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If, if, if, if there was any change to be made to the final seconds it should not be showing Arya sneaking.

The only telegraph that may could have possibly worked is if Bran told the NK "You are right where you need to be" right before the over the shoulder shot.

But in a way it would ruin the tension. Because it the seeing Arya appear is not the first seconds of excitement in the sequence
 
how is it out of character when he approached the last three eyed raven the exact same way as he did Bran? Out of character would have been him lighting Bran's *** on fire with the dragon. I think you need too rewatch that Hold The Door episode. It played out the same way with his approach only difference is he was able to swing that blade before getting jumped by Arya. He stood there and looked at the Three Eyed Raven first and took his time to slice him up.


The previous 3 eyed raven was stuck in a damn tree with an elf protecting him there was absolutely no danger for the NK

All series long he avoided exposing himself to direct threats but walks into an obvious trap with victory within reach?

I’m not with it, **** seemed silly and way out of character.
 
I would have been cool with Jon making it to the NK while he raises the dead. As the dead are getting up they clash swords for a bit. Jon disarms the NK and before he could finish him the dead get in between them. The NK smirks, turns around and walks away. Then they proceed with the rest.
 
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/review-game-of-thrones-episode-3-season-8-subverti/1100-6466520/

Game of Thrones Season 8 spoilers ahead.
By Michael Rougeau | @RogueCheddar on April 30, 2019 at 12:44PM PDT



We were left cold by Episode 3 of Game of Thrones Season 8, "The Long Night." Below, you'll find our review, which dives into our issues with this climactic battle with the Night King and the White Walkers.

If you're all caught up and have watched the episode, check out what happened to Jon's dragon, what happened to Ghost, and our new theories based on Episode 3. You can also refresh yourself on everyone who's died this season, including at the Battle of Winterfell, and pore over all the Easter eggs and references you might have missed this week. What did you think of this episode? Let us know in the comments below, and then take a look ahead at the Episode 4 preview, which shows the forces in the north beginning to ramp up for one final battle--this one against Cersei, the Lannisters, and the Golden Company.

Through all the twists and turns over the last eight seasons, Game of Thrones has never been straightforward--until now. Season 8 Episode 3, "The Long Night," brought one of Game of Thrones' main storylines to its conclusion. The battle with the dead is over, the Night King is defeated, and the forces of the living are victorious. And it happened in the least inventive, most predictable way imaginable.

It's possible that I've been immersed in the world of Game of Thrones theories, speculating, and prophecies for too long. But that's a huge part of the fun of being a Game of Thrones fan: The books, and sometimes the show, are crafted so densely, with layers on layers of meaning and allusion, that combing through line-by-line to suss out every last secret feels endlessly rewarding. Fan communities across the internet have been cranking out theories for literally decades, even as the pace of book releases slowed to a crawl (and apparently stopped altogether at some point).

All these years of deep-digging have sometimes made it hard to enjoy the show, which is (understandably) simplified compared with the source material. But it also gives the series' biggest fans a huge amount of perspective: We can see all the possibilities for which the groundwork has been expertly laid over the years. And in "The Long Night," those possibilities all amounted to basically nothing.

Where do I even start? I guess with the fact that it seems like Game of Thrones, the show, has just missed the point of the entire series: that the squabbles between the great houses of Westeros are nothing compared with the unstoppable force of nature slowly bearing down on them from the wintery north. Game of Thrones was never supposed to actually be about the battle for the throne--it's supposed to be about the characters coming together to realize what was really important. The quintessential human fallacy, according to the brain of George R.R. Martin, is believing with absolute certainty that your personal battles are the most important fights that exist. It's a failure of perspective.

Now, with three episodes left, the series' ultimate threat died with a whimper, and its most short-sighted characters turned out to be right, their selfishness justified. As we saw in the preview for next week's episode, the survivors are going right back to their squabbles. They won the great war, but lost the thematic throughline. Why did any of this matter? To give Arya a cool hero moment? So Bran could keep doing absolutely nothing? So Theon could die pointlessly?

The litany of "whys," "whats," and "wheres" won't stop marching through my mind: What has Melisandre been doing in Volantis since last season? Where was undead Rickon Stark (or any other recognizable character) when the Stark corpses came alive in the crypts? Why was there so much foreshadowing about the crypts if nobody important was going to die down there? Why does the show refuse to acknowledge Ghost or include the direwolf in any meaningful way? Why did Jon's revelation to Dany--one of the most important plotlines in the entire series--occur right before this battle if it wasn't going to have any bearing on the events of this episode?


