***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[nawghtyhare]

 

[gry60]

Thatistheplan.exe

 

[nawghtyhare]

so what happens after medicare and ss is insolvent???

 

[aepps20]

so what happens after medicare and ss is insolvent???

BLACK LUNG ACQUISITION WILL BE WITHIN REACH.

 

[nawghtyhare]

seriously though

 

[Comparison Ford]

BLACK LUNG ACQUISITION WILL BE WITHIN REACH.

#CoalGang

 

[MalcolmNewton]

so what happens after medicare and ss is insolvent???

When you reach retirement age (65), or be unfortunate to go on disability before hand, big daddy won't be cutting you any checks because they spent it all.

 

[IATT]

How much longer til this guy gets fired?

 

[EddieDoyers]

When you reach retirement age (65), or be unfortunate to go on disability before hand, big daddy won't be cutting you any checks because they spent it all.

Funny thing with this is that it would mean that our SS and Medicare withholding from our paycheck is essentially a scam since we won't see it when we get old.

 

[whywesteppin]

BLACK LUNG ACQUISITION WILL BE WITHIN REACH.

 

[nawghtyhare]

Funny thing with this is that it would mean that our SS and Medicare withholding from our paycheck is essentially a scam since we won't see it when we get old.

yoooooo i was wondering this
cause man

 

[MalcolmNewton]

Funny thing with this is that it would mean that our SS and Medicare withholding from our paycheck is essentially a scam since we won't see it when we get old.

To be fair, SS/Medicare going into the gutter was becoming an issue way before Trump came into office. This idea was floating around back during the Clinton and Bush years when it was talked about being privatized. A combination of too many old folks, so-called 'disabled' people gaming the system, and cooking the books led to SS/Medicare possibly becoming a disaster.

 

[biggie62]

SSDI is even more insolevent because of the same exploitation.

 

[EddieDoyers]

To be fair, SS/Medicare going into the gutter was becoming an issue way before Trump came into office. This idea was floating around back during the Clinton and Bush years when it was talked about being privatized. A combination of too many old folks, so-called 'disabled' people gaming the system, and cooking the books led to SS/Medicare possibly becoming a disaster.

Yeah the baby boomers been talking about it for the past two decades since they know they f’d it all up.
One of my old history teachers was like “you will have to help us fund our benefits before it’s all used up”

 

[northoaklandfc]

No he would not have

Reagan was a white supremacy loving racist that stole from the middle class and gave to the rich, just like Trump.

All the buffoonery with the modern far right can be traced back to Reagan. The world would be a better place today if Bush or Carter was president instead of that clown.

Thank you. I was literally gonna say **** that chief white supremacist which wouldn't have been nearly as insightful.

Funny thing with this is that it would mean that our SS and Medicare withholding from our paycheck is essentially a scam since we won't see it when we get old.

One of multiple reasons why I give zero damns about finessing the hell out of my pay through LLC.

 

[nawghtyhare]

Thank you. I was literally gonna say **** that chief white supremacist which wouldn't have been nearly as insightful.



One of multiple reasons why I give zero damns about finessing the hell out of my pay through LLC.

pm me how

 

[Based Jesus]

“Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un are pretty much the same,” Rodman told the website.

This is fine. Everything is fine.

 

[jape]

Funny thing with this is that it would mean that our SS and Medicare withholding from our paycheck is essentially a scam since we won't see it when we get old.

when does it get funny?

 

[northoaklandfc]

pm me how

Just standard practices, but a little more aggressive than some. Get at me if you do any contract work or have any sole proprietor income.

 

[EddieDoyers]

when does it get funny?

When those same baby boomers that talk about picking up your own bootstraps whine about their benefits getting cut

 

[RustyShackleford]

Nawghty finna start treating his tax bill and the IRS, just like he treats oreos and the supermarket.

Finessing season finna commence.

 

[EddieDoyers]

Nawghty finna start treating his tax bill and the IRS, just like he treats oreos and the supermarket.

Finessing season finna commence.

When the IRS finds out nawghtyhare owes 100k in backtaxes during an audit

 

[niketalker23]

Yeah buddy. Voted for the first time in my life. I’m a true American now. I’m finally human.

Bout to crack open this ice cold bottle of GT’s enlightened organic and raw ‘bucha and eat these organic seaweed chips to celebrate.

Going to order an Amy’s organic gluten free spinach pesto and feta pizza on Amazon pantry from Whole Foods for dinner. Going to pop that in my solar powered outdoor pizza oven while I listen to NPR.

For dessert I think I’ll use my leftover organic pinapple to make some homemade chia-pinapple sorbet.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Yeah buddy. Voted for the first time in my life. I’m a true American now. I’m finally human.

Bout to crack open this ice cold bottle of GT’s enlightened organic and raw ‘bucha and eat these organic seaweed chips to celebrate.

