Yeah I only have the ugly pair of Horween 998's, the ones from the first run with the hideous yellow "piping" on the back of the leather. But i can confirm they are AMAZING quality (also no problems with creasing, though my shoes always have shoe trees in them when off my feet). I got them for $54 at my local outlet (originally retailed for $400 mind you). This quality, for that price, is something to behold. I will hopefully be scooping these, much better looking, Horween 998's at a large discount sometime in the near future. If you are even a halfway serious NB head, and don't own a pair of all Horween sneakers, do yourself a favor and buy some soon. (at a large discount of course).