There's no catharsis or payoff in anything that happened in "The Long Night." Yes, it was cool to see Jon and Dany tearing through the sky on their dragons laying waste to the army of the dead with massive gouts of flame. But this episode felt weirdly self-contained, like everything that's happened leading up to it didn't matter. Every fan theory I've seen about the battle with the dead--whether it's a theory from the books 20 years ago or from Reddit last week--is immeasurably more interesting than what actually happened.

One of my favorites until now was that the Night King wouldn't actually show up at this battle--that the attack on Winterfell was a feint, and he was flying to King's Landing to roast Cersei on her throne. There was a ton of evidence for it, but it still would have been a shock. And even better, it would have fit that ultimate series theme--that the fight for the throne was a petty squabble, and the people who failed to see the big picture (i.e. Cersei) would pay a price for it. Instead, the Night King took the bait at Winterfell and died like an idiot. He took his entire race with him, and we never learned anything about them besides "White Walkers=bad."

There are so, so many things that will just never be paid off now. Dany unified the Dothraki tribes and brought them to Westeros so they could die, one and all, in a single ill-conceived charge (seriously, what was the strategy there?). What was the point of Melisandre's entire storyline--the Lord of Light, the resurrections, the Prince that was Promised? Was it really all so she could light some swords on fire and tell Arya to go stab a dude?

Even within the confines of this episode's story--Night King is just a dumb Big Bad Guy after all, he comes to Winterfell, he gets killed--there are endless more rewarding ways it could have gone down. Remember when Dany magically survived Khal Drogo's funeral pyre in Season 1? Now imagine Jon hadn't told Dany about his true identity last season, and instead she had realized there was more to him than she thought when he stepped into her dragonfire, unharmed, and stabbed the Night King in the back. Or it's Arya--but instead of nonsensically jumping onto the Night King's back, she employs her Faceless Men magic to pose as Bran. Bran stabs the Night King, removes his face, bam, it's Arya.

That's payoff. This was boring.

The battle wasn't even that cool, for all the show's creators hyped it up. Long, yes, but much of it was so dark that it was hard to read the action and tell what was happening. And all their strategies were terrible: They wasted the Dothraki in a single pointless charge, Jon and Dany flew around in the clouds doing nothing for minutes on end, and they sent their most vulnerable people underground to the place with dozens of pre-packaged zombies just waiting for the Night King to pop them into the microwave. Dany sat on the ground for no reason and didn't notice the horde of undead crawling onto Drogon's back, and the Night King and all his generals didn't hear the young woman sneaking up on them through the snow. Every single character, living or dead, acted in the stupidest ways possible. It's incredible to me that this episode was written by showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss, because it feels like it was written by somebody who's never seen the show before, much less has any understanding of the source material.

With three episodes left, Game of Thrones has pulled one of its final twists: It subverted all our expectations in the worst ways possible. We expected some real, impactful main character deaths in this episode, and it turned out the stakes weren't nearly as high as we thought. We expected some payoff for things Game of Thrones has spent seven seasons setting up, and the reality is much of it was simply pointless. And worst of all, we expected the culmination of Game of Thrones' most important storyline--the literal battle between life and death--to matter.

We expected Game of Thrones to be better. And unfortunately, the show did what it's done so many times before: It turned our expectations upside-down. But being surprised by Game of Thrones has never felt worse.
 
Dawg the minute the setup happens we are all gunna be waiting for Arya to come with the save.

By not telegraphing what Arya was doing and allowing the audience to forget about her made the surprise 10x more dramatic and thrilling.

It would be ruined if you telegraphed any more than they did.

Dramatic and thrilling? She jumped from Bravos. With 500 wights standing there not killing her.

Dramatic and thrilling. The dragons flying/breathing fire were more believable.
 
Agreed all the way. Her coming out of nowhere was DOPE. Anyone saying otherwise is just nitpicking :rolleyes .

8 Seasons of "Winter is coming" to have the Night King kill a dragon while throwing like a girl and Theon as his only kills is nitpicking?

The wildlings united out of fear of the dead because of this man, and he killed exactly ONE man. In EIGHT seasons.

Nitpicking. :lol:
 
the millions of memes celebrating the moment means you're probably in the loud minority.

