***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[getback]

Is there a chart with bombings, stabbings, and/or using vehicles as weapons?

What do you think the solution to people killing people is?

There's no short answer for this. It's an American problem. No other developed country kills each other the way we do. Mental health, racism, unequal distribution of wealth, work/life balance, censorship, media, history, xenophobia, access to weapons.....and so on and so forth. There are dozens of social problems, some unique to this country, that interact and create a "perfect storm" which makes us more prone to violence.

Shooting people is much more convenient because a gun is the most accessible and efficient tool.
You can't conceal a car. You can't bring a car into a building. You can't stab people from meters away. Making a bomb isn't like making a sandcastle. A lot can go wrong compared to loading up a semi-auto.

 

[biggie62]

Lindsey Graham: Trump should replace AG Jeff Sessions because their relationship is 'beyond repair' https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/28/lin...sions-because-relationship-beyond-repair.html

They def have something on Graham that he’s afraid of.

 

[rolaholic]

Most definitely,those hacked GOP emails were never leaked and they've got Rand Paul and Graham by the balls all of a sudden...

In deep red Texas of all places...seems like the Senate could be in play come November after all

 

[dwalk31]

There's no short answer for this. It's an American problem. No other developed country kills each other the way we do. Mental health, racism, unequal distribution of wealth, work/life balance, censorship, media, history, xenophobia, access to weapons.....and so on and so forth. There are dozens of social problems, some unique to this country, that interact and create a "perfect storm" which makes us more prone to violence.

Shooting people is much more convenient because a gun is the most accessible and efficient tool.
You can't conceal a car. You can't bring a car into a building. You can't stab people from meters away. Making a bomb isn't like making a sandcastle. A lot can go wrong compared to loading up a semi-auto.

In this case, speaking about the madden shooting, he was armed with a .45 and a 9mm. What would be a realistic way to avoid this specific type of violence. I agree with all of the factors you cited. But what is a realistic solution? "Gun reform" doesn't seem like it would address the situation in this case. Unless no one would be allowed to purchase weapons with a history of mental treatment. I think that would serve to diminish the number of people who would seek help.

 

[whywesteppin]

mystery solved

 

[DADDYFATSACKS]

You know it had to hurt him when he got arrested and his people put his race as black.

Son prob told his White friends in his White sounding voice “I don’t know why they labeled me as Black I’m not a Nword.”

 

[DADDYFATSACKS]

mystery solved

We are legit the laughing stock of the world forelecting this Clown. Thanks White people.

 

[IATT]

I think that would serve to diminish the number of people who would seek help.

Maybe just maybe, that should be one of the prerequisites to owning a gun (mandatory mental health screening)

Along with extensive background checks.. record keeping and registration, for all guns and ammunition.. plus a revaluation of the punitive measures that come with gun violence

Also compulsory education and also insurance, for those potentially affected by your desire to own a gun

At the very least make it on the same level asked of an individual when owning and/or operating another potential dangerous thing, a car

 

[frenchbreadbuilds]

The difference between buying a gun in the US vs Japan is astounding.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/02/world/international-gun-laws.html

United States 1Pass an instant background check that considers criminal convictions, domestic violence and immigration status. 2 Buy a gun

Many states have additional buying restrictions, including waiting periods and expanded background checks. Roughly a third of American gun owners buy guns without a background check, which federal law does not require when buying directly from a private seller.

Japan 1Take a firearm class and pass a written exam, which is held up to three times a year. 2Get a doctor’s note saying you are mentally fit and do not have a history of drug abuse. 3Apply for a permit to take firing training, which may take up to a month. 4Describe in a police interview why you need a gun. 5Pass a review of your criminal history, gun possession record, employment, involvement with organized crime groups, personal debt and relationships with friends, family and neighbors. 6Apply for a gunpowder permit. 7Take a one-day training class and pass a firing test. 8Obtain a certificate from a gun dealer describing the gun you want. 9If you want a gun for hunting, apply for a hunting license. 10Buy a gun safe and an ammunition locker that meet safety regulations. 11Allow the police to inspect your gun storage. 12Pass an additional background review. 13Buy a gun.
Some countries require buyers to accurately hit a target or demonstrate safe handling procedures.

 

[RIP sleazyy]

Hilarious.

Son needs to shut up and golf.

 

[aepps20]

Questioning the political biases of Google is a worthwhile discussion. Libs hate free speech.

