Official NBA 2012-2013 Season Thread

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Lebron is a great passer yes....but its easier to find an open man when you drive if you are 6'8 270 with a 40inch vert. He gets alot of common sense assists.  The defense has to react and collapse when he puts it on the floor.  Point guards like Nash, Cp3, Rondo don't have that luxury. 
when I watch CP3 play he makes a lot of those "common sense" passes. I mean he's a great player but I've never been blown away by his pg skills. Nash is crafty as hell with his. Rondo too but he passes so often he's bound to get dimes. Lebron would drop dimes even if he was 6'0
 
I could have sworn the Pistons had the worst attendance in the league. The article about Drummond that was posted today mentions it in paragraph one. "the pistons have a 60% attendance rate, by far the worst in the league" or something to that effect
http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance
Percetage wise theyre last
Zyzz, the Pistons are the emptiest arena in the league. Look at percentage. It's 61% attended. The Kings are 76% attended. The raw # (13,226 vs 13,531) is irrelevant to that fact because of arena capacity.

Oh yea, y'all were talking about John Wall
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they arent last, last is having a 30 next to your name.
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Mad respect to the one and only, King James!
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They had that waiting in the wings
Went to tonight game. Was dope.
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I can only imagine. Good effort Memphis
 
Can't belive it's been 10 years since the king was crowned :wow:





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Just curious, how do they go about shooting those types of commercials? Kinda awkward that they have to get the teams involved. Also, did the crowd cooperate for an opposing players commercial or was it some type of cgi.
 
KD is at 11,000 at 24 years old. 

He's got 4 years to score 9,000+ plus points. He needs to put up 27+ per game for the next 4 years to get the record.
 
With where his birthday falls compared to LeBron - KD would have to play in every single game from now until the final game of the 2015-2016 season and average 31 a game. Probably not going to happen.
 
Will Kevin Durant Get to 20,000 Points Faster Than LeBron James?

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All it took was a pull-up jumper in the lane against the Golden State Warriors to etch LeBron James' name into the NBA's history books.

Well, that and thousands of jump shots, dunks, layups and post-ups in the 725 games in nine-and-a-half seasons leading up to it.

That shot officially made James the youngest player in league history to join the 20,000-Point Club. At 28 years and 17 days, LeBron accomplished the statistical feat more than a year faster than did Kobe Bryant, the previous record-holder, who was 29 years and 122 days when he scored his 20,000th point.

But as impressive as James' latest milestone may be (achieved on a night when he also collected his 5,000th career assist), he'd do well to cherish his distinction while he can.

That is, if Kevin Durant has anything to say about it.

Durant dropped a relatively modest 20 points (on an efficient 7-of-12 shooting) to lead the Oklahoma City Thunder to a 117-97 thumping of the Denver Nuggets on January 16th. That brought his career scoring total to 11,078 points at the tender age of 24 years and 110 days. Durant eclipsed the 10,000-point plateau earlier this season, but, in that regard, still stands behind LeBron, who hit the mark when he was 23 years and 59 days old.

Much of LeBron's advantage here can be attributed to the age at which he entered the NBA. James went pro straight out of high school and debuted about two months before his 19th birthday. Durant, on the other hand, spent a year at Texas on account of a rule instituted by the league in 2005 that prohibits the entry of players into the NBA Draft who aren't yet 19 and/or aren't at least a year removed from high school graduation.

As a result, Durant didn't play his first regular-season NBA game until about a monthafter  his 19th birthday. That put Kevin about three months behind LeBron's eight-ball from the moment he started, even though Durant probably would've been ready to fill it up had he been allowed into the draft straight out of Montrose  Christian School after his senior year.

Still, even that disparity in time can't completely account for LeBron's edge in scoring over Durant at the same age.

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Notice how the lines for each level off a bit as they approach and pass the age of 24. That indicates that each player started slowing down a bit, at least as far as scoring is concerned, after peaking around the age of 21.

