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The office of President. It was a hypothetical.
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The office of President. It was a hypothetical.
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a job he doesn’t have and hasn’t in 77 years on this planet
so again, what the hell is he going be impeached from
and if has something to do with his soon to be 50 year old son, then shouldn’t they be looking at the actions of trump’s 3 kids?
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That's why it is a hypothetical
Are any of Trump's children on the board for a foreign company? If so, then I certainly think that is fair game to discuss
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Bernie a going to win the nomination regardless of Iowa, because he is running the same damn “I’m a outsider” campaign he ran in 2016 and still hasn’t figured out he needs to do extensive outreach to African Americans.
Then he and Warren both got into it and he’s not pulling all of her people either. I like his policies but he’s on the low running a short sighted campaign.
Honestly I don’t even like how his interaction with Biden was where he apologized and didn’t distance/fire the surrogate he apologized for. Campaigns in a lot of ways show how people manage and yeah..... I’m not a fan. My only hope is Bernie forces Biden to go left on his BS moderate stances before this primary is through.
Also nobody cares about Hunter Biden. There is no story, if there was even a slither of a story we wouldn’t have got this far in impeachment. Republicans would have shut it down from jump.
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Y’all gotta start talking bout hypotheticals...
and unless the trumps are extremely stupid, anything owned by them outside of the US would be owned by a company in that jurisdiction with a US company or trust owning shares in that company
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Your support of Roy Moore and his disgusting behavior against minors is why I have a problem with you.
dacomeup
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They're profiting off of the Presidency daily. Surely, you understand that being on the board of a foreign company is not the only situation that can be called into question.
We can talk about the Trump sons selling a 15.8 million penthouse suite to Angela Chen, who runs a consulting firm with ties to Chinese government officials and (allegedly) Chinese military intelligence.
Ivanka and Kushner receiving clearances that they shouldn't have.
Ivanka representing the country at things like the G20, which she had no business doing.
Ivanka receiving IP provisional trademarks from China conveniently on the same day she and Kushner sat next to Chinese president Xi Jinping at a White House state dinner, and more trademarks from China in the midst of the trade war started by her father.
The Scottish golf course deal with Dumb and Dumber, even though they claimed that they wouldn't do international business deals while Trump was in office.
I mean, the list goes on and on. But again, this isn't about genuine discourse. Instead, you're trolling over a hypothetical that does nothing but stoke those who sit across the aisle, which is par for the course with you.
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No but they have business interests abroad and domestically, some of which intersect with government roles.
Kushner receives money from offshore companies while working in the WH for example and has gotten a huge bailout from Qatar while the administration was discussing a potential blockade of Qatar with Saudi Arabia and the UAE. He has been advertised as a middle east policy adviser and Tillerson testified about Kushner's key role in the blockade.
Ivanka received trademark grants from China shortly before Trump reversed his own administration's ZTE ban. In the days before the reversal, China also invested $500m in an Indonesian theme park property where the Trump Org is building a hotel/golf course, which obviously provides a significant benefit.
There are also Trump properties abroad that pose money laundering concerns that could be exploited. Most notably in Azerbaijan and Panama.
Ivanka played a major role in both. The new owners of the Trump Ocean Club in Panama are currently suing the Trump Org for tax evasion based on financial records, claiming they could be on the hook for millions of dollars if Panama decided to reclaim the money. The lawsuit also claims the Trump Org, specifically Ivanka Trump, misled them about the property's financial state prior to the sale.
There's also an ongoing criminal investigation into selfdealing by the Trump Inaugural Committee. Top advisers repeatedly advised Ivanka that they were grossly overcharging rates for the Trump Hotel and warned that the final revision was still far too high. That has resulted in a federal criminal investigation and a recent lawsuit by the D.C. AG.
Trump never divested from his business, lied about doing so, and maintained an active role in the company at least when it come to the Stormy Daniels conspiracy.
Etc. etc.
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But surely the bar can’t be profiting from the presidency?
Hard to imagine any president that hasn’t profited from the presidency.
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You took that entire write up with specific examples of inappropriate (at the very least) situations that the present and his family have engaged in, not hypotheticals involving someone who isn't president, and your response is that the bar can't be profiting from the presidency? You have no interest in sincere and thoughtful discourse. You're just here to troll and then weasel out of it by hanging on a loose word when you don't have a leg to stand on.
Are those situations presented examples of inappropriate behavior, at least, or serious impropriety?
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I summed up based on the points you made, but I’ll address each issue:
-A record of penthouse sales prior to the presidency and buyers would be helpful. But yes, that particular sale can give the appearance of impropriety in a vacuum.
- The clearances are entirely subjective unless there is some issue with a background check
- Like the clearances Trump can designate who he wishes for those positions
- I mean, coincidence?
-The golf course deal can also give the appearance of impropriety.
Again, I don’t think profiting from the presidency can be the bar. I’m sure we can nitpick several presidents and come to conclusions like this.
Trump is unique in that he’s a billionaire that was making international deals prior to the presidency. There’s no requirement that he divest. But those appearances of impropriety are fair game to discuss. Biden would be smart to respond with them.
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This is some real disingenuous ********.
There is a difference from profiting from being president after you leave office, from books and speeches and such, and profiting while you are in office because of politicial and economic moves.
One is fine, one is graft.
Nonsense post like these is why people know you are not here for discourse. And why Meth will never buy your excuses for your trolling.
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You (all) are.
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At least you’re honest about your opinion.
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I think you are a deplorable because of the many, many things you have said in this thread since I been here. You act obtuse to it as well which shows you are a troll as well.
swendro
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No one gets the benefit of the doubt any more. Support trump and you’re scum.
dacomeup
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And he knows this. It's just disingenuous bull **** that he does in here every single day.
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You certainly aren't. Using due process as a shield to justify Roy Moore and your undying support
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Clown Pete needs to get all the way OUTTA here.
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Its always crazy how cheap politicians are. Senators cost thousands, Trump is selling America out for a few million....... I guess scaling it down a mayor of a major metropolis would be good for a few hundred.
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