***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[aepps20]

He's still trying to get access to his PayPal account back. Poor kid!

Nestor is just a child. He had no choice but to facilitate da meetings with kids for his “dad”

 

[dacomeup]

The only problem with Matt Gaetz was that there was too much evidence linking him to his crimes

And somehow Garland didn’t think there was enough to charge him. Puzzling

 

[trappedintime]

Nestor is just a child. He had no choice but to facilitate da meetings with kids for his “dad”

In fairness I haven't seen any reports suggesting Nestor was helping his fake dad out. Just that Gaetz was using his PayPal. Probably changed the password lol

 

[aepps20]

In fairness I haven't seen any reports suggesting Nestor was helping his fake dad out. Just that Gaetz was using his PayPal. Probably changed the password lol

I hope Nestor is innocent but I think that he’d do anything to stay on his dad’s good side

 

[trappedintime]

I hope Nestor is innocent but I think that he’d do anything to stay on his dad’s good side

I dunno man, he was 16-17 when this stuff was happening. Last thing I'm gonna do is blame some kid who got pulled out of a bad situation to get used by a monster.

 

[aepps20]

And somehow Garland didn’t think there was enough to charge him. Puzzling

Appointing Garland was Joe’s biggest mistake. You don’t get another job because you didn’t get the first job. If Joes would’ve appointed Doug Jones we might’ve won.

 

[aepps20]

I dunno man, he was 16-17 when this stuff was happening. Last thing I'm gonna do is blame some kid who got pulled out of a bad situation to get used by a monster.

I hear you but with what we’ve seen from Matt for years it wouldn’t surprise me if he used Nestor willingly or unwillingly to make the connections. Deplorables are deplorable and sometimes they get help from others.

 

[wavycrocket]

A good breakdown of a progressive person going on a trump friendly podcast
and effectively countering right wing talking points without sounding culturally out of touch.

None of these guys bring on “progressives” tho. They ONLY bring on a certain type of person from “the left”….and it’s ALWAYS “Post-Left” reactionaries that punch left, with culture wars and paint the left as the “new right”…and never say anything at all about the current dynamics of the “right”.

Outside of Stavros….they are all liars man . Especially Theo Von. I mean, look at how he was asking when Stavros pointed out the wealthiest people in the world support the right?

https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/s/9Pc8nu3o8K

Stavros kinda on point here tho.

 

[had pants]

 

[trappedintime]

I hear you but with what we’ve seen from Matt for years it wouldn’t surprise me if he used Nestor willingly or unwillingly to make the connections. Deplorables are deplorable and sometimes they get help from others.

Nah, I think what we knew even a few years ago kind of debunks that. The girls were 17 to early 20's and as the payments show and Greenberg testified... they were sharing them amongst each other.

Way too many and way too many older than a 15 year old (in 2017) Nestor to think he was making the connections for Gaetz and Greenberg IMO. One of the women who wasn't underage told the House Committee that his gf at the time (Nestor's sister) was the one who made many of the connections.

 

[Dark Brandon]

And somehow Garland didn’t think there was enough to charge him. Puzzling

Garland should’ve resigned if he thought applying the law with overwhelming evidence was outweighed by the optics of political persecution.

 

[aepps20]

Nah, I think what we knew even a few years ago kind of debunks that. The girls were 17 to early 20's and as the payments show and Greenberg testified... they were sharing them amongst each other.

Way too many and way too many older than a 15 year old (in 2017) Nestor to think he was making the connections for Gaetz and Greenberg IMO. One of the women who wasn't underage told the House Committee that his gf at the time (Nestor's sister) was the one who made many of the connections.

I hope Nestor has clean hands. At a minimum Matt was using him as cover with the PayPal

 

[Mark Antony]

None of these guys bring on “progressives” tho. They ONLY bring on a certain type of person from “the left”….and it’s ALWAYS “Post-Left” reactionaries that punch left, with culture wars and paint the left as the “new right”…and never say anything at all about the current dynamics of the “right”.

Outside of Stavros….they are all liars man . Especially Theo Von. I mean, look at how he was asking when Stavros pointed out the wealthiest people in the world support the right?

https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/s/9Pc8nu3o8K

Stavros kinda on point here tho.

Kinda funny how regularly some folks would brush off this stuff you tried to draw attention to (because imagine not knowing everything) only for it to end up being a significant component.

 

[Nike Jordan]

I'm glad NT can embed Bluesky posts now.

 

[trappedintime]

I hope Nestor has clean hands. At a minimum Matt was using him as cover with the PayPal

Which I never really understood because later on he was using his own Venmo account.

 

[aepps20]

Which I never really understood because later on he was using his own Venmo account.

This just speaks to Matt’s depravity. He has pushed Nestor out there many times to cover for him and it’s not right.

 

[biggie62]

I'm glad NT can embed Bluesky posts now.

Hell yea **** X.