But, in LeBron's case, he went from scoring a career-high 31.4 points per game during his age-21 season, down to 27.3 points during his age-22 season and back up to 30 points per game during his age-23 season. Durant, on the other hand, topped out at 30.1 points at the age of 21, dipped to 27.7 points at the age of 22 and practically duplicated that number (28 points) at the age of 23.

In that frame, then, it seems unlikely that Durant will be able to score his 20,000th point at a younger age than did James. 

That is, until you expand the picture a bit to 28 years and 17 days (i.e. LeBron's current age).

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Durant's case in the graph above is held back by the fact that his age-23 season came during the lockout-shortened season, while James' came during a regular, 82-game campaign.

For the sake of discussion, let's assume that KD  continues to score at a clip of just under 29 points per game—his average between the 2009-10 and 2010-11 seasons (his last two 82-game seasons) and barely ahead of his current 28.7 point-per-game average in 2012-13. That equates to approximately 2,317 points per season.

At that rate, Durant would indeed become the youngest player in NBA history to score his 20,000th point, with approximately 20,366 points to his name by the age of 28.

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Such a spectacular scoring rate would put Durant at the mark in question well before his 28th birthday. In this case, Kevin "benefits" from celebrating the yearly occasion on September 29th, about a month before the typical NBA season tips off.

But, suppose Durant's 29-point-per-game average holds. He'd then need just under 13 games to score another 366 points after nabbing his 20,000th. Assuming the NBA season still comes to a close in mid-April, that places the actual milestone-crossing day in mid-to-late March of 2016—right around the time that Durant has finished blowing out the candles on a cake to celebrate being 27-and-a-half.

If half-birthdays are at all a thing in his life at that point.

That'd  be a rather remarkable accomplishment, to become the youngest player to score 20,000 points by more than six months despite starting about three months later by age. To expect Durant to score 29 points per game over the next four years may seem a bit generous, at least when considering his career average of 26.5 points per game.

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But such an accomplishment seems far more feasible when evaluating the way in which Durant has improved and evolved as a scorer since his third season—the first in which he won the scoring title. After averaging 20.3 points and 25.3 points in his rookie and sophomore year, respectively, KD  has gone on to contribute approximately 28.7 points per game from year three up to the present day.

What's more, he's become an even more efficient scorer in that span. Since experiencing a slight dip in scoring and accuracy in 2010-11, Durant's productivity has improved, and dramatically so in some ways.

At present, Durant's posting career-high percentages in field goal shooting (.524), three-point shooting (.402) and free-throw shooting (.902). If those numbers hold, Kevin will join the likes of Larry Bird, Steve Nash, Reggie Miller and Dirk Nowitzki (to name a few) as just the eighth member of the famed 50-40-90 Club.

This is one area where Durant holds a clear advantage over James in the historical scoring race. Kevin came into the NBA as a sharpshooter and has only honed his skills in that regard. LeBron, to his credit, has improved by leaps and bounds as a marksman, but he didn't even begin to sniff Durant's territory as far as accuracy is concerned until last season.

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Durant also has the upper hand in that he's a "pure scorer" on a team that needs him to score, whereas LeBron has always been a facilitator who has the talent to score. The Thunder have always needed KD  to light up the scoreboard, and Durant's responsibility therein has only increased since general manager Sam Presti  sent James Harden to the Houston Rockets.

While Kevin is splitting that job with just one other superstar (Russell Westbrook), James has the luxury of sharing it with two—Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh. Thus, the onus isn't necessarily on LeBron to aim for 30 points or more on any given night, so long as he's also setting up his teammates for easy baskets.

Assuming Durant's scoring duties don't diminish on account of OKC  adding another superstar talent, a la the Heat, he shouldn't have too much trouble surpassing LeBron's age-related mark.

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Keep in mind, too, that Durant's still only 24. He's done a wonderful job of expanding his repertoire from year to year, to the point where he's now posting up in addition to launching silky-smooth threes and taking defenders off the dribble. His game only figures to grow from here on out, so long as he doesn't lose too much of his latent athleticism and isn't bitten by the injury bug as he approaches his prime.

Which, for LeBron, may well mean that his reign as the king of the 20,000-point youngsters may not last a full four years.
 
