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***Official Political Discussion Thread***
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Nike Jordan
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Look at this ******* guy.
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dawg is ***** made lmao
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aepps20
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I SEE YOU COMRADE AEPPS
Had to let Libs know they AIN'T pushing us around ANYMORE
everysingletime
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I'm a nurse already. I graduated with a bachelor's degree and with that bachelor's degree I can work in any area of nursing over here but I can't function like a doctor. I can just do typical nursing stuff like assess the patient and report to the doctor, wound care, give meds, draw blood, establish IVs, trach care, etc. Theoretically, I can anyway. Most of this stuff I've never done outside of school because after graduating I went straight to psychiatry (not by choice..at the time that was the only time I could get hired)
Is prescribing any kind of medication legal by medical professionals who aren't licensed physicians legal for y'all though? Only a doctor would be able to do that here but we don't have as many nursing specializations and job titles. While not technically a nurse (we use a different term than "nursing assistant" but a literal translation wouldn't make any sense), a nursing assistant is a statute granted to students graduating in that specific specialization in highschool or alternatively after graduating the first year in nursing. This allows you to work in retirement homes, hospitals, ... and do most of the work nurses also do such as washing the patients, dressing them, measuring temperature and BP etc. but none of the traditional nursing activities such as wound care, preparing medication or even simple injections.
Virtually everyone working as a nursing assistant does the occasional injection if there is a shortage of nurses in their shift but technically those actions are illegal under the job statute of nursing assistant.
There's 2 ways to get a nursing degree, both higher education. One is a traditional bachelor's degree in nursing which takes 4 years. The alternative is a similar program called HBO5 but it's not the same as a bachelor's degree. You have virtually the same qualifications at the end of the day but an HBO5 nursing degree is only 3 years and it's a little less hard than the bachelor. With an HBO5 nursing degree you can also get your bachelors' degree through a 1 year program. In terms of what you do on the job there's no real difference, bachelor's degrees hold a higher standard in the job market of course but the job you'll be performing is the same. HBO5 education programs are also cheaper because they're generally taught in specific institutions such as a nursing school, rather than a more costly bachelor or masters in college and university. Before my health condition forced me to drop out I paid a measly tuition of rougly €225 for my first year in an HBO5 nursing program for example. A college program wouldn't be much different in terms of price but it'd be a little bit more expensive. I know that the Ghent University caps their tuition at €910/year (raised from €890/year in 2017) and that includes Masters programs in law and medicine so a college program would be less.
In your final year of you nursing education you pick a specialization (mental care, operation room, the elderly, ...) but it doesn't really give you a special title or anything. Just a nurse with a specific specialization on your resume.
I've been working as a nurse for 6, going on 7 years now. Mostly ok with my job but if I could do it all over again I would've tried to get myself at least one yr of experience in bedside care. Just to have a more well rounded nursing experience because there's a lot of stuff you do in bedside care that you don't do in psychiatry.
Anyway, I'm in graduate school now, and once I'm done and pass my exam I'll be licensed to do stuff a regular nurse can't do, but it'll be limited to psychiatry. Under this license, I can even open up practices in certain states and hire doctors, PAs and other nurses to work for me. I know of at least one person who's done that which I think is pretty cool.
everysingletime
formerly amel223
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It's funny that you mention that. I'm just starting school and they're emphasizing the need for mental health care in red states.
Your services will be need in many red states
I know a psychiatrist who has multiple clinics in red states. I think he got patients all the way out in Tennessee and Arkansas. And he also works at a NY hospital with me.
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Mueller in the cut,that's a scary sight...
It’s crazy how Seth Abrahmson is always months ahead on these stories
. He BEEN talking and showing videos of Trump openly admitting to running prior to 2013...and them setting things in motion with shady figures from that point on. His threads be wild long....but always get verified over time.
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Mr.Guy
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How do butter biscuits taste?
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Always the victims.
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Can a wild contrarian appear and tell me how both parties are the same again
aepps20
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Popeyes, the ultimate busicuits.
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Mayne , dem popeyes biscuits be dry as all hell. You better have a picture of juice with you otherwise you choking on them joints.
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kdawg
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Is prescribing any kind of medication legal by medical professionals who aren't licensed physicians legal for y'all though? Only a doctor would be able to do that here but we don't have as many nursing specializations and job titles. While not technically a nurse (we use a different term than "nursing assistant" but a literal translation wouldn't make any sense), a nursing assistant is a statute granted to students graduating in that specific specialization in highschool or alternatively after graduating the first year in nursing. This allows you to work in retirement homes, hospitals, ... and do most of the work nurses also do such as washing the patients, dressing them, measuring temperature and BP etc. but none of the traditional nursing activities such as wound care, preparing medication or even simple injections.
Virtually everyone working as a nursing assistant does the occasional injection if there is a shortage of nurses in their shift but technically those actions are illegal under the job statute of nursing assistant.
There's 2 ways to get a nursing degree, both higher education. One is a traditional bachelor's degree in nursing which takes 4 years. The alternative is a similar program called HBO5 but it's not the same as a bachelor's degree. You have virtually the same qualifications at the end of the day but an HBO5 nursing degree is only 3 years and it's a little less hard than the bachelor. With an HBO5 nursing degree you can also get your bachelors' degree through a 1 year program. In terms of what you do on the job there's no real difference, bachelor's degrees hold a higher standard in the job market of course but the job you'll be performing is the same. HBO5 education programs are also cheaper because they're generally taught in specific institutions such as a nursing school, rather than a more costly bachelor or masters in college and university. Before my health condition forced me to drop out I paid a measly tuition of rougly €225 for my first year in an HBO5 nursing program for example. A college program wouldn't be much different in terms of price but it'd be a little bit more expensive. I know that the Ghent University caps their tuition at €910/year (raised from €890/year in 2017) and that includes Masters programs in law and medicine so a college program would be less.
In your final year of you nursing education you pick a specialization (mental care, operation room, the elderly, ...) but it doesn't really give you a special title or anything. Just a nurse with a specific specialization on your resume.
I write a lot of guidance on UK legislation and one of the things I've done recently is read all the medicine acts (Henry VIII started it all and it goes from there...) and where different people get their legal "powers" from. If you are a qualified doctor that obviously gets you the ability to prescribed medicines (and do surgery etc) but there are a number of other allied health professions who also have limited prescribing powers too - e.g. a podiatrist can prescribe things for foot problems. Some of these are supplementary prescribers, some are additional supply and some are independent prescribers - the first one can only work under supervision of someone qualified (usually a doctor), the second one can do some stuff and the third is an autonomous prescriber who can work on their own annd prescribe in their area of expertise.
That's only been in existence since 1999 and then other legislation followed which allowed groups of allied health professionals to develop appropriate training - so now you get IP nurses, IP pharmacists, IP optometrists...
Mr.Guy
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KFC butter biscuits> Popeyes butter biscuits
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You going to the wrong Popeyes
also
@ "a picture of juice"
Blasphemy
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