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Not national, but an absolutely absurd story from the Seattle City Council. A NIMBY council member wanted $2 million to remove a dividing curb that prevented cars from making left turns into his son's private school driveway. The city council approved it today. Literally, $2 million thrown at a non-existent problem because of ONE guy.

 
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It was the result of having multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically, in their preaching — "turn the other cheek" — [and] to have someone come up after to say, "Where did you get those liberal talking points?" And what was alarming to me is that in most of these scenarios, when the pastor would say, "I'm literally quoting Jesus Christ," the response would not be, "I apologize." The response would be, "Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak."
 


I mean at this point why the hell not :rollin

Would be right in line with the apparent criteria

"Dear President elect, EYE think you and I have a few things in common: first of all we both ugly as ****. Second, we both instrumental, heck essential even, on keeping the American wig industry booming. Third, and most importantly, you had to fight Kamala when I had to fight THAT ***** CAROLE BASKINS...."
 


I've been thinking about this a lot the last few days - I'm having real trouble with a lot of this right wing "muscular" Christianity nonsense - and I remember a lot of that starting to pervade in the church when I was younger - the one my parents still go to, where the pastor made some antivax comments in 2020 and all that sort of stuff. I understand following a philosopy/belief system - but when the core teachings are in opposition to what they're saying that makes no sense to me.
 


progressives donors just need to stop funding groups like the Sunrise Movement.

they do nothing positive.
 
Southern evangelical Church goer here. Not all churches are this bad. A lot of them got really weird from 2016-2020. I have found in my experiences that the people that are usually the loudest on social media about this type of stuff are not usually in church on Sunday morning, even the politicians.


White church =/= black church

Wish there was a way to differentiate because both get lumped into Christianity and they are very different. Politically too.
 
White church =/= black church

Wish there was a way to differentiate because both get lumped into Christianity and they are very different. Politically too.

That’s too generalized as well. As someone who grew up Catholic. There was a difference of when I went to a Polish church in Brooklyn as a kid and then attending a Jesuit run HS and when we had homilies done by Jesuits and how we were taught religion.

The church attendance as a child soured me so much towards religion that I stopped caring and was basically non practicing by the time I reached HS. Jesuits are progressive and accepting so it was just different. They didn’t scream or scolded you during mass.
 
White church =/= black church

Wish there was a way to differentiate because both get lumped into Christianity and they are very different. Politically too.
I think one of my early political awakenings happened because of this difference. I remember as a kid growing up in the church we would visit different church’s a lot typical bridge building getting to know other community stuff etc etc. but visiting the white churches the vibes was always off. Mainly in two aspects.

One the singing/song leading. Let’s just say I couldn’t rock wit it.

But the big one that was even super noticeable as a kid was the way societal stuff was discussed. Black churches including the one I grew up in the sermons were detailed and would regularly discuss race, politics and Americas fault often that wasn’t just “gay people bad” . White churches we would visit they sermons and lessons always felt so vague and like they weren’t talking about anything and I never once heard them discuss race or politics. It was just vauge metaphors barely even talking about scripture. This was just my experience and what I saw I’m sure it varies depending on what kinds churches non denominational vs denominational evangelical etc but that always stood out to me.
 
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That’s too generalized as well. As someone who grew up Catholic. There was a difference of when I went to a Polish church in Brooklyn as a kid and then attending a Jesuit run HS and when we had homilies done by Jesuits and how we were taught religion.

The church attendance as a child soured me so much towards religion that I stopped caring and was basically non practicing by the time I reached HS. Jesuits are progressive and accepting so it was just different. They didn’t scream or scolded you during mass.

True, I agree with this as well. It's honestly a subject that would take pages to really dive into so I left my post short.

I just see very often with mainstream media that all Christians have been lumped with the right wing bible thumping extremists because they're the loudest and most obnoxious minority.

I think one of my early political awakenings happened because of this difference. I remember as a kid growing up in the church we would visit different church’s a lot typical bridge building getting to know other community stuff etc etc. but visiting the white churches the vibes was always off. Mainly in two aspects.

One the singing/song leading. Let’s just say I couldn’t rock wit it.

But the big one that was even super noticeable as a kid was the way societal stuff was discussed. Black churches including the one I grew up in the sermons were detailed and would regularly discuss race, politics and Americas fault often that wasn’t just “gay people bad” . White churches we would visit they sermons and lessons always felt so vague and like they weren’t talking about anything and I never once heard them discuss race or politics. It was just vauge metaphors barely even talking about scripture. This was just my experience and what I saw I’m sure it varies depending on what kinds churches non denominational vs denominational evangelical etc but that always stood out to me.

I grew up in the church the vast majority of my childhood, specifically the black church in the south and acceptance was a huge part. To aepps20 aepps20 point we had a lot of elders who lived through the civil rights era. So race was discussed, we had openly gay active members of the church, people had children out of wedlock. So my reaction to leaving my hometown for undergrad and then realizing people have a negative connotation of Christians being intolerant was mind opening to me. From my experience the people I grew up with and knew from the Church were some of the kindest most welcoming people I had ever met in my life.

I had seen the church raise money for mothers who needed it, go to nursing homes to spend time with the elderly, run summer camps for underprivileged kids in the community so they could go places and experience things they wouldn't otherwise. It just threw me off seeing someone on campus waving a bible and telling people they were going to h***.

But that was me at 18, and now 10 years later I know that people will take religion and use it as a weapon to spread their own bigotry and hatred. Coward behavior to say the least.
 
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