Official NFL Free Agency + Trades vol. It's Time.

[Deleted member 37754]

Originally Posted by DaJoka004

Originally Posted by Statis22

If the union decertifies as a poster said the union will file a lawsuit against the NFL, and the judge will rule in their favor. And then the owners will appeal the rulings. And rinse and repeat.

Weeks will turn into months and millions of revenue not generated.

If this goes down then there might not be football till Halloween.

The NFL knows they won't win though. Which is why this will come to an end sooner than everyone thinks. Doty has been ruling in favor of the players for almost two decades now. The TV ruling proved that he's still in favor of the players.

she has... and they will file an appeal. and they will try and get it moved because of that fact.
which they probably will win. Then the players union will file an appeal on that. It will be a very long time until that little nugget is settled.
i really hope a light bulb goes off and this is done fast tho.
wishful thinking. i know.
i just want to talk about trades, FA signings, the draft, the dolphins and just football in general.

 

[Deleted member 37754]

Originally Posted by DaJoka004

Originally Posted by Statis22

If the union decertifies as a poster said the union will file a lawsuit against the NFL, and the judge will rule in their favor. And then the owners will appeal the rulings. And rinse and repeat.

Weeks will turn into months and millions of revenue not generated.

If this goes down then there might not be football till Halloween.

The NFL knows they won't win though. Which is why this will come to an end sooner than everyone thinks. Doty has been ruling in favor of the players for almost two decades now. The TV ruling proved that he's still in favor of the players.

she has... and they will file an appeal. and they will try and get it moved because of that fact.
which they probably will win. Then the players union will file an appeal on that. It will be a very long time until that little nugget is settled.
i really hope a light bulb goes off and this is done fast tho.
wishful thinking. i know.
i just want to talk about trades, FA signings, the draft, the dolphins and just football in general.

 

[dajoka004]

We'll see if anything changes, it always could, but De Smith told players during his conference call the plan is to decertify.
From Schefter.

Peter King of Sports Illustrated has been spending his time in Washington, along with the horde of media covering the labor negotiations.  And with Peter presumably working the phone line and the text messages and the e-mails non-stop, like I saw him do during every Sunday of the 2010 football season, it’s no surprise that he’s in position to provide some inside details about how things could play out.

King reports that, if the players choose to decertify and sue, the new league year — along with free agency — could begin by the middle of April.

The process would commence with a decertified union asking Judge David Doty, who presides over the CBA that arose from the settlement agreement reached in the ’90s-era antitrust lawsuit, to block the league from locking out a non-union workforce.

Writes King:  “If Doty granted injunctive relief, he could likely rule that the league’s last work rules were still applicable, or he could simply allow the NFL to institute a set of rules of its choosing.  But it’s a virtual certainty the NFL would appeal the injunction. . . .  If the injunction survived the appeal process, the 2011 league year would start and the rules would include free agency and the ability to trade players.

 

[dajoka004]

We'll see if anything changes, it always could, but De Smith told players during his conference call the plan is to decertify.
From Schefter.

Peter King of Sports Illustrated has been spending his time in Washington, along with the horde of media covering the labor negotiations.  And with Peter presumably working the phone line and the text messages and the e-mails non-stop, like I saw him do during every Sunday of the 2010 football season, it’s no surprise that he’s in position to provide some inside details about how things could play out.

King reports that, if the players choose to decertify and sue, the new league year — along with free agency — could begin by the middle of April.

The process would commence with a decertified union asking Judge David Doty, who presides over the CBA that arose from the settlement agreement reached in the ’90s-era antitrust lawsuit, to block the league from locking out a non-union workforce.

Writes King:  “If Doty granted injunctive relief, he could likely rule that the league’s last work rules were still applicable, or he could simply allow the NFL to institute a set of rules of its choosing.  But it’s a virtual certainty the NFL would appeal the injunction. . . .  If the injunction survived the appeal process, the 2011 league year would start and the rules would include free agency and the ability to trade players.

 

[Deleted member 37754]

real good find. i like the sound of that.

middle of april is nice as well... hopefully if nothing gets done today then that IS the case.

 

[Deleted member 37754]

real good find. i like the sound of that.

middle of april is nice as well... hopefully if nothing gets done today then that IS the case.

 

[dajoka004]

Union de-certifies.

Owners can't lock the players out now without violating the anti-trust laws. Hopefully FA starts soon.

 

[dajoka004]

Union de-certifies.

Owners can't lock the players out now without violating the anti-trust laws. Hopefully FA starts soon.

 

[Deleted member 37754]

^ This.

See you guys in a couple weeks or random NFLPA + CBA news.

 

[Deleted member 37754]

^ This.

See you guys in a couple weeks or random NFLPA + CBA news.

 

[beatjunkie5]

[h1][/h1]

[h1]NFL labor: Next season would be played without salary cap if lockout is lifted[/h1]
Next season almost certainly would be played without a salary cap if NFL players succeed in their attempt to lift the lockout put in place by team owners.