Kobe Bryant talks MJ, LeBron & 'Django'

Kobe Bryant taps me on the shoulder. “We doing this?” he asks. “Let’s go.”

He’s loose and confident, which essentially makes it a normal day in Bryant’s world.

Despite the unexpected wayward direction the Lakers season has taken, Bryant is ebullient during our exclusive, rare sit-down interview. He’s quick with a smirk or a joke and quite chummy. His exuberance suggests the Lakers are in the thick of a championship hunt. Today, his 17 years of accomplishment and five championship rings weigh more than a flimsy 17-21 record.

In Kobe Bryant’s universe, the sky is not falling. Actually, it’s still very much the limit.

On this recent January morning, he bounces from refreshingly candid to slightly guarded to inquisitive to surprisingly funny. But he quickly settles into a comfort zone, even slipping off his low-cut lavender Kobe 8s while absentmindedly fiddling with the three bracelets around his right ankle as he remembers how bewildered his 19-year-old self could once be.

Bryant and I sit for nearly an hour on the purple cushioned scorer’s table used for D-League games at the Lakers' practice facility in El Segundo, Calif. Just in front of us, little-used forward Devin Ebanks is on a side basket running baseline to baseline in a shooting drill with Lakers assistant coach Darvin Ham. At one point, as Kobe tells a story about his rookie season, head coach Mike D’Antoni walks by. Bryant looks ups, barely nods, without missing a beat or sacrificing a detail.

His facial features are as sharp as they were 10 years ago, his tongue sharper still. His voice is both familiar and easy. His usual baritone gets an octave deeper when a story moves him. The only difference is the once reckless swagger is now dispensed with careful precision, making it all the more venomous when needed.

He’s both appreciative of a lengthy career and the finite amount of time left to secure another ring. He’s grown weary of the broken record responses about his vastly underachieving Lakers. But today he reflects on his early years, contemplates hypothetical situations and offers details of his daily life.

This is Kobe Bryant, pretty much, unchained.

There’s something different about you. You seem so ... calm.

Because I am. That’s just the maturation. That’s 17 years of seeing everything the game can dish out. I’ve seen it all before. There’s no need to get too crazy or bent out of shape. There are still challenges everyday. But I’m still having fun. I was born to play this game. I still love it.

So you’re not a ticking time bomb?

[Laughs.] No, not at all. This is all stuff we’re going to work through. I know I don’t have much longer to do this so I’m going to enjoy it. I’m still going to find those challenges.

Are you still adding to your game?

At the end of 2003, my game was complete. Shooting, defense, using the dribble, transition, midrange stuff was all there. Then it was about fine-tuning and trying to improve in each area. People think the footwork stuff is new but I’ve always had great footwork. If you go back and look at film from 10 years ago, it’s all there: up-and-unders, spin moves, everything. I’ve been interested in footwork and how it benefits you since I was 8 or 9 years old. That’s just the way I was taught the game. The technical parts of the game always interested me.

You think you’ll ever score 50 again?

Yeah, it’ll happen.

Why have you only won one MVP?

Because I played with Shaq. It’s that simple. A lot of the time we cancelled each other out. I sacrificed a lot playing with him. I really did. I did it for the success of the team. If I never played with him my numbers would have been ridiculous.

Do you ever look back and marvel at some of the things you’ve accomplished like, say, the 81-point game?

To this day I’ve never seen that game. I don’t feel the need to watch it. What am I going to learn? I don’t watch those tapes. If I’m watching film it’s usually for an upcoming opponent.

When was the last time you watched Michael Jordan tapes?

Wow, it’s been a while. Probably not since 1999. I used to watch a bunch but that was a long time ago.

What was it like dropping 33 on him as a 19-year-old in your second year?

I wasn’t scared or nervous back then when I played Jordan. He looked at me like he was going to f--- me up but I had to let him know that I wasn’t that guy. I let him know that I’m not like all those other guys he played against. That’s not what I was there for. I was there to compete and I did.

Did you let him know that verbally?

More so by the way I played and competed.

Early on you got tired of the MJ comparisons but a part of you had to be flattered, right?

