- Aug 6, 2012
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- 61,620
Are there any estimated first week sales?
- Jul 18, 2012
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- 4,741
- Aug 6, 2012
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Ahh. So it should pretty much hit 370K400k
- Apr 30, 2006
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Really good interview...
A lot of good questions.
The funny thing is the mentioned how people say he wouldn't be where he is if BIG was alive.
And he laughs and says who has the time to make up stuff like that..
And I'm thinking didn't NT just have a big thread with fools arguing about that
A lot of good questions.
The funny thing is the mentioned how people say he wouldn't be where he is if BIG was alive.
And he laughs and says who has the time to make up stuff like that..
And I'm thinking didn't NT just have a big thread with fools arguing about that
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My favorite line on the album...
Sooooo many "street dudes" getting knocked flaunting on social media.
- Nov 7, 2009
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bruh life is good is too gangster
- Jul 13, 2008
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@ the Miley Cyrus reach. Not only did she make the bop/twerk vid but awhile back she was on stage twerking for Juicy J during Bandz...He explained Holy Grail on the Breakfast Club. Getting fame/notoriety & then it leaving & going to the Ye's, the Drakes, the KL's or Cole's & him getting the attention or what have you back on himself
Arm Leg Leg Arm Head. How didn't any of you get it?!.
No wondere y'all say Jay has been subpar lyrically & he has no substance nor take risks in his music. It's because 80% of you have absolutely no idea wtf he's tombout
Only thing NT can relate to is getting dumped by a broad or copping limited sneakers
- Oct 31, 2005
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Looking forward to the video. Good to see Jay out there having fun with the everybody
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Think y'all reaching with the Miley even though it makes sence
- Jul 13, 2008
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Am I the only one that finds it painfully obvious that Jay smashed Angie Martinez 
- Nov 2, 2006
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its in 3-dAm I the only one that finds it painfully obvious that Jay smashed Angie Martinez
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Truthfully I didn't until I thought on it, and with all the stan-manship you never know what these dudes insinuating at. It's been four years since Jay-Z dropped a solo so it has been awhile since some Jay stick dropped.C'mon sonAm I the only one who saw this
You know what he means, you just took it out of context.
On an unrelated note, where is your avy from?
It's MIster Banco hittin the Nasty Pastor
@ 2:42
Damn I still need to cop that snapback
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how old are you?Am I the only one that finds it painfully obvious that Jay smashed Angie Martinez
mr marcus
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it aint that...i don't know that 5% talkas some in this thread would say its because youre not black bro.damn I never even caught the allah reference in the first line on heavens
so any reference coming from that will go over my head if i'm casually listening ...and I've only listened to Heavens twice
i don't live in chicago or nyc....so I don't see these dudes preaching on my corners down here
mr marcus
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- May 3, 2010
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thats old news buddy......welcome to 2003Am I the only one that finds it painfully obvious that Jay smashed Angie Martinez
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Hence my asking how old he wasthats old news buddy......welcome to 2003Am I the only one that finds it painfully obvious that Jay smashed Angie Martinez
Dudes accused Jay of this during the Nas beef in 01.
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So you think you're one of the few geniuses that discovered that?Arm Leg Leg Arm Head. How didn't any of you get it?!.
No wondere y'all say Jay has been subpar lyrically & he has no substance nor take risks in his music. It's because 80% of you have absolutely no idea wtf he's tombout
Only thing NT can relate to is getting dumped by a broad or copping limited sneakers
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The beat on Picasso Baby reminds me of something, I don't know what though.
And BBC reminds me of that "In The Wind" song from Trick Daddy, Cee-Lo, and Big Boi from back in the day.
And BBC reminds me of that "In The Wind" song from Trick Daddy, Cee-Lo, and Big Boi from back in the day.
gllahone84
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In the Wind is waaaaayyyyyyyy better too
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Not sure if posted already
http://www.tunelinks.com/songs/1400...ersion___Produced_By_Young_Guru___Just_Blaze_
And another review of it:
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Damn :x and this is one of his better releases to me. That rating fits more with WTT
http://www.tunelinks.com/songs/1400...ersion___Produced_By_Young_Guru___Just_Blaze_
And another review of it:
Jay-Z :: Magna Carta... Holy Grail
Samsung/Roc Nation
Give me a CD any day. Smart phones and digital downloads are brilliant and incredibly convenient, but it took me hours to get this Jay-Z app working on my Samsung Galaxy phone. For those of you sleeping under a Roc, Jay has partnered with Samsung to offer his latest album FREE to the first million consumers that manage to download a certain app. Other than the technological problems (perhaps a victim of his own success) and the fact you're asked to link up your Facebook so Shawn and Beyonce can laugh in to their platinum-plated Galaxy S4s at our mundane status updates, it's an admirable idea. Twelve studio albums in seventeen years is incredible for any emcee, never mind one that has numerous business ventures on the go and the world's sexiest pop star to satisfy. Jay-Z is undeniably the biggest "star" that hip hop has produced and despite the inevitable naysayers any successful musician has to deal with, he still has a lyrical quality that other rap superstars dream of.