Players are seeking an injunction in federal court in Minneapolis to try to lift the lockout, which went into effect Saturday after labor talks between the league and union collapsed Friday. Players decertified their union Friday and filed a 52-page antitrust lawsuit against the owners.

If that injunction request by the players is granted, the sport would reopen for business and the league would have to put work rules in place. Sources from throughout the sport on both sides of the dispute said over the weekend that the system the league would enact at that point would be very likely to be the same system that was in effect last season, when there was no salary cap in the final year of the just-expired labor agreement between the NFL and the players’ union.

That would mean there would be no player-payroll maximum or minimum for NFL teams. Players with expired contracts would need six years of NFL service time to be eligible for unrestricted free agency, rather than the four seasons required when the salary cap system was in effect; players with expired contracts and three to five seasons of NFL experience would be restricted free agents. Each team would have an extra transition-player tag, in addition to the one franchise-player or transition-player designation allowed per club under the salary cap system, to restrict players’ movement in free agency, and there would be limits on the free agent activity of last season’s final eight playoff teams.

The reason that system would be used, sources said, is that it might have a better chance of withstanding an antitrust challenge by the players, given that the union previously agreed to those rules for an uncapped year in collective bargaining. Attorneys for the players’ side have said they would challenge in court any rules put in place by the league if the lockout is lifted.

Those on the players’ side said Friday they expected a ruling to be made on their request for an injunction within three to four weeks. If the request is granted, the league could appeal to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit. So it would be possible for the lockout to be lifted by an injunction, putting the sport back in operation, and then restored on appeal, shutting things down again.

As long as the lockout remains in effect, teams cannot sign players to contracts or trade players. Coaches are prohibited from having contact with players and the sport’s drug-testing program is not in effect. Players would not be paid next season if the lockout remains in effect.

 

[beatjunkie5]

[h1][/h1]

[h1]NFL labor: Next season would be played without salary cap if lockout is lifted[/h1]
Next season almost certainly would be played without a salary cap if NFL players succeed in their attempt to lift the lockout put in place by team owners.

Players are seeking an injunction in federal court in Minneapolis to try to lift the lockout, which went into effect Saturday after labor talks between the league and union collapsed Friday. Players decertified their union Friday and filed a 52-page antitrust lawsuit against the owners.

If that injunction request by the players is granted, the sport would reopen for business and the league would have to put work rules in place. Sources from throughout the sport on both sides of the dispute said over the weekend that the system the league would enact at that point would be very likely to be the same system that was in effect last season, when there was no salary cap in the final year of the just-expired labor agreement between the NFL and the players’ union.

That would mean there would be no player-payroll maximum or minimum for NFL teams. Players with expired contracts would need six years of NFL service time to be eligible for unrestricted free agency, rather than the four seasons required when the salary cap system was in effect; players with expired contracts and three to five seasons of NFL experience would be restricted free agents. Each team would have an extra transition-player tag, in addition to the one franchise-player or transition-player designation allowed per club under the salary cap system, to restrict players’ movement in free agency, and there would be limits on the free agent activity of last season’s final eight playoff teams.

The reason that system would be used, sources said, is that it might have a better chance of withstanding an antitrust challenge by the players, given that the union previously agreed to those rules for an uncapped year in collective bargaining. Attorneys for the players’ side have said they would challenge in court any rules put in place by the league if the lockout is lifted.

Those on the players’ side said Friday they expected a ruling to be made on their request for an injunction within three to four weeks. If the request is granted, the league could appeal to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit. So it would be possible for the lockout to be lifted by an injunction, putting the sport back in operation, and then restored on appeal, shutting things down again.

As long as the lockout remains in effect, teams cannot sign players to contracts or trade players. Coaches are prohibited from having contact with players and the sport’s drug-testing program is not in effect. Players would not be paid next season if the lockout remains in effect.

 

[651akathepaul]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/15/adrian-peterson-slavery-nfl_n_836090.html

Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson made some controversial comments about the NFL labor situation in an interview with Doug Farrar of Yahoo's Shutdown Corner. The interview was conducted just before the NFLPA decertified.

"It's modern-day slavery, you know? People kind of laugh at that, but there are people working at regular jobs who get treated the same way, too. With all the money," Peterson continued. "The owners are trying to get a different percentage, and bring in more money."

 Apparently, these comments are causing a big stir. It really shouldn't be.


On another note: Josh Freeman has gathered some teammates together to get some practice in, despite what's going on. This kid continues to impress. Very encouraging to see.

 

[651akathepaul]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/15/adrian-peterson-slavery-nfl_n_836090.html

Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson made some controversial comments about the NFL labor situation in an interview with Doug Farrar of Yahoo's Shutdown Corner. The interview was conducted just before the NFLPA decertified.

