***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[RustyShackleford]

Who the **** likes McCain or is saying the 2008 GOP was not dangerous?

People are just saying Trump is worst, which he clearly is.

The prospect of McCain with a Dem Congress is way less scary that Trump with a GOP Congress.

All people are pointing out is the dynamics of 2008 race is different than 2016. That is all.

rexanglorum you really need to chill with this "liberals do this..." steez, especially when you follow it up with a strawman. You like to jump on anyone that dear paint Bernie supporters or leftist with a wide brush, yet quick to do the same to others.

 

[RustyShackleford]

I was wrong before about Iowa's important. It is way more important because the candidate that wins gets a mayor bump in coverage and is treated like the frontrunner in the media. Winning Iowa where huge for Kerry and Obama. So it is really important to win.

Monday could be ****show though. Everybody needs to be ready.

There is a possibility Bernie could win the popular vote in the Iowa, but Pete or Joe could with more delegates.

If this happens we know the screams of "it was rigged" are gonna break out, and the media will fan these flames.

And no one will mention that Bernie, when negotiating reforms with the DNC, is the one that pushed to keep caucuses in the Dem primary because he thought he gave him a better chance at winning.

 

[Belgium]

I think Bernie will win Iowa.

 

[RustyShackleford]

I think Bernie will win Iowa.

The thing is, he will probably get the most votes, but that doesn't guarantee he will win.

It is gonna be really close though

 

[RustyShackleford]

Why is this man a thing...

 

[dwalk31]

The thing is, he will probably get the most votes, but that doesn't guarantee he will win.

Which is going to be the problem

 

[niketalker23]

Which is going to be the problem

Like Hilary getting the most votes but not winning the election?

 

[RustyShackleford]

Caucuses are trash and need to go.

 

[IATT]

 

[rexanglorum]

Who the **** likes McCain or is saying the 2008 GOP was not dangerous?

People are just saying Trump is worst, which he clearly is.

The prospect of McCain with a Dem Congress is way less scary that Trump with a GOP Congress.

All people are pointing out is the dynamics of 2008 race is different than 2016. That is all.

rexanglorum you really need to chill with this "liberals do this..." steez, especially when you follow it up with a strawman. You like to jump on anyone that dear paint Bernie supporters or leftist with a wide brush, yet quick to do the same to others.

2008 was no different, every election in my lifetime has involved a ghoulish Republican Party.

The fact of the matter is, Hillary supporters who declared PUMA (Party Unity My ***) and voted for McCain in 2008, were wealthier than the Sanders voters who refused to vote for Clinton in 2016.

We grow up in a classist society where poor and working class people are taught to hate themselves and to defer to their wealthier "betters."

One manifestation of this is demands for fealty for the poor students, warehouse workers, retail workers, food service workers, hospitality workers. Meanwhile, most Democratic candidates talk about how they can appeal to "moderate" Republicans in the suburbs.

In a deeply classist society, poor voters are expected to fall in line and wealthier voter are supposed to political free agents and are to be courted and have policy and messaging of Democratic candidates bent to their will and preferences.



Regarding your other statement. You're right that not all liberals are centrists but no can deny that powerful or at least very visible liberal institutions and platforms have rehabbed the image of the George W. Bush administration. This is despite the fact that, to date, at least, the Bush administration's death count is orders of magnitude beyond the Trump administration.

Again, you can murder half million mostly poor Iraqis and it's cool but offend the sensibilities of white, urban professionals and you're considered an existential threat to the Republic. Of Course, god willing, Bernie will be President for eight years and after that, Donald Trump will be dancing with Ellen and Sarah Huckabee will be writing for the Atlantic.

 

[IATT]

Which is going to be the problem

 

[RustyShackleford]

The King has spoken...

 

[IATT]

The level of stupid..

 

[boris]

The level of stupid..

I think this is the hypocrisy dwalk has been looking for.

 

[boris]

Yes

You'd rather see four more years of Trump?

 

[IATT]

dwalk31 how much money got wasted on this thing?

 

[dwalk31]

dwalk31 how much money got wasted on this thing?

Probably less than the impeachment proceedings. But who's counting?

 

[IATT]

Probably less than the impeachment proceedings. But who's counting?

 

[aepps20]

Probably less than the impeachment proceedings. But who's counting?

We also know you aren't counting Roy's victims .

 

[IATT]

 

[gry60]

It’s official: The Trump tax cuts were a bust

Lower taxes helped goose profits and stocks, but did little for jobs or the economy.

www.marketwatch.com

 

[gry60]

Probably less than the impeachment proceedings. But who's counting?

O’Neill says Cheney told him, `Deficits don’t matter’

Former Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill said he was told “deficits don’t matter” when he warned of a looming fiscal crisis. In a new book chronicling his rocky two-year tenur…

www.chicagotribune.com

 

[dacomeup]

Why do liberals have the compulsion to retroactively like past GOP and Presidents abd candidates?

You really been wilding lately. Everything good? These statements have been super off.

 

[Nike Jordan]

It’s official: The Trump tax cuts were a bust

Lower taxes helped goose profits and stocks, but did little for jobs or the economy.

www.marketwatch.com

The "tax cuts" weren't actually tax cuts.

 

[Belgium]

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/481112-trump-i-think-sanders-is-a-communist
Trump: I think Sanders is a communist
President Trump said in an interview broadcast Sunday that he thinks Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is a communist.

Fox News host Sean Hannity asked Trump in an interview that aired prior to Super Bowl LIV for quick reactions to a number of Democratic presidential candidates, including Sanders.

"I think he’s a communist. I mean, you know, look, I think of communism when I think of Bernie," Trump told Fox News host Sean Hannity.

"Now, you could say socialist, but didn’t he get married in Moscow?" Trump added, with Hannity interjecting to note Sanders went to the former Soviet Union on his honeymoon.