Illuminati allegations, biting Biggie, mishandling Def Jam, none of it matters when you're selling stakes in NBA teams and introducing the world to artists like Rihanna. Hell, I'm one of those "heads" who still insists "Reasonable Doubt" is his best record, and through seventeen years he has barely put a foot wrong (other than co-signing Memphis Bleek, and wasting MOP's time). At 43 years of age, Jay-Z is also somehow still fashionable, continues to be hugely popular and goes against everything hip hop traditionally does with anybody over 40 – kicks them to the curb. To include the words ‘Magna Carta' in his latest album not only implies that J**** is making a statement of intent, but it keeps in line nicely with his monarchical status; "Blueprint", "Dynasty", "Kingdom Come", "Watch the Throne". Notice a pattern?
"Magna Carta... Holy Grail" (let's call it MCHG, as the Samsung app does) is anything but the esoteric ******** it may sound like. J**** ain't no Killah Priest, so don't expect mystical references and history lessons here. The title of the album is in fact, pointless. Most of the record sees Mr Carter share his insanely exuberant lifestyle, adding the odd dash of real life here and there. "Picasso Baby" is produced by Timbaland and Adrian Younge, and it's unclear whether they co-produced or each provided a beat. Much like "A Milion And One Questions" suddenly flips into "Rhyme No More" on J****'s sophomore release "In My Lifetime Vol. 1?, "Picasso Baby" is full of wordplay and the "is he freestyling?" presence, but is so bogged down in talk about excess and "wanting a wife to **** like a prostitute" that it doesn't come in to fruition until the second beat hits. A thumping, post-millennium, Just Blaze-style banger plays out and although the track is as ignorant as any Master P record, there are still excellent lines such as "I'm sleeping next to the modern-day version of Mona Lisa, with better features".
"Nickels and Dimes"
Johnny Cash, I'm a real G
I cut myself today to see if I still bleed
Success is so sublime
Gotta do that time to time so I don't lose my mind
Something 'bout the struggle so divine
This sort of love is hard to define
When you scratching for every nickel and dime
Got me itching to do this **** for my mom
Do this **** for my town
Leave the door open hoping they kick it down"
"Nickels and Dimes" is classic Jay-Z, and the emcee puts all his assets aside to share some genuinely dope rhymes. I would love to hear more of this style from Jay, despite recently receiving it in the form of J. Cole; mellow beats and sincere lyrics. It ends up being a relief rather than the expected listen it should be, and that's a damn shame. There's too much Rick Ross ("La Familia" is essentially a Rick Ross song performed by Jay-Z), too much influence from the success of artists such as Drake and not enough Jay-Z. "Daddy Dearest" is another example of J**** talking about his daughter, but this time includes a rapid-fire third verse showcasing he can still hang with the elite rhymers. There is even a follow-up to the ten year old (!) "Bonnie & Clyde" track that got Jayonce together in the first place – "Part II (On The Run)" is distinctly R&B despite the drums sounding like they came out of Eric B's basement. It suffers from the same problem as the Justin Timberlake collaboration in that it feels like a Beyonce track featuring Jay-Z, but considering how talented Beyonce is (and JT for that matter) it doesn't detract from the song one bit. The piercing "Heaven" starts off well, with an intrguing defence of Illuminati rumours from Jay, but shortly falls back on his lavish lifestyle, using Maybachs and Lamborghinis as metaphors for angels. "FUTW" stands for **** Up This World, and despite the anarchic message features some of "MCHG"‘s best rhymes, with a luscious production that feels like it was tailor-made for Raekwon.
