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and eddy curry had the audacity last season to say if isiah goes i go, like he can lead this team to a championship
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I honestly dont think it was the players fault as much as it was Isiahs'. But at the same time you got to look at it in another perspective. The Knicksjust didn't play hard as a collective group. They need to work together, and play some defense. I don't want to say we need to trade everyone away,because i honestly believe we have some good talent here. We just need to learn how to win ball games and play defense as a core group.
Isiah is def not the ideal coach, Dolan needs a wake up call and fire Isiah. Dude just doesn't know how to coach the right way. Even when he got thepacers to the Playoff's, that only because they had a good core of players who knew how to play defense, and win ball games. We don't. I don't wantto put the blame on Dolan because he isn't the man running the knicks. He doesn't know anything about this game. Dude just wants to win games.
The only person who can save us now, is a Colangelo brother, or even Kiki Vanderweigh. We need someone who can actually manage this team.
If only we can bring in Chuck Daly or Paul Silas....any real coaches out there. If not, can we all say.........."1st round lottery pick"?
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^^HAHAAHA Right now thats a 2 for 1 bargain.
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Originally Posted by Woodside718
and eddy curry had the audacity last season to say if isiah goes i go, like he can lead this team to a championship
that was last year when we are actually playing well until crawford an lee had those season crushing injuries
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^^^Curry wasnt doing #%#% anyway. Yalls were overating him cause Lee was being a beast and making up for his lack of rebounds. And offensively he was scoring,but our MVPs were Marbury and Crawford like they always are when we win. As most of yalls know i never rode on this !%%% bandwagon. He is a soft +*!!$ andalways has been. I wanted to trade him in the offseason while his value was sky high like we should have done with Channing Frye after his rookie year, butright now it may be to late to get that same value. I still think we can get Artest thoguh because the Kings are looking to go young and rebuild and Artest isa newsance.
EDIT: THAT T IS A COP. I like that one better than the other one, can i buy one. Cause i will if hes not fired within the week. BTW its been narly 2 hours andstill no signs that Isiah is fired.
EDIT: THAT T IS A COP. I like that one better than the other one, can i buy one. Cause i will if hes not fired within the week. BTW its been narly 2 hours andstill no signs that Isiah is fired.
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im saying a guy like curry should not be making those kind of demands
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I'm baffled, I dont even know what to say.
COPPPPPPPPPED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
COPPPPPPPPPED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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tmh88
Banned
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LOL i guess this isnt a good day to be a knicks fan
@ the knicks fan for throwing away his jersey
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^i need that as a gif asap
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TNT just clowned Isiah! Some get a screen cap asap!
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we were supposed to lose this game. i was on the verge of giving up. however if we lose tomorrow, it's a rizzy.
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kenny the jet is right. the nba needs nyc to have a good team if it wants to have more presence & market share. this ain't helping one bit
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I expect Stern to intervene in 3,2,.................
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if we lose tommorow its a wrap, we need a roster change and/or a mgmt/coaching change
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knicks nba.com website still didn't update, they don't know what to put as the headline
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lol i dont blame em.
i FEEL for their PR rep right now. dude must have the alcohol on standby
i FEEL for their PR rep right now. dude must have the alcohol on standby
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Originally Posted by Woodside718
^i need that as a gif asap
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Word up. I'ma start calling them the NY Angolans.
NY Angolans
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what an embarassment....
i think we should make some kind of protest where no one shows up to the games
thatll show em something needs to change
i think we should make some kind of protest where no one shows up to the games
thatll show em something needs to change
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man this roster has to be revamped, because if you just fire Isiah and expect everything to be fine and dandy, you're mistaken...theses player's willjust become another coach's problem.....
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Originally Posted by dyyhard
Word up. I'ma start calling them the NY Angolans.
NY Angolans
Son, earlier I googled "Angolan" to look for a pic to PS a Knicks jersey and I found this:
The caption said "Angolan girls in London".
I just pray that I haven't posted some underage beast-material.
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You are right but the sad thing is fans are not organized enough to do this and its a shame
I seriously just got in and saw the score. What the hell?! I am embarrassed.....did these guys even want to play?! Did they want to beat this team??? Losing by double digits is one thing....even losing by 20...but by almost 50!!!! Where is the heart on this team?!
I seriously do not know if I can watch the game tomorrow but I know I will have to because I have to for work. I am so disgusted right now!!! Someone tell mewhere to order/cop that Losing Isiah T-Shirt ASAP!!!
Aiyo GR8.....Post a sick%@!* rant...im in an angry reading mood after seeing the boxscore!
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I'll be serious now since I was getting on the knicks before with their bad play.
The Knicks have not changed since Scott Layden left. Sure the players have gotten dealt and Isiah was able to correct the contracts of Eisley, Anderson, andPenny Hardaway but he has stuck to the same formula that layden did.
I mentioned to friends of mine that are huge Knick fans that the only thing Isiah knows how to do is draft players. Lee, Robinson, and Frye were good draftpicks for Isiah and then to prove many wrong about balkman who was a good player (not an all star quality player but good). He signed Randolph Morris anddrafted chandler who may be good but these two guys need the time. If he was an advisor for a team during draft night I am all for it but to put a teamtogether and run it, no.