I appreciated them but after a while it just got old. They eventually faded away because I was putting together my own identity. But I’ll never forget how much I learned from MJ. I got so much from him. I knew what he did, I knew his moves and I used them. But for me the comparisons didn’t work because our situations were totally different. I came straight out of high school and played with a dominant big in Shaquille. Man, I was so young when I got to the NBA. What was I like 17? I mean, 17! The more you think about it, my situation was completely different than MJ’s so the comparisons were just, you know, I stopped paying attention to them.

Ironically towards the end of your career those comparisons are starting to return.

I don’t mind that now. It’s different now that I’m at the end of my career and I can look back. Fans will always want to know who’s better and like to compare players and I love that. That’s what I used to do. That’s why people are into basketball because it’s fun to debate those kinds of things.

React to this statement: A 17-year-old picked No. 13 in the draft will finish his career as one of the 10 best players ever.

If you would have told me that back then, I’d say you were nuts. Just nuts. It’s hard to believe.

Are you a Top 5 player all-time?

I don’t know. I hope so. I’ve still got a little time left, but honestly I haven’t thought a whole bunch about legacy and that kind of stuff. I just feel like there will be plenty of time for that.

Have you ever been intimidated on the basketball court?

Never. Not at all. My mind doesn’t work that way. It’s something that’s never even entered my thought process. The last time I was intimidated was when I was 6 years old in karate class. I was an orange belt and the instructor ordered me to fight a black belt who was a couple years older and a lot bigger. I was scared ********. I mean I was terrified and he kicked my a--. But then I realized he didn’t kick my a-- as bad as I thought he was going to and that there was nothing really to be afraid of. That was around the time I realized that intimidation didn’t really exist if you’re in the right frame of mind.

How did you feel when Magic called you the greatest Laker ever?

Words can’t describe it. He was my favorite player growing up and coming from him it couldn’t have meant more. At first I was praying I would grow to be 6-9 so I could pattern my game after his but I didn’t quite make it so I knew I wasn’t going to be like Magic. But he’s someone I’ve always admired and think highly of. That’s the greatest compliment.

Does it feel like the last 17 years have gone by fast?

It feels like the blink of an eye. I just think about how different I was back then. There are so many specific days that I can remember like they happened yesterday. When I was a rookie in my first training camp in Hawaii I ordered a bowl of cereal from room service. They were Frosted Flakes with a little thing of milk that came to $80! In 1996! I said "hell no" and told them to take it back. I got dressed and walked down to the corner store and bought a jug of milk and a big box of Frosted Flakes for like $10.

You were a young brash rookie that many vets weren’t too fond of. I can’t imagine people didn’t try to test you.

Oh yeah, they tried. During my rookie year we were in Portland and I drove the lane and Rasheed Wallace knocked me to the ground and stared at me. He tried to f--- me up but I wasn’t going to have it. I got right back up and drove even harder the next time. I really let people know early that I wasn’t the guy you could do that to.

Ever had a run-in with Kevin Garnett?

No, actually me and KG have been cool for a long time so he never tried anything with me. Being two of the first guys who came straight out of high school, we were kind of in the same boat. When I was a senior in high school I used to seek his counsel and ask him what I should do. He’d tell me what life was like on the road and how to deal with not playing that much. He really helped me quite a bit with my decision.

Is it hard to be your teammate?

No. That’s so overrated. If you come in ready to work then we’re good. Then we don’t have a problem.

Who is your best friend in the NBA that’s not a former teammate?

[Long pause.] There’s nobody I’m really hanging out with and going out with every night. But I’d probably say Carmelo Anthony. We’re pretty close. A lot of the guys from Team USA I get along with really well. I really respect those guys.

Usually self-appointed nicknames don’t really stick but Black Mamba has had real staying power.

Well, actually I didn’t come up with it. I think I was playing ball in the park in New York and they just started calling me that and it just stuck.

Oh, I didn’t know that.

Then I found out what a mamba can do with its quick-strike capability. There’s a really good scene in the movie "Kill Bill" that explains it.

Who would you most like to play one-on-one, either active or retired?

