***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[Belgium]

At the very least I hope these dudes dont have daughters...

It goes without saying of course that this remark is coming from a racist biblethumper.
Just wait until rep. Steve “what have non-white subgroups ever contributed to civilization” King finds out Jesus wasn’t white.

 

[AEA18]

At the very least I hope these dudes dont have daughters...

These clowns are scared of their own skeletons coming out of the closet.

 

[IATT]

 

[nomnom]

Watching the TX Senate debate

Cruz is such a slimeball

Moving the goal post on every question

 

[SoleByThePound]

Ted Cruz is an even bigger piece of **** than Trump, that’s an extremely difficult feat to accomplish.

 

[dreamer23]

 

[deleted]

Trump supporters in 2016 - "This changes everything! You can throw that old rule book in the dumpster!"

Trump supporters in 2018 -

 

[aepps20]

I don't know about you but that is not my Texas.

 

[Belgium]

(Scroll down a bit for the actual WSJ article regarding Goldstone's Mueller interview and grand jury testimony, I went off on a little tangent regarding Azerbaijan)

Goldstone was interviewed for roughly 8 hours in March and testified to Mueller's grand jury a couple weeks later. He says he has not been called back by the special counsel since then.
Mueller's team reportedly inquired about the relationship between the Trump family and the Agalarov family, the relationship between Putin and the Agalarovs and a walkthrough of Trump's 2013 Moscow trip and the planning regarding a Moscow Trump Tower project.

Mueller requested an interview with Emin Agalarov last fall but as of last month that had not yet been arranged according to one of Agalarov's lawyers. The lawyer did not respond to a request for comment on this article.

Perhaps of note, Devin Nunes traveled to Azerbaijan in early August 2018 to meet with president Ilham Alyev. Emin Agalarov was previously married to the Azerbaijan president's daughter but they divorced in 2015.
https://www.azernews.az/nation/136067.html

Trump also had a project in Azerbaijan; a 5-star hotel that stands out like a golden statue in some dirty alley and never even opened. Investors behind the Trump Tower Baku project were linked to the country's Minister of Transportation, Ziya Mammadov. To illustrate what kind of character and notoriety this individual brings to the table, the Trump Org's chief legal officer Alan Garten insisted to reporters that the hotel raised no ethical objections for Trump specifically because the company had never engaged Mammadov directly, which of course implies that such involvement would in fact be a problem if that were the case.
Garten insisted that Trump was merely a licensor who lent his name to a company headed by Mammadov's son Anar. Not a direct link to Ziya Mammadov but common sense dictates that the man's son is pretty close to a direct link.

The development started in 2008 and initially planned to build high end apartment complexes. In 2012 the project was transformed into a high end luxury hotel after the Trump Org signed a number of contracts with the Azerbaijan investors behind it. The project stands out not just because of its luxurious look but because the surrounding area is largely underdeveloped. The main business district is on the other side of the city.

The leading Trump Org executive on the project was Ivanka Trump.

Garten announced the Trump Org had severed ties with the hotel about a month after Trump was elected. He described it as "housecleaning."

Mammadov's son was not the only Mammadov family member involved in the hotel however, at least according to his brother Elton.
Elton is a member of the Azerbaijan parliament and signed the contracts. In an interview he confirmed he founded the company that owns the Trump Tower Baku hotel. He referred to his ownership as a "commercial secret" due to his political position in parliament but also stated that he "controlled all its operations" until 2015 when he severed ties.
Said company, Baku XXI Century, also has at least 2 other stakeholders. One of them is listed as "ZQAN", which appears to be an acronym for the members of the Mammadov family.
Ziya, his wife Qanira, the son Anar and his daughter Nigar. The other stakeholder company is run by a businessman who also has ties to Ziya Mammadov.

The Mammadov family also has significant financial entanglements with an Iranian family who in turn has ties to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

In response to allegations of corruption, money laundering, ... the Trump Org chief legal officer Alan Garten said this:
“I’m not going to sit here and defend the Mammadovs,” he said. But, from a legal standpoint, he argued, the Trump Organization was blameless. In his opinion, the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act doesn’t apply to the Baku deal, even if corruption occurred. “We didn’t own it,” he said of the hotel. “We had no equity. We didn’t control the project. The flow of funds is in the wrong direction.” He added, “We did not pay any money to anyone. Therefore, it could not be a violation of the F.C.P.A.”


https://www.wsj.com/articles/muelle...ionaire-russian-azerbaijani-family-1537816200
Mueller Asked About Trump’s Link to Billionaire Russian-Azerbaijani Family
Publicist Rob Goldstone, who arranged Trump Tower meeting in June 2016 with Donald Trump Jr., met with special counsel team in March

Special counsel Robert Mueller asked questions about the relationship between President Trump and the billionaire Russian-Azerbaijani family who arranged the June 2016 meeting between Trump campaign aides and a Russian lawyer linked to the Kremlin, according to a participant of the meeting.

Rob Goldstone, who worked as a publicist for the Agalarov family and contacted Donald Trump Jr. in June 2016 on their behalf, spent roughly eight hours talking to Mr. Mueller’s team in March. Weeks later, he testified before the special counsel’s grand jury probing Russian interference in the 2016 election and any possible collusion between Mr. Trump’s campaign and Moscow. The president and Russia deny any collusion.

In his 2016 email to the president’s son arranging the meeting, Mr. Goldstone said the Russian lawyer had damaging information about Democrat Hillary Clinton that had been collected by the Russian government as part of an effort to help Mr. Trump.

In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, he said Mr. Mueller’s investigators were particularly interested in how the relationship between Mr. Trump and the Agalarov family began, as well as a 2013 trip by Mr. Trump to Moscow for the Miss Universe pageant. The Agalarovs sponsored the pageant, which Mr. Trump co-owned at the time.

