did what he’s accused of, based on the available evidence, then I support Roy Moore and child molestation? Surely you don’t agree with that reasoning.
So in any and all matters related to criminal conduct, the one and only source of information that you consider legitimate and upon which you base your opinions is the determination of a criminal court of law? Yeah... no. Again, even within this extremely limited scope, that's literally not even possible. If you are the victim of a crime and you see the person who committed said crime but that person has yet to be tried and convicted, are they innocent in your eyes? If an old crime comes to light after the statute of limitation has passed so the person cannot be tried for said crime but there is a video of them committing the act, are they innocent in your eyes?

As to your last question, based on your standard, you couldn't agree that you believe Roy Moore did what he's accused of unless he had been tried in a criminal court. Right? So the entire premise of your question is inapplicable. Right?

I can't believe I got sucked in. Kudos, dwalk :lol:
 
Trump acquitted and now he putting out feelers about staying in office longer than two terms. We not headed down a good path. This election just took on even more importance
 
So in any and all matters related to criminal conduct, the one and only source of information that you consider legitimate and upon which you base your opinions is the determination of a criminal court of law? Yeah... no. Again, even within this extremely limited scope, that's literally not even possible. If you are the victim of a crime and you see the person who committed said crime but that person has yet to be tried and convicted, are they innocent in your eyes? If an old crime comes to light after the statute of limitation has passed so the person cannot be tried for said crime but there is a video of them committing the act, are they innocent in your eyes?

As to your last question, based on your standard, you couldn't agree that you believe Roy Moore did what he's accused of unless he had been tried in a criminal court. Right? So the entire premise of your question is inapplicable. Right?

I can't believe I got sucked in. Kudos, dwalk :lol:

No, I’m not saying that at all.

Obviously, if I witness a crime then I don’t need any additional information.

The obvious (or at least I thought) caveat in my standard was for an alleged crime that I did not personally witness.

Absent a video, picture, etc. then no I would not generally take an accuser’s word for it. If you would, that’s fine.

That would be different if a family member/personal acquaintance made the accusation as I have a personal gauge of their credibility.

But no I wouldn’t blindly believe something happened merely because one, or multiple, people (that I don’t know) alleged it.

This is especially true when allegations are involving politicians and/or celebrities where it doesn’t take a genius to realize mixed-motives and agendas.

That doesn’t mean that the allegations aren’t true. But I think the innocent until proven guilty standard is a good one.

If you want to deem people guilty based on whatever your personal standard is, that’s fine. But that’s not what I choose to do.

The innocent until proven guilty standard allows me to avoid the bias of believing some accused based on my politics and disbelieving others for the same.

Ya kno. How others on here seem willing to do.

No one answered my question about Kobe, OJ, Michael Jackson or Justin Fairfax.
 
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