"It's modern-day slavery, you know? People kind of laugh at that, but there are people working at regular jobs who get treated the same way, too. With all the money," Peterson continued. "The owners are trying to get a different percentage, and bring in more money."

 Apparently, these comments are causing a big stir. It really shouldn't be.


On another note: Josh Freeman has gathered some teammates together to get some practice in, despite what's going on. This kid continues to impress. Very encouraging to see.

 

[Deleted member 37754]

Originally Posted by 651akathePaul



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/15/adrian-peterson-slavery-nfl_n_836090.html

Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson made some controversial comments about the NFL labor situation in an interview with Doug Farrar of Yahoo's Shutdown Corner. The interview was conducted just before the NFLPA decertified.

"It's modern-day slavery, you know? People kind of laugh at that, but there are people working at regular jobs who get treated the same way, too. With all the money," Peterson continued. "The owners are trying to get a different percentage, and bring in more money."

 Apparently, these comments are causing a big stir. It really shouldn't be.


On another note: Josh Freeman has gathered some teammates together to get some practice in, despite what's going on. This kid continues to impress. Very encouraging to see.

To say something like the NFL, having Billions of dollars in income, and playing a game for a living is comparable to Slavery or Modern Day Slavery when people aren't able to afford a simple apartment + food is a big deal. He needs a better vocabulary to articulate what he is trying to say, i refuse to believe he is that stupid.

and Josh Freeman IS a monster. I like that kid (and team) a lot. They've done everything right. basterds.

 

[Deleted member 37754]

Originally Posted by 651akathePaul



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/15/adrian-peterson-slavery-nfl_n_836090.html

Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson made some controversial comments about the NFL labor situation in an interview with Doug Farrar of Yahoo's Shutdown Corner. The interview was conducted just before the NFLPA decertified.

"It's modern-day slavery, you know? People kind of laugh at that, but there are people working at regular jobs who get treated the same way, too. With all the money," Peterson continued. "The owners are trying to get a different percentage, and bring in more money."

 Apparently, these comments are causing a big stir. It really shouldn't be.


On another note: Josh Freeman has gathered some teammates together to get some practice in, despite what's going on. This kid continues to impress. Very encouraging to see.

To say something like the NFL, having Billions of dollars in income, and playing a game for a living is comparable to Slavery or Modern Day Slavery when people aren't able to afford a simple apartment + food is a big deal. He needs a better vocabulary to articulate what he is trying to say, i refuse to believe he is that stupid.

and Josh Freeman IS a monster. I like that kid (and team) a lot. They've done everything right. basterds.

 

[koolbarbone]

Professional sports has been drawing comparisons to slavery for years from journalists and scholars. Peterson is definitely not the first one to refer to it in those terms.

 

[koolbarbone]

Professional sports has been drawing comparisons to slavery for years from journalists and scholars. Peterson is definitely not the first one to refer to it in those terms.

 

[651akathepaul]

I just don't think it's that serious.

 

[651akathepaul]

I just don't think it's that serious.

 

[Deleted member 37754]

^ it has been. and to compare sports (in general) to slavery is beyond ignorant. you can make better comparisons elsewhere.

Is the actual saying a big deal, yes. Is it because it came from Him, no. Coulda been anyone, writer, athlete, etc. If a Slave came out, Played in the NFL and said "Damn... this is exactly the same!".... by all means. come on now. It was just really stupid to bring up imo. [color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]Speak your mind, say how this sucks. Give better comparisons. That's just mad ignorant on anyone's behalf.[/color]
It's like giving reference to Hitler, Holocaust, etc. When things are being referenced to those situations then people go ape sh--, why is that any more important or significant? because it was more recent? i don't get it. people apparently don't either.

in two days or so it won't even matter, no one will remember. so any conversation on this topic is insignificant. sad to say.

 

[Deleted member 37754]

^ it has been. and to compare sports (in general) to slavery is beyond ignorant. you can make better comparisons elsewhere.

Is the actual saying a big deal, yes. Is it because it came from Him, no. Coulda been anyone, writer, athlete, etc. If a Slave came out, Played in the NFL and said "Damn... this is exactly the same!".... by all means. come on now. It was just really stupid to bring up imo. [color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]Speak your mind, say how this sucks. Give better comparisons. That's just mad ignorant on anyone's behalf.[/color]
It's like giving reference to Hitler, Holocaust, etc. When things are being referenced to those situations then people go ape sh--, why is that any more important or significant? because it was more recent? i don't get it. people apparently don't either.

in two days or so it won't even matter, no one will remember. so any conversation on this topic is insignificant. sad to say.

 

[mjm2zk]

Is there any news about where Nnamdi Asomugha is leaning towards?

 

[mjm2zk]

Is there any news about where Nnamdi Asomugha is leaning towards?

 

[Deleted member 37754]

There isn't any news on anything other than what i've said on here before. It'll be the same teams and all.

Until there's a new CBA.... pretty much man there isn't gonna be any real news on FA. sad days.
hopefully it'll be resolved soon.