And impeachment was because of the democratic majority.......................
......deciding to uphold the Constitution.
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And impeachment was because of the democratic majority.......................
......deciding to uphold the Constitution.
so donny getting caught red handed had nothing to do with it?
Dude, if there was a young white guy that believe in progressive economics, and had regressive social views, he was already voting Bernie in the primary. And these voters are not gonna swarm the polls and hand him the victory.
Signal boosting boosting Rogan just reenforces a negative view many had about Bernie.
So I will maintain that this was a dumb move strategically because Sanders is not running for President right now.
Yes I am sure this whole Rogan thing is gonna putting him ahead with the older black church going women that he needs to win over.
Famb if someone is a white person that has regressive social views, but still leads left, Bernie was probably already their guy.
The whistleblower caught him during the scheme, and when Congress publicly raised the issue Trump ordered the lifting of the hold.I don’t think he was “caught red handed.”
But those older white voter top two choices were probably Biden and Bernie.I would argue the people with these specific views in the electorate are an unpersuadable tiny minority of party elites who would never vote for him anyways.
you'd be surprised at the **** that can pop into an older person's facebook feed.
"Bernie taking fire from the work left" i can totally imagine being the tipping point for an older white un woke person deciding to pull the lever for Bernie.
The whistleblower caught him during the scheme, and when Congress publicly raised the issue Trump ordered the lifting of the hold.
But those older white voter top two choices were probably Biden and Bernie.
Biden pisses off the left daily, but this one instance gonna put Bernie over? Are we forgetting that Bernie has his own online buffoon squad, that jumps on line for everything.
And what about progressives that were deciding between Warren and Bernie. I really don't buy that the only people that take issue with Bernie are party elites that would never vote for him anyway. There are legit reasons not to vote for Bernie.
There is a cost benefit to every politicial move, but at this point I just don't buy your argument that there is nothing but upside with this play. At the end of the day it just look like a minor goof to me.
Famb I really just think that Bernie pissed off people you find annoying, so you are backfilling your defense from there. This made Bernie more attractive to you, so you are defending the move
I thought we were discussing whether or not he committed an impeachable offense. But for the democratic majority, I don’t believe he would have.
The other poster ostensibly believes that but for the republican majority in the Senate, he’d be removed.
My spidey sense tells me that the Senate vote of acquittal will be more bipartisan than the house vote for impeachment. As the senate is supposed to be the more sober of the two.
You said you don't believe he was "caught red handed."I thought we were discussing whether or not he committed an impeachable offense. But for the democratic majority, I don’t believe he would have.
The other poster ostensibly believes that but for the republican majority in the Senate, he’d be removed.
My spidey sense tells me that the Senate vote of acquittal will be more bipartisan than the house vote for impeachment. As the senate is supposed to be the more sober of the two.
You said you don't believe he was "caught red handed."
That's demonstrably false, he was caught while the scheme was ongoing.
Brah Everytime Biden walks that reaching across the aisle steez or coddles moderates, the left flip out.also Biden may piss off the left he's still an establishment figure, Bernies independent branding, means he can position himself as someone who is going to "change things in washington" but still un woke conservative branding wise.
It implies wrongdoing. Abuse of power is wrongdoing.Red-handed implies something illegal.
I don’t believe that to be the case. Ostensibly the House didn’t either as they didn’t include bribery in the articles. Nor do I believe he did anything that rises to the level of impeachment.
It doesn’t matter if you don’t believe it to be illegal.Red-handed implies something illegal.
I don’t believe that to be the case. Ostensibly the House didn’t either as they didn’t include bribery in the articles. Nor do I believe he did anything that rises to the level of impeachment.
It implies wrongdoing. Abuse of power is wrongdoing.
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GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding Ukraine aid