 

[wavycrocket]

Kinda funny how regularly some folks would brush off this stuff you tried to draw attention to (because imagine not knowing everything) only for it to end up being a significant component.

I swear. That **** is beyond annoying .

Downplayed and ho-hum….and now look. Smh

 

[DCAllAfrican]

I assume their goal is to make the govt more efficient since it’s in the name. What’s more useless than commuting to work everyday when it’s been proven you can do a lot of your work at home?

Man distanced himself from that racist guidebook during the campaign and hired its author 2 weeks post election. I give it 18 months before trump just comes out and says this country was built by and is for white people.

1. Rent still has to be paid in these semi empty buildings. So it is inefficient if people are working from home in that sense.

2. Has it been proven the quality of work done at home is on the same level had that work been done in the office? Legit asking.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

None of these guys bring on “progressives” tho. They ONLY bring on a certain type of person from “the left”….and it’s ALWAYS “Post-Left” reactionaries that punch left, with culture wars and paint the left as the “new right”…and never say anything at all about the current dynamics of the “right”.

Outside of Stavros….they are all liars man . Especially Theo Von. I mean, look at how he was asking when Stavros pointed out the wealthiest people in the world support the right?

https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/s/9Pc8nu3o8K

Stavros kinda on point here tho.

I think you ignore progressives part in excluding themselves from those spaces.

also this at some point just becomes a no true scotsman thing. any one who is on the left who has appeared, you'll have some reason as to why they don't count.

theyll never have on progressives yet Stavros is on, bernie is on but they don't count for...reasons.

 

[gry60]

I do feel that non action will have down ballot repercussions from a left candidate who can communicate the hypocrisy and lunacy a Gaetz appointment will mean.

I don't know why people are still hanging their hopes on this or any other action that signals a deep lack of decency and respect for institutions.

Americans have made it clear that they don't care about any of this. They tune in for the last week of presidential elections, and they tune politics out for 3.9 years (or until they can no longer accumulate debt to shop, eat out, have fun, or travel).

None of these guys bring on “progressives” tho. They ONLY bring on a certain type of person from “the left”….and it’s ALWAYS “Post-Left” reactionaries that punch left, with culture wars and paint the left as the “new right”…and never say anything at all about the current dynamics of the “right”.

In his time, FDR was a progressive: he curtailed the power of robber barons and put together a set of laws that jumpstarted middle class wealth. His policies still left the black underclass behind: social security wasn't available to farm workers and house workers, categories that had an overrepresentation of black workers. It wasn't until the 1970s that Black folks were able to share in the progressive policies of FDR.

That's what I think about when I hear all the talk about moving socially to the right. Somebody's gonna pay for this two-tiered progress, and the first to go will be the folks who came last to the table. I don't know a single woke person who would be ok with that.

 

[Nike Jordan]

 

[gry60]

1. Rent still has to be paid in these semi empty buildings. So it is inefficient if people are working from home in that sense.

Why is it that the masses have to bear the brunt of innovation, but those wealthy enough to own office buildings should be protected?

Why are the captains of industry scared of capitalism?

2. Has it been proven the quality of work done at home is on the same level had that work been done in the office? Legit asking.

Working From Home Is Powering Productivity

A fivefold increase in remote work since the pandemic could boost economic growth and bring wider benefits

www.imf.org

I don't know if it needs to be mentioned, but the IMF is not exactly socialist...

Productivity​

Classic firm and individual micro studies typically find that hybrid work, the usual pattern for about 30 percent of the US, European, and Asian labor forces, has a roughly flat impact on productivity. WFH benefits workers by saving them from exhausting commutes and typically provides a quieter working environment. But by reducing time at the office, it can also reduce employees’ ability to learn, to innovate, and to communicate. These positive and negative effects roughly offset each other, generating no net productivity impact of hybrid WFH, research suggests.

The impact of fully remote working, which has been adopted by about 10 percent of employees, is highly dependent on how well it’s managed. Some studies that examined fully remote working during the early days of the pandemic found large negative impacts, potentially because of the chaos of the early lockdowns. Other studies found large positive impacts, typically in more self-directed activities, such as call center or data entry work with well-managed firms.

In summary, the impact of fully remote work is perhaps neutral, because firms tend to adopt it only when such work arrangements match the work activity—often tasks such as coding or IT support, carried out by trained employees in a managed environment. But while the micro productivity impacts on any individual firm may be neutral, the huge power of labor market inclusion means that the aggregate macro impact is likely to be positive.

 

[gry60]

Brazil’s former president Jair Bolsonaro charged with plotting coup d’état

Police accuse 37 people of crimes including conspiracy and trying to tear down one of world’s largest democracies

www.theguardian.com

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Why is it that the masses have to bear the brunt of innovation, but those wealthy enough to own office buildings should be protected?

Why are the captains of industry scared of capitalism?

I'm just explaining how/why allowing folks to work from home can be viewed as an inefficient practice from the perspective of those that have to pay the rent. Nothing futher.