“They wanted to know about what I thought their relationship was with the Trumps, and what their relationship was with any Russian government officials, [including] the Kremlin,” Mr. Goldstone said.

Reflecting on his role in one of the key episodes of the special counsel investigation, Mr. Goldstone has written a book titled, “Pop Stars, Pageants and Presidents: How an Email Trumped My Life.” In the book, set to be released Tuesday, Mr. Goldstone describes his testimony before Mr. Mueller’s team and the grand jury.

In their meeting with Mr. Goldstone, investigators asked about the relationship between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Aras Agalarov, whose real-estate company has won several state contracts in Russia, and to whom Mr. Putin in 2013 awarded the Order of Honor of the Russian Federation, a high-profile civilian prize.

Mr. Goldstone said he never heard the elder Mr. Agalarov describe himself as friends with the Russian president, but said he was “very proud” of the projects he had done for the state.

Mr. Mueller last fall requested an interview with Emin Agalarov, which as of last month hadn’t yet been arranged, according to a lawyer for the Agalarovs. The lawyer didn’t respond to a request for comment on Monday.

A list of questions Mr. Mueller wants to ask the president that he provided to Mr. Trump’s legal team this year includes one about Mr. Trump’s communication and relationships with Russian government officials and the Agalarov family during the 2013 trip to Moscow.

Investigators asked Mr. Goldstone to “walk them through” Mr. Trump’s visit to Moscow, during which he sought—and failed—to meet Mr. Putin and discussed with business associates possible plans for a Trump Tower in the Russian capital.

“They wanted to know about the idea of a Trump Tower—how did that come about,” Mr. Goldstone said. He said they were also interested in any time that Mr. Trump didn’t spend with the group, which Mr. Goldstone said was a “small period of maybe four hours.”

Three years after Mr. Trump’s visit to Moscow, Mr. Goldstone wrote the June 2016 email to Mr. Trump Jr. to tell him a top Russian prosecutor had “offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary [Clinton] and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.” He said the prosecutor had communicated this offer to the Agalarovs.

In his book, Mr. Goldstone describes the email as “full of attention-grabbing hyperbole.”

Mr. Trump Jr. responded by offering to speak to the younger Mr. Agalarov about the matter. “[If] it’s what you say I love it,” the younger Mr. Trump wrote, appearing to suggest the information would be good to release “later in the summer.”

Later that month, Mr. Trump Jr. met with a Russian lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, at Trump Tower, along with top campaign aides Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner. Ms. Veselnitskaya brought with her a Russian-American lobbyist and a translator. Mr. Goldstone also attended the meeting.

According to testimony by the participants in the meeting, Ms. Veselnitskaya didn’t offer damaging information about Mrs. Clinton and sought to turn the conversation to the Magnitsky Act, a 2012 U.S. law that punishes Russian officials accused of human-rights violations. Moscow banned Americans from adopting Russian children in response to the U.S. law’s passage.

Mr. Goldstone said investigators asked detailed questions about what occurred in the meeting, including asking him to “draw them a table of who sat where.”

More than a year after news of the Trump Tower meeting broke last summer—on a day that Mr. Goldstone was spending in Athens, he wrote—Mr. Goldstone remains frustrated about his role in it.

“While I may be angry at Emin, I am frustrated at myself for not listening to that little voice in my head,” Mr. Goldstone said. “I should’ve listened more and just said, ‘Do it yourself.’ ”

Mr. Goldstone said he hasn’t been contacted by Mr. Mueller since his grand jury appearance.

 

[stuntman mike]

dude is in the drive thru doing keith moon. i feel like moving to texas just so i can vote for him

 

[IATT]

RustyShackleford

 

[aepps20]

RustyShackleford

Tomi doing Coal Business. Props to Rusty and Tomi.

 

[whywesteppin]

Tomi doing Coal Business. Props to Rusty and Tomi.

Watch the libs cry about this.

Truth: Tomi is looking out for Michelle. She would've told her to shut up and dribble but Tomi recognizes that Michelle knows her x's and o's and, at this point in her life, she's most suited for a career in coaching women's high school basketball.

The full quote: "You have a great jumper and post-up game, and your recognition on the court is a cut above. But your lateral speed just isn't what it once was, and these players coming out of college are only getting taller, faster, and stronger. Sit down, Michelle, and grab that clipboard. You're born to be a coach."

I know Rusty is proud.

 

[IATT]

 

[IATT]

 

[Belgium]

dude is in the drive thru doing keith moon. i feel like moving to texas just so i can vote for him

Hit up Soros fam, he'll bus you over to Texas and have you illegally voting not just once but multiple times

 

[RustyShackleford]

RustyShackleford

I gotta talk to Big Mama before she sees this.

This idiot finna cost me the Thanskgiving Dinner invite. Gonna have me in out in the cold with with aepps20

 

[blastercombo]

“Didn’t have intercourses or anything like intercourse in high school and many years after”

 

[gry60]

"I did not have sex with that woman."

Bill must be rolling on the floor right now.

 

[sonoftony]

virgins sexually assault people too

 

[Belgium]

"No intercourse in high school", ok that's not that odd but "and many years thereafter" though
yikes

 

[blastercombo]

He basically dug his own grave because, denial 101, do NOT say NOT. Now all that needs to happen is ONE girl, or young boy, to step up and tell him to sit down. Oh wait, there is one......

 

[$tatus $ymbol]

Them Arabs some G’s. Straight up told NBC if this admin slides in their waters it’s game over and it’s not a threat it’s reality

 

[RustyShackleford]

So Kavanaugh was an incel.

It all makes sense now

 

[Cashflow]

He played the Virgin Card