It's a shame then that the good tracks are negated by some disappointing ones. "Tom Ford" is cringeworthy stuff, as Shawn inexplicably leaves some terrible singing scattered throughout the electro-vaganza. It ain't a word, **** it – it summed up Kanye's latest record perfectly though and unfortunately, J**** has felt it necessary to include some of his own experimental material. Some rappers can sing, your J Coles and Drakes, fine. But a Jay-Z shouldn't be resorting to this. Leave the wacky **** to Kanye. Rick Ross himself features on "****withmeyouknowIgotit". It's bad enough the spacebar broke, but hearing Rick Ross stumble through a verse using "*****" to rhyme EVERY bar undermines the thousands of talented emcees out there struggling to rub two cents together. Seriously, you could have got Amil on this joint and it would... OK maybe not, but you get the idea.
The problem with "MCHG" is the excessive examples of plain old brag-rap. There is very little humour and some of the production is flat out boring. At times it feels as if Jay-Z has created a new genre of rap by constantly talking about Bugattis and high-end fashion labels. Hip hop is littered with rappers talking about materialistic things, but nobody can compete with Jay-Z financially – he could actually live out this record. Whereas your Three 6 Mafias were bragging about tacky platinum grills and rented sports cars, J**** is ACTUALLY making multi-million dollar business deals. He may not be buying castles, but his wife is hotter than yours and he wants to ensure you know that. That's not to say this is J****'s worst record, and a lack of hype plus free downloads have ensured people aren't going to be too disappointed. If you happen to want to buy this, just remember that Jay-Z lives in another world to 99.9% of us mere mortals. As great a career as he has had, it's hard to enjoy whole songs about elite fashion labels and spending money like it is nothing. With the world in recession, many enjoy escaping to the fantasy worlds that Jay-Z shares, but it is the more emotive, relatable songs about parenthood and building success (rather than revelling in it) that you'll be listening to in years to come.
Music Vibes: 6 of 10 Lyric Vibes: 6 of 10 TOTAL Vibes: 6 of 10
Originally posted: July 9th, 2013
Samsung/Roc Nation
Give me a CD any day. Smart phones and digital downloads are brilliant and incredibly convenient, but it took me hours to get this Jay-Z app working on my Samsung Galaxy phone. For those of you sleeping under a Roc, Jay has partnered with Samsung to offer his latest album FREE to the first million consumers that manage to download a certain app. Other than the technological problems (perhaps a victim of his own success) and the fact you're asked to link up your Facebook so Shawn and Beyonce can laugh in to their platinum-plated Galaxy S4s at our mundane status updates, it's an admirable idea. Twelve studio albums in seventeen years is incredible for any emcee, never mind one that has numerous business ventures on the go and the world's sexiest pop star to satisfy. Jay-Z is undeniably the biggest "star" that hip hop has produced and despite the inevitable naysayers any successful musician has to deal with, he still has a lyrical quality that other rap superstars dream of.
Illuminati allegations, biting Biggie, mishandling Def Jam, none of it matters when you're selling stakes in NBA teams and introducing the world to artists like Rihanna. Hell, I'm one of those "heads" who still insists "Reasonable Doubt" is his best record, and through seventeen years he has barely put a foot wrong (other than co-signing Memphis Bleek, and wasting MOP's time). At 43 years of age, Jay-Z is also somehow still fashionable, continues to be hugely popular and goes against everything hip hop traditionally does with anybody over 40 – kicks them to the curb. To include the words ‘Magna Carta' in his latest album not only implies that J**** is making a statement of intent, but it keeps in line nicely with his monarchical status; "Blueprint", "Dynasty", "Kingdom Come", "Watch the Throne". Notice a pattern?
"Magna Carta... Holy Grail" (let's call it MCHG, as the Samsung app does) is anything but the esoteric ******** it may sound like. J**** ain't no Killah Priest, so don't expect mystical references and history lessons here. The title of the album is in fact, pointless. Most of the record sees Mr Carter share his insanely exuberant lifestyle, adding the odd dash of real life here and there. "Picasso Baby" is produced by Timbaland and Adrian Younge, and it's unclear whether they co-produced or each provided a beat. Much like "A Milion And One Questions" suddenly flips into "Rhyme No More" on J****'s sophomore release "In My Lifetime Vol. 1?, "Picasso Baby" is full of wordplay and the "is he freestyling?" presence, but is so bogged down in talk about excess and "wanting a wife to **** like a prostitute" that it doesn't come in to fruition until the second beat hits. A thumping, post-millennium, Just Blaze-style banger plays out and although the track is as ignorant as any Master P record, there are still excellent lines such as "I'm sleeping next to the modern-day version of Mona Lisa, with better features".