The same millions that voted for Trump? The sheep that were just excited to see a girl jump from........wherever and kill the bad man were celebrating?

If Bran stood up and killed him, they would have celebrated.
If Jon killed him, they would have celebrated.
If a dragon ate him, they would have celebrated.
If Hound did it, if Brianne, if Jamie stabbed him in the back. BS man
 
8 Seasons of "Winter is coming" to have the Night King kill a dragon while throwing like a girl and Theon as his only kills is nitpicking?

The wildlings united out of fear of the dead because of this man, and he killed exactly ONE man. In EIGHT seasons.

Nitpicking. :lol:

I am strictly referring to Arya's appearance + how he was killed. I am not talking about the contributions, or lack thereof, of the NK. To me, I always took him as the leader-figure who doesn't get his hands dirty; same with Dany & Cersei. Jon the only leadership that fights. It's pretty simple to think that way instead of harping on him never being involved in combat.
 
why this dude have this big a*** machete to not do a damn thing.. ever..

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if dude going play puppet master, why give him the next level arm strength to throw that javelin like that

why even go in harms way if youre basically dany.. and we even say dany swing the sword more than this dude the whole damn series
 
The wildlings united out of fear of the dead because of this man, and he killed exactly ONE man. In EIGHT seasons.

Nitpicking. :lol:
They feared certain death at the hands of the army of the dead which they ended up joining, so they were rightfully scared. They didn't fear the NK's skill in battle.
 
I hope that once the season wraps up, GRRM drops a buzzer beater post saying "Yeah, dem books is done. Poppa's coming to the rescue". Highly unlikely but A Man Wishes.
once he's done with the scouting reports of all the NL EAST bullpens.
The same millions that voted for Trump? The sheep that were just excited to see a girl jump from........wherever and kill the bad man were celebrating?

If Bran stood up and killed him, they would have celebrated.
If Jon killed him, they would have celebrated.
If a dragon ate him, they would have celebrated.
If Hound did it, if Brianne, if Jamie stabbed him in the back. BS man

1. Trump lost the poplar vote. :lol:

2. Look man it's clear you thought the show was about the dude in a rubber mask, clearly the writers didn't.
 
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/review-game-of-thrones-episode-3-season-8-subverti/1100-6466520/

Game of Thrones Season 8 spoilers ahead.
By Michael Rougeau | @RogueCheddar on April 30, 2019 at 12:44PM PDT



We were left cold by Episode 3 of Game of Thrones Season 8, "The Long Night." Below, you'll find our review, which dives into our issues with this climactic battle with the Night King and the White Walkers.

If you're all caught up and have watched the episode, check out what happened to Jon's dragon, what happened to Ghost, and our new theories based on Episode 3. You can also refresh yourself on everyone who's died this season, including at the Battle of Winterfell, and pore over all the Easter eggs and references you might have missed this week. What did you think of this episode? Let us know in the comments below, and then take a look ahead at the Episode 4 preview, which shows the forces in the north beginning to ramp up for one final battle--this one against Cersei, the Lannisters, and the Golden Company.

Through all the twists and turns over the last eight seasons, Game of Thrones has never been straightforward--until now. Season 8 Episode 3, "The Long Night," brought one of Game of Thrones' main storylines to its conclusion. The battle with the dead is over, the Night King is defeated, and the forces of the living are victorious. And it happened in the least inventive, most predictable way imaginable.

It's possible that I've been immersed in the world of Game of Thrones theories, speculating, and prophecies for too long. But that's a huge part of the fun of being a Game of Thrones fan: The books, and sometimes the show, are crafted so densely, with layers on layers of meaning and allusion, that combing through line-by-line to suss out every last secret feels endlessly rewarding. Fan communities across the internet have been cranking out theories for literally decades, even as the pace of book releases slowed to a crawl (and apparently stopped altogether at some point).

All these years of deep-digging have sometimes made it hard to enjoy the show, which is (understandably) simplified compared with the source material. But it also gives the series' biggest fans a huge amount of perspective: We can see all the possibilities for which the groundwork has been expertly laid over the years. And in "The Long Night," those possibilities all amounted to basically nothing.