Jordan. No question.

What would happen?

I’m not sure, but he would win some and I would win some in a seven-game series. It would probably come down to the last few shots.

You versus LeBron? Who wins?

Me. No question. As far as one-on-one, I’m the best to ever do it.

Damn. That’s pretty confident.

LeBron is a terrific all-around, five-on-five basketball player who’s an all-time great. But I’d get him.

Who could get you?

Kevin Durant is the guy that would give me the most trouble. With his length and ability to use the dribble he’d be tough.

I always wanted to see you play Tracy McGrady.

I played T-Mac. I cooked him. Roasted him. Wasn’t even close. Ask him, he’ll tell you. When I was about 20, we were in Germany doing some promotional stuff for that other sneaker company and we played basketball everyday. We were in the gym all the time. We played three games of one-on-one to 11. I won all three games. One game I won 11-2. After the third game he said he had back spasms and couldn’t play anymore.

His back bothered him for most of his career.

Well, now you know.

What about Kyrie Irving?

[Huge smile, laugh.] Kyrie’s my boy, but he knows he doesn’t have anything for me. He doesn’t want to see me. But it would be fun. I’ve beaten a lot of guys one-on-one, like Reggie Miller and Grant Hill. I used to play Caron Butler all the time in practice when he was with the Lakers. When I was a rookie I used to get Nick van Exel and Eddie Jones. They know. They’ll tell you. They used to come at me hard but I wasn’t having that. I love going one-on-one with someone. That’s what I do. I’ve never lost. It’s a whole different game, just to have them right in front you and be able to do whatever you want.

When you’ve been playing basketball in the public eye for so long people can lose sight of the fact that you’re a regular person who just happens to be good at something that interests them.

I’m a normal person, of course. Sure.

When was the last time you pumped your own gas?

Yesterday. I do all of life’s daily tasks. The other day my wife and I stopped at 7-11 and I pulled up to the pump and I started to pump some gas. She went inside to buy something and was waiting in line. The guy in front of her sees me outside but doesn’t see her. He says, “Man, there’s Kobe Bryant pumping his own gas.” My wife says to the guy, “He wipes his own a--, too.”

She came back out and we had a big laugh about it. We both have the same sense of humor when it comes to stuff like that. But, yeah, I do the same things as everyone else.

Do you still have an interest in motorcycles? And how did that begin?

Yeah, I still do. I still have my bike. I didn’t grow up riding but I took several courses that included road tests. I also took three safety courses about how to crash and get out of tricky situations. You’ve got to know it because you’re eventually going to drop the bike.

Did you ever drop the bike?

No, but I had some close calls in tight traffic.

Do you have a thrill-seeking personality?

[Smiles big.] Unfortunately, I do. I’d love to go skydiving when I’m done playing. I might jump back on the bike too. It’s about the challenge of overcoming the fear. If I’m afraid of something that only makes me want to do it more.

What do you Google?

Fourth-grade math problems when I’m helping my daughter. And if I can’t figure something else out then I’ll look it up. But other than that I really don’t Google anything.

Ever Google yourself?

No. Why? I know everything there is to know about me. I know some celebrities are into that but that’s not me. Some of them even have alerts sent to them.

What do you do when you can’t sleep?

Sometimes I take an Ambien. But if my mind is racing I may get up and do something. The other night I was in my hotel room and couldn’t sleep so I got up and went across the street to see "Django [Unchained]."

What did you think?

It was genius. Absolutely incredible. Everything by Quentin Tarantino usually is, but this took it to another level. It’s the way he tells a story and the kind of characters he creates. It was crazy violent but the story is so strong and that’s what you remember.

I know you’re a big Robert Rodriguez fan. He’s from the same maverick filmmaking school as Tarantino. Would you want to work with Tarantino?

That would be incredible. Can you imagine one of my commercials with him?

What’s your favorite commercial you’ve ever been in?

The Kobe System campaign was great. It was really smart and funny and turned out well. Working with Kanye West and Richard Branson was a lot of fun. Also definitely the Black Mamba Nike spot that Robert Rodriquez did. I loved seeing how he worked and put things together. "Desperado" is one of my favorite movies.