"Nickels and Dimes"
Johnny Cash, I'm a real G
I cut myself today to see if I still bleed
Success is so sublime
Gotta do that time to time so I don't lose my mind
Something 'bout the struggle so divine
This sort of love is hard to define
When you scratching for every nickel and dime
Got me itching to do this **** for my mom
Do this **** for my town
Leave the door open hoping they kick it down"
"Nickels and Dimes" is classic Jay-Z, and the emcee puts all his assets aside to share some genuinely dope rhymes. I would love to hear more of this style from Jay, despite recently receiving it in the form of J. Cole; mellow beats and sincere lyrics. It ends up being a relief rather than the expected listen it should be, and that's a damn shame. There's too much Rick Ross ("La Familia" is essentially a Rick Ross song performed by Jay-Z), too much influence from the success of artists such as Drake and not enough Jay-Z. "Daddy Dearest" is another example of J**** talking about his daughter, but this time includes a rapid-fire third verse showcasing he can still hang with the elite rhymers. There is even a follow-up to the ten year old (!) "Bonnie & Clyde" track that got Jayonce together in the first place – "Part II (On The Run)" is distinctly R&B despite the drums sounding like they came out of Eric B's basement. It suffers from the same problem as the Justin Timberlake collaboration in that it feels like a Beyonce track featuring Jay-Z, but considering how talented Beyonce is (and JT for that matter) it doesn't detract from the song one bit. The piercing "Heaven" starts off well, with an intrguing defence of Illuminati rumours from Jay, but shortly falls back on his lavish lifestyle, using Maybachs and Lamborghinis as metaphors for angels. "FUTW" stands for **** Up This World, and despite the anarchic message features some of "MCHG"‘s best rhymes, with a luscious production that feels like it was tailor-made for Raekwon.
It's a shame then that the good tracks are negated by some disappointing ones. "Tom Ford" is cringeworthy stuff, as Shawn inexplicably leaves some terrible singing scattered throughout the electro-vaganza. It ain't a word, **** it – it summed up Kanye's latest record perfectly though and unfortunately, J**** has felt it necessary to include some of his own experimental material. Some rappers can sing, your J Coles and Drakes, fine. But a Jay-Z shouldn't be resorting to this. Leave the wacky **** to Kanye. Rick Ross himself features on "****withmeyouknowIgotit". It's bad enough the spacebar broke, but hearing Rick Ross stumble through a verse using "*****" to rhyme EVERY bar undermines the thousands of talented emcees out there struggling to rub two cents together. Seriously, you could have got Amil on this joint and it would... OK maybe not, but you get the idea.
The problem with "MCHG" is the excessive examples of plain old brag-rap. There is very little humour and some of the production is flat out boring. At times it feels as if Jay-Z has created a new genre of rap by constantly talking about Bugattis and high-end fashion labels. Hip hop is littered with rappers talking about materialistic things, but nobody can compete with Jay-Z financially – he could actually live out this record. Whereas your Three 6 Mafias were bragging about tacky platinum grills and rented sports cars, J**** is ACTUALLY making multi-million dollar business deals. He may not be buying castles, but his wife is hotter than yours and he wants to ensure you know that. That's not to say this is J****'s worst record, and a lack of hype plus free downloads have ensured people aren't going to be too disappointed. If you happen to want to buy this, just remember that Jay-Z lives in another world to 99.9% of us mere mortals. As great a career as he has had, it's hard to enjoy whole songs about elite fashion labels and spending money like it is nothing. With the world in recession, many enjoy escaping to the fantasy worlds that Jay-Z shares, but it is the more emotive, relatable songs about parenthood and building success (rather than revelling in it) that you'll be listening to in years to come.
Music Vibes: 6 of 10 Lyric Vibes: 6 of 10 TOTAL Vibes: 6 of 10
Originally posted: July 9th, 2013
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:x and this is one of his better releases to me. That rating fits more with WTT
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The performance at Pace just seems so forced...
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The performance at Pace just seems so forced...
...
this
but also, technically he doesn't even need to shoot a video.
album is done, paid for (recouped), why spend $$$ on promo?
eff it. no one watches videos on tv anymore.
The performance at Pace just seems so forced...
...
this
but also, technically he doesn't even need to shoot a video.
album is done, paid for (recouped), why spend $$$ on promo?
eff it. no one watches videos on tv anymore.
i literally dont even watch TV anymore