Where do I even start? I guess with the fact that it seems like Game of Thrones, the show, has just missed the point of the entire series: that the squabbles between the great houses of Westeros are nothing compared with the unstoppable force of nature slowly bearing down on them from the wintery north. Game of Thrones was never supposed to actually be about the battle for the throne--it's supposed to be about the characters coming together to realize what was really important. The quintessential human fallacy, according to the brain of George R.R. Martin, is believing with absolute certainty that your personal battles are the most important fights that exist. It's a failure of perspective.

Now, with three episodes left, the series' ultimate threat died with a whimper, and its most short-sighted characters turned out to be right, their selfishness justified. As we saw in the preview for next week's episode, the survivors are going right back to their squabbles. They won the great war, but lost the thematic throughline. Why did any of this matter? To give Arya a cool hero moment? So Bran could keep doing absolutely nothing? So Theon could die pointlessly?

The litany of "whys," "whats," and "wheres" won't stop marching through my mind: What has Melisandre been doing in Volantis since last season? Where was undead Rickon Stark (or any other recognizable character) when the Stark corpses came alive in the crypts? Why was there so much foreshadowing about the crypts if nobody important was going to die down there? Why does the show refuse to acknowledge Ghost or include the direwolf in any meaningful way? Why did Jon's revelation to Dany--one of the most important plotlines in the entire series--occur right before this battle if it wasn't going to have any bearing on the events of this episode?


There's no catharsis or payoff in anything that happened in "The Long Night." Yes, it was cool to see Jon and Dany tearing through the sky on their dragons laying waste to the army of the dead with massive gouts of flame. But this episode felt weirdly self-contained, like everything that's happened leading up to it didn't matter. Every fan theory I've seen about the battle with the dead--whether it's a theory from the books 20 years ago or from Reddit last week--is immeasurably more interesting than what actually happened.

One of my favorites until now was that the Night King wouldn't actually show up at this battle--that the attack on Winterfell was a feint, and he was flying to King's Landing to roast Cersei on her throne. There was a ton of evidence for it, but it still would have been a shock. And even better, it would have fit that ultimate series theme--that the fight for the throne was a petty squabble, and the people who failed to see the big picture (i.e. Cersei) would pay a price for it. Instead, the Night King took the bait at Winterfell and died like an idiot. He took his entire race with him, and we never learned anything about them besides "White Walkers=bad."

There are so, so many things that will just never be paid off now. Dany unified the Dothraki tribes and brought them to Westeros so they could die, one and all, in a single ill-conceived charge (seriously, what was the strategy there?). What was the point of Melisandre's entire storyline--the Lord of Light, the resurrections, the Prince that was Promised? Was it really all so she could light some swords on fire and tell Arya to go stab a dude?

Even within the confines of this episode's story--Night King is just a dumb Big Bad Guy after all, he comes to Winterfell, he gets killed--there are endless more rewarding ways it could have gone down. Remember when Dany magically survived Khal Drogo's funeral pyre in Season 1? Now imagine Jon hadn't told Dany about his true identity last season, and instead she had realized there was more to him than she thought when he stepped into her dragonfire, unharmed, and stabbed the Night King in the back. Or it's Arya--but instead of nonsensically jumping onto the Night King's back, she employs her Faceless Men magic to pose as Bran. Bran stabs the Night King, removes his face, bam, it's Arya.

That's payoff. This was boring.

The battle wasn't even that cool, for all the show's creators hyped it up. Long, yes, but much of it was so dark that it was hard to read the action and tell what was happening. And all their strategies were terrible: They wasted the Dothraki in a single pointless charge, Jon and Dany flew around in the clouds doing nothing for minutes on end, and they sent their most vulnerable people underground to the place with dozens of pre-packaged zombies just waiting for the Night King to pop them into the microwave. Dany sat on the ground for no reason and didn't notice the horde of undead crawling onto Drogon's back, and the Night King and all his generals didn't hear the young woman sneaking up on them through the snow. Every single character, living or dead, acted in the stupidest ways possible. It's incredible to me that this episode was written by showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss, because it feels like it was written by somebody who's never seen the show before, much less has any understanding of the source material.

With three episodes left, Game of Thrones has pulled one of its final twists: It subverted all our expectations in the worst ways possible. We expected some real, impactful main character deaths in this episode, and it turned out the stakes weren't nearly as high as we thought. We expected some payoff for things Game of Thrones has spent seven seasons setting up, and the reality is much of it was simply pointless. And worst of all, we expected the culmination of Game of Thrones' most important storyline--the literal battle between life and death--to matter.