He made supid decisions like signing Jerome "my toes hurt so I am not playing" James to 31 mil for 4 or 5 years. He then adds players with hugecontracts that people thought would be all star quality but turned to be role players. ( unlike layden who signed known role players to max contracts)
Zach Randolph - Good move, if you had a big man that could rebound the basketball consistantly and did you know that he doesn't pass the ball back out inthe post even when he is doubled up? Not good for a team that doesn't mesh well.
Eddy Curry - I would love to have Curry on the nets but he is overhyped as a go to guy. He played extremely well at the end of the year last year but hedoesn't have that will to play like he did last year. Also, randolph and his shooting prefences doesn't help curry and his offense.
David Lee - Does Isiah know that he is still on the team? This man's minutes shouldn't be cut to have Randolph fight over the ball with Marbury. Herebounds, He hustles, and He plays defense. I just Scratch my head over this one. He was great last year and now, zeke doesn't even use him right anymore.
Nate Robinson - I never really liked nate but I have grown to like his play and he has grown up somewhat since last year. (As a Nets fan I still think he isbum, but I respect him now)
Quentin Richardson - Zeke should watch games from when he played in phoenix and how they used him. I know his back has bothered him but set him up in thecorners for threes and he will hit them.
Stephon Marbury - I agree with the gr8 that he wants to win, I agree that he shouldn't take the blame. He is still the face of the team but he can' tbe the go to guy. With that said they went to Curry and now, with his head somewhere else, they are depending on starbury not marbury. He has been give thecancer title because of his non success but if he was with say KG, DIRK, LEBRON he would thrive with them.
Jamal Crawford - no Knick fan can ever say that they did not boo this man or did not want him traded. They make changes to the roster they try to change thescoring and this man is still one of your top scorers and plays hard. He takes the criticism better than anyone on the team and still comes to work ready toplay. He isn't a problem on this team. Him and lee are the only ones that I would not want to trade in any big trade.
The rest of the role players on the team (Rose,Jones,Jefferies,Morris,Chandler, James) are hit or miss on any night because they are sent out there to docertain jobs so I am not discussing them.
This team needs to let the contracts run out and start fresh. Trading three dumb contracts to pickup one possibly good dumb contract can't be attemptedanymore. You still would have a couple of bad years but it would turn for the better.
New York deserves a good team ( the Nets are coming to Brooklyn. Just Kidding.) and the garden faithful deserve much better.
The Knicks have not changed since Scott Layden left. Sure the players have gotten dealt and Isiah was able to correct the contracts of Eisley, Anderson, andPenny Hardaway but he has stuck to the same formula that layden did.
I mentioned to friends of mine that are huge Knick fans that the only thing Isiah knows how to do is draft players. Lee, Robinson, and Frye were good draftpicks for Isiah and then to prove many wrong about balkman who was a good player (not an all star quality player but good). He signed Randolph Morris anddrafted chandler who may be good but these two guys need the time. If he was an advisor for a team during draft night I am all for it but to put a teamtogether and run it, no.
He made supid decisions like signing Jerome "my toes hurt so I am not playing" James to 31 mil for 4 or 5 years. He then adds players with hugecontracts that people thought would be all star quality but turned to be role players. ( unlike layden who signed known role players to max contracts)
Zach Randolph - Good move, if you had a big man that could rebound the basketball consistantly and did you know that he doesn't pass the ball back out inthe post even when he is doubled up? Not good for a team that doesn't mesh well.
Eddy Curry - I would love to have Curry on the nets but he is overhyped as a go to guy. He played extremely well at the end of the year last year but hedoesn't have that will to play like he did last year. Also, randolph and his shooting prefences doesn't help curry and his offense.
David Lee - Does Isiah know that he is still on the team? This man's minutes shouldn't be cut to have Randolph fight over the ball with Marbury. Herebounds, He hustles, and He plays defense. I just Scratch my head over this one. He was great last year and now, zeke doesn't even use him right anymore.
Nate Robinson - I never really liked nate but I have grown to like his play and he has grown up somewhat since last year. (As a Nets fan I still think he isbum, but I respect him now)
Quentin Richardson - Zeke should watch games from when he played in phoenix and how they used him. I know his back has bothered him but set him up in thecorners for threes and he will hit them.
Stephon Marbury - I agree with the gr8 that he wants to win, I agree that he shouldn't take the blame. He is still the face of the team but he can' tbe the go to guy. With that said they went to Curry and now, with his head somewhere else, they are depending on starbury not marbury. He has been give thecancer title because of his non success but if he was with say KG, DIRK, LEBRON he would thrive with them.
Jamal Crawford - no Knick fan can ever say that they did not boo this man or did not want him traded. They make changes to the roster they try to change thescoring and this man is still one of your top scorers and plays hard. He takes the criticism better than anyone on the team and still comes to work ready toplay. He isn't a problem on this team. Him and lee are the only ones that I would not want to trade in any big trade.
The rest of the role players on the team (Rose,Jones,Jefferies,Morris,Chandler, James) are hit or miss on any night because they are sent out there to docertain jobs so I am not discussing them.
This team needs to let the contracts run out and start fresh. Trading three dumb contracts to pickup one possibly good dumb contract can't be attemptedanymore. You still would have a couple of bad years but it would turn for the better.
New York deserves a good team ( the Nets are coming to Brooklyn. Just Kidding.) and the garden faithful deserve much better.