Who would play you in a movie about your life?

I don’t know. That’s a tough one.

What about Samuel Jackson? You cuss like him.

[Sheepish smile.] That would be something. [Does a brief PG-rated Sam Jackson impression.]

What would happen if you tried to grow your hair out again?

It would be a struggle. It would be awfully thin up front. There would be a two-month period where people would look at me like what the f--- is going on. It would just be messed up.

You’d be looking like Django.

Exactly! Sometimes in the offseason when I’m laying low and no one sees me I just let it go. I’ll have this full beard and everything. It’s been a while since the ’fro. Those days are long gone.

What’s your biggest pet peeve?

I hate dog s---. I won’t go near it. So pissed when I step in it. I’ve got four dogs and I just don’t do dog doo. I’m a diva when it comes to that. Back in the day when I was in Italy, I used to order shoes from Nike all the time. I had to have all the fresh joints. I ordered the Elephant Print Jordans that were amazing. I went to the park to play and stepped in a huge pile of dog s---. You wouldn’t believe how mad I was. I was breaking off sticks to try to get it out of the crevices. I smacked them together and scraped the soles on the curb but couldn’t get it all out. Ever since that day I just can’t stand dog crap.

You made a glorious arrival to Twitter. Are there any NBA players you might want to follow?

Probably not. I’m not interested in what you had for breakfast. Twitter is great to connect with fans and be transparent. I enjoy that aspect about it. But really I’m still trying to figure it out.

So what are you going to do with the rest of your day?

I gotta catch a fishing boat. I’m taking my daughters fishing. It’s daddy time.
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And Steph Curry is out indefintely.
"It was really a freak injury," said Mark Jackson. "We will shut him down. He'll get treatment, and we'll see where he goes." "I don't know if it will be a fast or slow kind of heal just because after two surgeries and all that process," Curry said. X-rays were negative on Curry's ankle.
 
^Messed up what happened to Steph. He was headed for an allstar season. :smh:

Lebron youngest to 20k. **** he might easily pass up both mamba and GOAT when it's all said and done and that article proves right there that mamba will put the clamps on king james tonight if they go at each other one-on-one. :nthat:
 
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I always wanted to see you play Tracy McGrady.

I played T-Mac. I cooked him. Roasted him. Wasn’t even close. Ask him, he’ll tell you. When I was about 20, we were in Germany doing some promotional stuff for that other sneaker company and we played basketball everyday. We were in the gym all the time. We played three games of one-on-one to 11. I won all three games. One game I won 11-2. After the third game he said he had back spasms and couldn’t play anymore.



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What would happen if you tried to grow your hair out again?

It would be a struggle. It would be awfully thin up front. There would be a two-month period where people would look at me like what the f--- is going on. It would just be messed up.
 
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^^^ Irving is definitely already one of the best below-the-rim finishers in the game. Great touch and can use both hands well.
 
Where are the assists and play calling on those Irving highlights? Looks like an And one mix tape, dude is ball hogging. Cavs need to run more actual play sets, that's a key reason why they don't win much. You can't call Irving Iso over and over again and expect to beat good teams on a consistent basis. Irving's footwork is great and handles but he needs to turn into more of a playmaker if he's going to play PG long term. Coach Scott needs to step up and actually help Irving take that next step forward (playmaking, defense, running plays). He is basically the same player he was last year just playing more minutes and taking more shots.
 
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I always wanted to see you play Tracy McGrady.

I played T-Mac. I cooked him. Roasted him. Wasn’t even close. Ask him, he’ll tell you. When I was about 20, we were in Germany doing some promotional stuff for that other sneaker company and we played basketball everyday. We were in the gym all the time. We played three games of one-on-one to 11. I won all three games. One game I won 11-2. After the third game he said he had back spasms and couldn’t play anymore.



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What would happen if you tried to grow your hair out again?

It would be a struggle. It would be awfully thin up front. There would be a two-month period where people would look at me like what the f--- is going on. It would just be messed up.

Your post is confusing, what player said those comments
 
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