***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[whywesteppin]

Bless

confirmed. obummer is a muslim!

 

[IATT]

Yea.. we'll see

 

[RustyShackleford]

They use the rhetoric as their European counter parts. They paint this picture of a beastly, hyper fecund horde of brown people out breeding whites. They also talk about a liberal (often times Jewish) elite who want to assist said horde in its efforts.

it's like continuation of Lee Atwater's claim that white supremacists politics will periodically change how it talks from the n-word to bussing, to tax cuts and now demographics.



I Read the article, I read the comments. Neolib Democrats, show their true colors. People, most of them white but a good chunk of them black in the case of Maryland, have gotten rich in the counties near D.C.. They have gorged themselves on rent seeking industries and many residents of those counties are now part of that 10-20% of Americans who actually get raises and who have a good life and a future.

Meanwhile, Baltimore is poorer and in worse shape than it was 20 years ago when it inspired The Wire into existence. Here we got Legget, fretting that his rich constituents should have to pay slightly higher taxes so that people in places like Baltimore can have healthcare and tuition free community college. Ben jealous gets branded a radical for wanting poor, mostly black folks in Baltimore and the poor parts of the Counties to have access to basic services.

Apparently, Ben Jealous he has also not been kind enough to blood sucker Jeff Bezos and the army of out of state techies who want to bring a housing affordability crisis to Maryland. Some say that neoliberalism is not a thing, take a look at this article, it's definitely a force and worldview in our politics in our politics.

Luckily though, it will not be an especially powerful force in the general election. High engagement voters, those who voted for anyone in primary, tend to unify for the general election that follows. People like Legget are the Democrats' version of those wannabe aristocratic "Never Trumpers," who had no meaningful effect on the GOP's general election chances in 2016. It will be the same case for Democrats in 2018. Ben Jealous will have an easy time in November and the loud but impotent, corporate centrists voices will be exposed as hollow.

-First off, Amazon is a terrible idea for Maryland especially if they are going to put in Montgomery County. It would be a **** show if the put it everywhere near Bethesda. Maryland should not be paying them to come in the state. **** Bezos

-I think you are only somewhat right about Maryland and Jealous.

-Yes, of course, there are some useless Democrats in the state. The ones that are against his vision for the state, **** them. But Jealous should be cautious about how he messages though. His healthcare plan is especially ripe for attack since it is nowhere near as simple or cheap as Jealous would have people believe. Larry Hogan is not the Boogeyman other Republicans are, he is a moderate those approval ratings are high. I still consider him trash though. He is a clown that got put on by low turnout. But he has not been a complete ****show, and he is popular, so he has a very real shot.

Montgomery County is 3 to 1 Democrats, independents even outnumber Republicans. They will help deliver Jealous the governors mansion, not just Baltimore City and PG. One of the reasons Jealous has made traction with more affluent black voters is because of his civil rights proposals, and what that would mean for places like Baltimore. I guess, thank god he didn't listen to the left after 2016 and run away from "identity politics".

Minor Sidenote: PG county is on the borders DC, has more black people than Baltimore, and while PG as a whole is probably better off than Baltimore trust me a lot have not been gorging and getting rich from the DC job market. The Wire does not capture the full picture of poverty in Maryland. There are people in the suburbs of DC that need every bit of help too.

 

[whywesteppin]

Meanwhile, Baltimore is poorer and in worse shape than it was 20 years ago when it inspired The Wire into existence.

Just curious, what is this based on? The city at least appears better off than it was 20 years ago, but that may be due to gentrification. I wouldn't be surprised if median income, poverty levels, etc have worsened, I just didn't know if there was data on it.

 

[whywesteppin]

never forget:



dems need to take out 2 minute ads and play this clip.

 

[Nike Jordan]

 

[RustyShackleford]

And I'm supposed to buy that these people are culturally and genetically superior to everyone else.

 

[whywesteppin]

sewer people

 

[Nike Jordan]

sewer people

That's an insult...to sewer people.

 

[whywesteppin]

That's an insult...to sewer people.

