I like Pop, HOFer, elite coach, but he's not God. That's all I'm saying. His hype outweighs his actual production. I don't mean to disrespect him, 4 titles is great, but he doesn't trump Phil or Riley or Red. Chuck Daly could make a claim.
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I agree, very few coaches I'd take before him, but there are others I'd look at.
Everyone gives him credit, master tactician, so smartly rests his guys, lineups, rotations, adjustments, etc etc.
Well.......he was up 2-0 last year, lost 4 straight to Scott Brooks. Where the adjustments? Resting guys in November help? Had Homecourt advantage.
Year before that, he was a Manu miracle shot away from losing 4-1 to an 8 seed without Rudy Gay. He lost 4-2 with the Manu miracle. Had HC. Adjustments, rested vets?
2010, swept by Alvin Gentry. Another 4 straight L's. I forget who had HC. Maybe the Suns did.
Year before, 2 seed, HC, lost 4-1. Adjust, rest?
08, lost 4-1, again.
07, Horry hip check/suspension. They win that series without those suspensions?
2004, up 2-0, with HC, loses 4 straight. Adjust?
Lost 4-0 in 01, lost 4-1 in 2002. Master adjustments, rest? He had HC in BOTH series I believe.
Man, I dunno. He has titles, he deserves credit. But, that's A LOT of 0-4, 1-4 losses with homecourt and multiple hall of famers.
But I'm a hater for listing these facts I guess.
Iono.
CP is in here spewing hot garbage and lies
Talking about how the 2013 Lakers couldve contended with the Spurs in they had all their players but then omits Manu hurt his elbow before the 2011 Memphis series and he was the Spurs best player that year.
2010- Talking about how the Spurs choked but omits that the Spurs were a 7th seed beat the 2nd seed Mavericks. The Suns were a 3 seed, so I don't know how that's choking
2009-Manu missed the whole playoffs. They were a 3 seed not a 2
2008-They lost to a better team the 1 seed Lakers
2007-Thats just foolish, a total hater and hypocrite statement. This is the same man who raised holy hell when people like Xta mentioned the Kings refs debacle.
2004-Thats a legitimate letdown
2002-The Spurs didn't have Home Court. They were clearly overmatched by Kobe and Shaq. Their 2nd option was a 36 year old Robinson averaging 12 PPG.
2001- They did have HC but they were clearly over matched again by Kobe and Shaq. Duncan's top sidekick was Derek Anderson
This man is being a hater, pure and simple.
First off, I truly did screw up the Spurs being a 2-3 seed in 09, I pride myself on being factual, I can't believe I screwed that up, my bad on that, so, does me being wrong, now change that the Spurs, with Homecourt got blitzed in 5 games, losing the last 3, with Mr wonderful adjustments and rest in November Pop? Does the fact change, or stay the same, just with different numbers and my own error?
Second, I did not ONE time, at all, use the word choke. ZERO. I said Pop, and his "great coaching resume" have a lot of bad beats. And I spoke on those. I pointed them out, NEVER did I say choke. Please do not put words in my mouth.
MMG/JJ Watt, last night I mentioned being called a hater, now you see why I mentioned that.
Now, I said I didn't know who had HC in the Suns series in 2010, I said I think Suns, still, Pop got drilled 4-0 by Alvin Gentry. Alot like losing 4 straight to Scott Brooks. Where are the adjustments?
Next, you really gonna point at Manu elbow this, Manu out that and want me to feel sorry for you?
Soooooooo, if I say, Kobe was injured in 2011, and had to replace his knee in Germany, change your opinion on 2011? Or we played 2008 Finals without Bynum and Ariza, you give us credit for that? How about the Celtics in 09, played without KG, and had two MASSIVE 7 game series that year. They played 14 playoff games, they didn't lose 4-1 or 4-0 to anybody, why can Pop and the Spurs be given that pass, but other teams are not given such luxuries?
What you just did is my whole point. Someone wants to excuse every single loss the Spurs/Pop has. Duncan too. People ***** up and down this board, Kobe lost this series, LeBron lost that series, Dirk lost this series, KG didn't do **** this series, but Tim Duncan, oh, he's undefeated. He's 4-0. Nobody can ever beat Tim Duncan and Pop in their primes. Only........I pointed out a whole bunch of instances. With HC. With 2-0 leads. But excuse this, and excuse that.
Why? Why the Spurs get that treatment?
So yeah, I'm a hater, and I made one mistake saying 2 seed instead of 3 seed, so everything else I typed must not be true then. Just sweep that all under the rug, Spurs > everybody else. MIB all those series losses I pointed out.
*shrugs*