Going to order an Amy’s organic gluten free spinach pesto and feta pizza on Amazon pantry from Whole Foods for dinner. Going to pop that in my solar powered outdoor pizza oven while I listen to NPR.

For dessert I think I’ll use my leftover organic pinapple to make some homemade chia-pinapple sorbet.

Bruh, you legit got me about crying some red white and blue libby tears....

From one naturalized libby to another, salute.....

I'm about to pop some kombucha and toast to you famb, let's get it....



And I'm mirin the menu heavy.

#SOROS SET

WHOLE.LOTTA.KALE.GANG.****

 

[Belgium]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...9ed2e672adf_story.html?utm_term=.8eeb51d74832
Judge gives Manafort team until Friday to reply to witness tampering allegation

Former Trump presidential campaign chairman Paul Manafort plans to fight prosecutors’ claims that he tried to tamper with a witness — an accusation that could get him sent to jail before he goes on trial this summer on conspiracy and money laundering charges.

U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson of the District of Columbia set a June 15 hearing to weigh prosecutors’ demand that she revoke or tighten the terms of Manafort’s release while he is pending trial. Manafort, 69, has been on home detention.

The judge gave Manafort’s lawyers until Friday to present a written rebuttal to accusations by prosecutors that he and a longtime associate repeatedly contacted two executives at a public relations firm in hopes of persuading them to provide false testimony about secret lobbying they did at Manafort’s behest in 2013.

“Mr. Manafort is innocent, and nothing about this latest allegation changes our defense,” Manafort spokesman Jason Maloni said in a statement. “We will do our talking in court.”

In a Monday night filing, prosecutors with special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s office asked the judge to revoke or revise the conditions of Manafort’s bail because they had found probable cause to believe he sought to tamper with witnesses.

In their filing, prosecutors said that Manafort and a longtime associate reached out to two unidentified potential witnesses in February, shortly after new charges were filed accusing Manafort of failing to register as a foreign agent while lobbying on behalf of a foreign government. Those two people, prosecutors said, had worked with Manafort on that lobbying in 2012 and 2013.

Manafort called and texted one of those people repeatedly over a four-day period, according to phone and data storage records reviewed by the FBI.

Prosecutors say it appears Manafort and his longtime associate — identified by people close to the case as Konstantin Kilimnik — were seeking to get the two people to say, if investigators asked, that their past work together was focused on European officials and did not involve lobbying U.S. officials.

“We should talk,” Manafort allegedly texted in February to a person identified only as “D1” in court papers. “I have made clear that they worked in Europe.”

Days later, court papers say the person identified as Kilimnik texted the other individual, writing, “Basically P wants to give him a quick summary that he says to everybody (which is true) that our friends never lobbied in the US, and the purpose of the program was EU.”

Prosecutors say the “P” was Paul Manafort. Kilimnik did not respond to messages seeking comment.

The FBI said one of the public relations firm’s executives, who also is not named in the filing, told the government they “understood Manafort’s outreach to be an effort to ‘suborn perjury’ ” by encouraging others to lie to federal investigators by concealing the firm’s U.S. work.

If a judge agrees, Manafort could have his bail revoked and be forced to await trial in jail.

He goes on tax and bank fraud charges in July in Alexandria, Va.; the trial in the District on the lobbying charges is to begin in September.

Sending Manafort to jail before trial could intensify the pressure on him to reach a plea deal with prosecutors.

Patrick Cotter, a former federal prosecutor who is now in private practice in Chicago, said that if the government’s claims against Manafort are true, he is in fresh trouble.

“What’s unusual, what leaps out at me, is the degree of specificity in the allegation. Add the fact that the intended recipients of the message have stated that they believed they were being asked to lie in matters directly related to the investigation, and it suggests this is a very serious allegation against Mr. Manafort,” Cotter said.

The court filing indicates that some of the suspicious messages were recovered from cloud storage of Manafort’s phone, while others were retrieved from the phones of the two individuals, who have spoken to investigators about the contacts.

At issue is a collection of former senior European officials, informally referred to as “the Hapsburg group,” who were secretly retained in 2012 by Manafort as part of his lobbying work for Ukraine, according to prosecutors. Manafort and PR executives steered those former European officials to meetings with U.S. politicians, trying to sway the Americans to be more favorable toward the Ukrainian government, according to prosecutors.

The work preceded Manafort’s role with the Trump campaign from March to August of 2016.

The government filings comes at a key time in Manafort’s case, amid a window for any potential, last-minute plea negotiations before he is to face trials.

The filing also comes amid new signs of pressure on Manafort’s financial situation. Unnamed supporters last week announced the creation of a new legal defense fund for him. The fund’s website was initially registered in December by Bruce E. Baldinger, a New Jersey real estate lawyer who has worked for years with Manafort, according to a person familiar with the situation.