I was about to add that addendum myself lol.

 

[InTheHallway]

If Jealous wins I will leave PG for the first time in my life ...

 

[RustyShackleford]

Black people in PG right now....

 

[Based Jesus]

Obeezy wearing a NT staple, Cargo pants.

Those aren't cargo pants.

 

[RustyShackleford]

And just to be clear, I'm not calling anyone inferior, just pointing out the talking point

 

[aepps20]

Black people in PG right now....

Coalition Forces ready to Stop this at all costs.

 

[EddieDoyers]

The divorce proceedings have really done a number on Mr.Jones

 

[IATT]

 

[sonoftony]

I'm for this. If that don't work, just make Election Day a bank holiday

 

[hand2handking]

 

[IATT]

 

[gry60]

 

[MalcolmNewton]

That's an insult...to sewer people.

Very fine sewer people

 

[MalcolmNewton]

Democrats, The Yoga Vote Won’t Save You

TL;DR - the 53% aren't going anywhere

"White women in yoga pants will not save the Democrats, and they won’t save American democracy. Some new data suggest that the demographic of older, white, college-educated, suburban women has been politically energized by opposition to President Donald Trump."

"The focus on college-educated, older, white women has prompted some to refer to this group by the demographic catchphrase “the yoga vote.” While the folks at FiveThirtyEight dislike the term because it lacks a certain precision, it is beginning to show up in political discourse. Rep. Tim Ryan (D-Ohio) is saying that he will run for president in 2020, and his strategy includes winning the yoga vote. Yoga voters are the new soccer moms, but I appreciate the term for its je ne sais quoi blend of white femininity and cultural appropriation."

"Relying on the yoga vote is a misguided strategy for Democrats hoping to win back the House and Senate in the midterms and the White House in 2020. The fact, is white women have an abysmal track record. From suffrage right through to the 2016 election, white women have demonstrated that they are primarily interested in protecting themselves and advancing their own political goals."

"Consider the fight for women’s suffrage, led by Elizabeth Cady Stanton, who was a liberal racist. She embraced abstract ideals of equality yet characterized black men as “Sambos” and incipient rapists. It wasn’t just that she held abhorrent views; those views shaped the movement she led, which was a movement for women’s rights ― but only for some women. She sold out African-American women and abandoned their push for suffrage when it became clear that including them would keep white women from winning the right to vote. Her solidarity was selective, and she set a precedent that white women follow to this day."

"In the middle of the last century, as the civil rights movement grew and succeeded in toppling legal segregation, white women emerged as leaders of the resistance to integration. As Elizabeth Gillespie McRae documents in her recent book Mothers of Massive Resistance, white women did the work of justifying the racist regime of Jim Crow through the cultural work of columns, textbooks and speeches that affirmed the “fiction of a content black population in need of white oversight.” White women may not have been the most visible public faces of the Jim Crow order, she writes, but they were “segregation’s constant gardeners.”

"A few decades later, white women would become central to the white power movement, which began in the mid-1970s and culminated in the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995. In her book Bring the War Home, historian Kathleen Belew details how the protection of white femininity formed the core of that movement and how white women worked to broaden the appeal of the cause."

"White women have historically shown up and shown out in the political sphere ― sometimes on the left and sometimes on the right but usually on the side of white supremacy. Given that, the insistence that college-educated white women are the demographic that will save the Democratic Party is ahistorical and unearned.

The excitement about the yoga vote masks a continuing problem for Democrats: white women without a college education. Strong support from these blue-collar white women was crucial to Trump’s victory in 2016, so before we get all starry-eyed about how women will save us, let’s be clear about which women. In fact, it’s black women who are the most loyal Democratic voters, and all the excitement about the yoga vote is yet another way to alienate those voters."

"I would be more optimistic about the yoga vote if I didn’t know the history of white women, if I didn’t know how many times they have failed to show solidarity with other women and taken care of themselves instead. "

 

[sonoftony]

I saw a Venezuelan flag in that rally

 

[mr s j king]

The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are our only hope to stop the sewer people