 

[getback]

In this case, speaking about the madden shooting, he was armed with a .45 and a 9mm. What would be a realistic way to avoid this specific type of violence. I agree with all of the factors you cited. But what is a realistic solution? "Gun reform" doesn't seem like it would address the situation in this case. Unless no one would be allowed to purchase weapons with a history of mental treatment. I think that would serve to diminish the number of people who would seek help.

Create more checks and balances so that there's a higher chance that these shooters get swept up along the way. More barriers create greater odds of person being either deterred or apprehended beforehand.

The absolute negligent, insane and cowardly thing to do would be: nothing.

 

[RIP sleazyy]

Unless no one would be allowed to purchase weapons with a history of mental treatment. I think that would serve to diminish the number of people who would seek help.

A mental health evaluation should be mandatory for anyone who wants to purchase a gun. And it should be out of their pocket.

I bought one of my guns on my lunch break from work. That's how simple it is. It should not be that way.

 

[Mark Antony]

Most definitely,those hacked GOP emails were never leaked and they've got Rand Paul and Graham by the balls all of a sudden...

In deep red Texas of all places...seems like the Senate could be in play come November after all

It's kinda amazing what this dude is doing, where he's doing it, on a progressive stance. He must really be harping on economic fixes that they resonate with.

 

[dwalk31]

Maybe just maybe, that should be one of the prerequisites to owning a gun (mandatory mental health screening)

Along with extensive background checks.. record keeping and registration, for all guns and ammunition.. plus a revaluation of the punitive measures that come with gun violence

Also compulsory education and also insurance, for those potentially affected by your desire to own a gun

At the very least make it on the same level asked of an individual when owning and/or operating another potential dangerous thing, a car

You certainly don't need a mandatory mental health screening to own a car. And you don't go through an extensive background check to buy a car... and tons of people drive without insurance and without an active driver's license. And the penalty for these infractions is a small fine. And far more people die from cars, than from guns.

I guess my question is will it actually solve the issue? I mean the only real solution is "changing the hearts and minds" but I admit that is not very persuasive. And far more people die from non-mass shooter shootings. That is why the politicization of it seems to fall flat, to me, personally.

 

[dwalk31]

A mental health evaluation should be mandatory for anyone who wants to purchase a gun. And it should be out of their pocket.

I bought one of my guns on my lunch break from work. That's how simple it is. It should not be that way.

You could have bought a car on your lunch break, too...

 

[IATT]

You certainly don't need

Read to succeed:

At the very least

 

[IATT]

 

[IATT]

 

[RIP sleazyy]

You could have bought a car on your lunch break, too...

It actually took me longer to purchase a brand new motorcycle than it did for me to buy a pistol.

My rifle took a few days but the majority of that was shipping time. Once it hit my FFL I had it in my hands in under an hour. Hell dude let me break it down in store and install my optic before my background check was complete

Oh yeah the point of the lunch break thing is how easy it would have been for me to come back to work with a gun if I was mad etc. I could buy a car, but I mean I also could have gotten some soup. Hell if I ordered pizza it would have taken longer to get that.

 

[rolaholic]

It's kinda amazing what this dude is doing, where he's doing it, on a progressive stance. He must really be harping on economic fixes that they resonate with.

That seems to be the case quite often when the message actually gets out and through to those folks. There were a lot of progressive upsets in traditionally red strongholds the South earlier this year once voters actually got to hear from the candidates themselves instead of the mind numbing and fear mongering propaganda.

Their economic messages generally resonate with people given that they usually have working class interests in mind and at the forefront instead of their own pockets and countless special interests

 

[chao7]

Create more checks and balances so that there's a higher chance that these shooters get swept up along the way. More barriers create greater odds of person being either deterred or apprehended beforehand.

The absolute negligent, insane and cowardly thing to do would be: nothing.

You know what would be really awesome?

If Republicans didn't threaten the CDC to stop research into gun violence prevention in the mid 90s.

After the Dickey amendment, we've essentially been blocked from trying to figure out what would help fix the problem.

The NRA painted the CDC as "pro gun control", got the GOP to threaten to revoke funding from the department.

You know what I think? When you freak out over people even being able to look into the statistics surrounding an issue, you know your stance will be proven wrong.

Stop keeping the country in the dark because the NRA has you on the payroll, GOP.

 

[rolaholic]

Forever relevant

 

[rolaholic]

Breh





Idiocracy really is in vogue

 

[chao7]

"I remember Pearl Harbor", said the dude born in 1946.