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[sosly]

So about that team in Columbus.

 

[sircharles2ol3]

I'll take 1 point off a loss to the Devils.. I didn't see the game but Devils tied it up in the last minute to send to OT? That blows if true.

 

[proshares]

Originally Posted by DeadsetAce

nice comeback win for us tonight...but way too sloppy. and goaltending is starting to concern me, both of them.

 fault of your own media and Timmy blowing this whole White House thing out of proportion.  Now the poor guy actually has to deal with trade rumors.

 @ the Tommy Salo reference.

  

 

[DeadsetAce]

Originally Posted by Proshares

Originally Posted by DeadsetAce

nice comeback win for us tonight...but way too sloppy. and goaltending is starting to concern me, both of them.

 fault of your own media and Timmy blowing this whole White House thing out of proportion.  Now the poor guy actually has to deal with trade rumors.

i don't even blame the media though. it's all on tim. what did he expect? the media will be the media, don't give them something to focus on. he should keep his political statements for the offseason.

 

[dmxfury]

Trying to read through the updated Sid stuff, hopefully these new findings explain his concussion like symptoms and why they kept coming back.

Wild comeback with Malkin doing it again. The Pens literally have the two best players in the world on the same team. Please get healthy Sid, there are more Cups to win

 

[dmxfury]

Oh and since we're doing all hockey, Go Redhawks (disappointing year but great program and a championship isn't far off (can't get much closer than 57 seconds))

 

[proshares]

Originally Posted by DeadsetAce

Originally Posted by Proshares

Originally Posted by DeadsetAce

nice comeback win for us tonight...but way too sloppy. and goaltending is starting to concern me, both of them.

 fault of your own media and Timmy blowing this whole White House thing out of proportion.  Now the poor guy actually has to deal with trade rumors.

i don't even blame the media though. it's all on tim. what did he expect? the media will be the media, don't give them something to focus on. he should keep his political statements for the offseason.

I get that but I don't think they should have even been all over him not showing up in the first place.  Started this spiral IMO.

That's close DMX, Malkin over Toews/Datsyuk?  Very close.  They may have the second best defenseman too.
  

 

[dmxfury]

Maybe I'll amend to the best scorers...? Gotta be something, but unfortunately it is just a 'what if' at this point

 

[proshares]

Oh, wasn't meant to come off as disagreeing with you just saying that it's close with who IMO is the 2nd best

 

[jewseejay]

lol at toews/datsyuk bein the number two... tho

if were talkin total package Pasha hands down... he backchecks and plays D like Geno never will

if were talkin best scorerer its Malkin...easily

toews would be rounding out the top 5 behind Pasha, the ginger robots, giroux, and Stamkos

 

[proshares]

If I'm assuming Crosby is #1 how is it laughable that Toews/Datsyuk are close to being up there along with Malkin for #2?

I wouldn't put any of the Sedin's, Giroux or Stamkos before Toews.

 

[frenchblue23]

Originally Posted by sosly

So about that team in Columbus.

They've checked out long time ago.    I don't think a move to the Eastern Conference would make a difference for them anytime soon. 

 

[scuse7]

Originally Posted by Proshares


I wouldn't put any of the Sedin's, Giroux or Stamkos before Toews.

^ Same.
Malkin is tearing it up now though. Can't be stopped.

 

[hawkflight6]

When healthy Crosby is definitely number 1 and I think either Malkin, Datsyuk or Toews could be second. Malkin is tearing it up right now, but Datsyuk and Toews have probably the 2 best overall games in the league imo.

I don't think its ridiculous to put Toews in the top 3. He's 23 and already has a Cup, Conn Smythe, gold medal and was named top forward at the Olympics. And this year he's 3rd in goals, 10th in points, he's on the powerplay and penalty kill and one of the top faceoff guys in the league. He literally does everything you could ask of a hockey player

 

[True Blues]

Toews is the best two-way player in the League.

 

[witnessmycalm21]

I agree ^ At the moment Toews is the best 2 way player in the league
When Crosby is on the ice though, he has to take a back seat to the kid.

IMO at least.

got me thinking of my favorite top 5/10.

1. Crosby

2. Toews

3  Kane

4. Gino

5. Stamkos

6. Backstrom

7. Parise

8. Gabby

9. Wheerler

10. Lundqvist

Originally Posted by FIRST B0RN

Originally Posted by WitnessMyCalm21

Heatley starting off the night with 2 goals in the 1st ... 

That was a brutal ending. 

I went to sleep depressed 

 So terrible man.

 

[jewseejay]

are we forgetting who Toews plays with?

put one of those other guys on his lines... big body burnette +Sharp and Kane or Stalberg n Hossa...

toews is very good 2 way yes but dats is better and i liken toews to a slightly more skilled Ryan Kesler... ppg but dominate definsively too...

the other guys can legitimately be 1.5 ppg players imo however so ya gimme stammer who has 45+ goals every season or a budding giroux who was playing atta 1.4 ppg pace before the concussion

 

[winged wheel]

Originally Posted by True Blues

Toews is the best two-way player in the League.

  

 

[proshares]

Originally Posted by JewSeeJay

are we forgetting who Toews plays with?
 

If that's the argument, then we'll have to agree to disagree.  If we start dropping rankings because of how good their linemates are then we'll be dropping a lot of players?

Doesn't Stamkos drop because he's played with two amazing playmakers?
Don't Backstrom/Ovie drop because they have each other that play into their indivdual strengths?
Doesn't Giroux drop because Hartnell is having a career year putting goals in the net?
Doesn't Malkin drop a bit because Neal is having a career year with goals and scoring at will on the PP?
Same can go for the Sedins playing on the same line, Datsyuk, etc...

 

[DeadsetAce]

Originally Posted by Proshares

Originally Posted by JewSeeJay

are we forgetting who Toews plays with?
 

If that's the argument, then we'll have to agree to disagree.  If we start dropping rankings because of how good their linemates are then we'll be dropping a lot of players?

Doesn't Stamkos drop because he's played with two amazing playmakers?
Don't Backstrom/Ovie drop because they have each other that play into their indivdual strengths?
Doesn't Giroux drop because Hartnell is having a career year putting goals in the net?
Doesn't Malkin drop a bit because Neal is having a career year with goals and scoring at will on the PP?
Same can go for the Sedins playing on the same line, Datsyuk, etc...

leaving patrice bergeron as THE best two way player in hockey

 

[philballa09]

i wouldn't say Hartnell is a superstar or playmaker

coincidence? Giroux

 

[physicx]

if theres one thing sports fans love to argue about, its lists

personally, toews is my favorite player so ill just stay out. speaking of which, i need to take a pic of my jersey when i get home

edit - for the record, i think datsyuk is better

 

[hawkflight6]

How can you make the argument against Toews because of who he plays with and then say Datsyuk is better?

Datsyuk's teammates are just as skilled as Toews' imo, so I don't think that makes a difference. I have no idea who is better so I will say that Toews and Datsyuk are the 2 best 2 way players in the league. And Toews is also one of my favourites so I could just be biased

 

[DownByLaw]

Originally Posted by Winged Wheel

Originally Posted by True Blues

Toews is the best two-way player in the League.

  

A+ execution

As a Blackhawks fan; I'd take Datsyuk over Toews any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

 

[witnessmycalm21]

What a defensive struggle of a game the Rangers and Sabres have going on here ... fun to watch though...