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Nah, these fools come in here to ***** about the echo chamber and how no one wants to listen to their opinion, but they provide zero data to support what they're saying. This is why I think they're all just trolling.

Data like the jobs reports? When they are posted, the response in here is that when Obama was president Trump said he didn't trust the numbers. It isn't data that you want.

The sensation you are feeling is confirmation bias.
 
Show us the numbers and then provide the type of jobs made open. Show us how the pay given offsets the new found loss of healthcare as well
 
Show us the numbers and then provide the type of jobs made open. Show us how the pay given offsets the new found loss of healthcare as well

Thanks for helping to make my point. Data isn't what he's after. Because both sides spin and explain the data in accordance with their confirmation bias.
 
Racists really do hate being called racists even when they're not actually being called racists.
"I'm not violent and I ain't no racist. But let me catch an uppity black man like D Lemon in the streets and I'm going to shoot him."

- white male in 2018 America
 
Thanks for helping to make my point. Data isn't what he's after. Because both sides spin and explain the data in accordance with their confirmation bias.
No, the data you wish to present doesn’t show the entire scope. I can show a place “gained” 4 Jobs But a week before lost 10 that offered more money and benefits. I could show the 4 “gained” jobs but that wouldn’t show everything. Is that difficult to understand or should I turn to Cheerios for manipulative aid?
 
i just think sometimes the hypocrisy is too blatant to go unnoticed. especially in this thread. there are people that have praised trump for the same stats present under obama. confirmation bias is definitely real. but the backwards justification for supporting trump after the fact gets played out after awhile. imo people are getting behind the "cultural change" trump dog whistles first, then look for ways to justify it via data. if not for that their praise for trumps stats should mirror praise for obama. and it clearly doesnt
 
I'm not an economist so in general I try not to judge a president too much based on the economy. I understand a couple principles: it takes years (or decades) before we can appreciate the full impact of a policy and the whole thing is complex (simple direct correlation may be deceptive, and multiple variables are always at play).

So when I see a statement made about a president barely into his second year transforming the economy, I typically gag.

Something as simple as loosening some health regulations (asbestos?) may stimulate a 1% boost in economic growth over the next five years but then lead to a health crisis in 20, for example.
 
i just think sometimes the hypocrisy is too blatant to go unnoticed. especially in this thread. there are people that have praised trump for the same stats present under obama. confirmation bias is definitely real. but the backwards justification for supporting trump after the fact gets played out after awhile. imo people are getting behind the "cultural change" trump dog whistles first, then look for ways to justify it via data. if not for that their praise for trumps stats should mirror praise for obama. and it clearly doesnt
Yes there’s bias but bias only goes so far when there’s actual legitimate facts in your face.
 
I'm not an economist so in general I try not to judge a president too much based on the economy. I understand a couple principles: it takes years (or decades) before we can appreciate the full impact of a policy and the whole thing is complex (simple direct correlation may be deceptive, and multiple variables are always at play).

So when I see a statement made about a president barely into his second year transforming the economy, I typically gag.

Something as simple as loosening some health regulations (asbestos?) may stimulate a 1% boost in economic growth over the next five years but then lead to a health crisis in 20, for example.
Lol well said. Car regulations just took a lock to the **** so that less clean ones can be made. They MAY (hasn’t yet) lead to more cars being made but that also now leads to more health problems. Now, someone can just point at a single number for a quick “LOOK LOOK!!” Or we can look at the whole scope to see the single number isn’t telling the whole story
 
In his 1997 book, The Art of the Comeback, Trump argued that the association of the chemical with health risks was part of a mob-created conspiracy. “I believe that the movement against asbestos was led by the mob, because it was often mob-related companies that would do the asbestos removal. Great pressure was put on politicians, and as usual, the politicians relented,” he wrote.

https://www.newsweek.com/pruitt-trump-asbestos-chemicals-trump-962703?amp=1
 
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Data like the jobs reports? When they are posted, the response in here is that when Obama was president Trump said he didn't trust the numbers. It isn't data that you want.

The sensation you are feeling is confirmation bias.
So, you're not gonna post data to support your claims and then tell me that I don't want data. Keep up the trolling.
 
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