We expected Game of Thrones to be better. And unfortunately, the show did what it's done so many times before: It turned our expectations upside-down. But being surprised by Game of Thrones has never felt worse.

plenty of legit gripes in this article. The one part I disagree with is when has the NK shown any knowledge of the throne? Or Kings Landing or caring to go there? He said it was a ton of evidence the Night King was headed around Winterfell to go to Kings Landing instead to kill Cersei. I must have missed ALL of that in the show.

I think people for whatever reason can't come to grips with the fact the show might be a hell of a lot LESS deep than they thought it was. Being mad your popular theory was squashed doesn't mean the show is bad. And there's still three episodes left, idk bout yall but my hopes for this show didn't ONLY rest on the outcome with the Whitewalkers. I've seen enough zombie shows and movies, a mindless evil is not entertaining to me. I prefer the character drama.
 
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/review-game-of-thrones-episode-3-season-8-subverti/1100-6466520/

Game of Thrones Season 8 spoilers ahead.
By Michael Rougeau | @RogueCheddar on April 30, 2019 at 12:44PM PDT



We were left cold by Episode 3 of Game of Thrones Season 8, "The Long Night." Below, you'll find our review, which dives into our issues with this climactic battle with the Night King and the White Walkers.

If you're all caught up and have watched the episode, check out what happened to Jon's dragon, what happened to Ghost, and our new theories based on Episode 3. You can also refresh yourself on everyone who's died this season, including at the Battle of Winterfell, and pore over all the Easter eggs and references you might have missed this week. What did you think of this episode? Let us know in the comments below, and then take a look ahead at the Episode 4 preview, which shows the forces in the north beginning to ramp up for one final battle--this one against Cersei, the Lannisters, and the Golden Company.

Through all the twists and turns over the last eight seasons, Game of Thrones has never been straightforward--until now. Season 8 Episode 3, "The Long Night," brought one of Game of Thrones' main storylines to its conclusion. The battle with the dead is over, the Night King is defeated, and the forces of the living are victorious. And it happened in the least inventive, most predictable way imaginable.

It's possible that I've been immersed in the world of Game of Thrones theories, speculating, and prophecies for too long. But that's a huge part of the fun of being a Game of Thrones fan: The books, and sometimes the show, are crafted so densely, with layers on layers of meaning and allusion, that combing through line-by-line to suss out every last secret feels endlessly rewarding. Fan communities across the internet have been cranking out theories for literally decades, even as the pace of book releases slowed to a crawl (and apparently stopped altogether at some point).

All these years of deep-digging have sometimes made it hard to enjoy the show, which is (understandably) simplified compared with the source material. But it also gives the series' biggest fans a huge amount of perspective: We can see all the possibilities for which the groundwork has been expertly laid over the years. And in "The Long Night," those possibilities all amounted to basically nothing.

Where do I even start? I guess with the fact that it seems like Game of Thrones, the show, has just missed the point of the entire series: that the squabbles between the great houses of Westeros are nothing compared with the unstoppable force of nature slowly bearing down on them from the wintery north. Game of Thrones was never supposed to actually be about the battle for the throne--it's supposed to be about the characters coming together to realize what was really important. The quintessential human fallacy, according to the brain of George R.R. Martin, is believing with absolute certainty that your personal battles are the most important fights that exist. It's a failure of perspective.

Now, with three episodes left, the series' ultimate threat died with a whimper, and its most short-sighted characters turned out to be right, their selfishness justified. As we saw in the preview for next week's episode, the survivors are going right back to their squabbles. They won the great war, but lost the thematic throughline. Why did any of this matter? To give Arya a cool hero moment? So Bran could keep doing absolutely nothing? So Theon could die pointlessly?

The litany of "whys," "whats," and "wheres" won't stop marching through my mind: What has Melisandre been doing in Volantis since last season? Where was undead Rickon Stark (or any other recognizable character) when the Stark corpses came alive in the crypts? Why was there so much foreshadowing about the crypts if nobody important was going to die down there? Why does the show refuse to acknowledge Ghost or include the direwolf in any meaningful way? Why did Jon's revelation to Dany--one of the most important plotlines in the entire series--occur right before this battle if it wasn't going to have any bearing on the events of this episode?


There's no catharsis or payoff in anything that happened in "The Long Night." Yes, it was cool to see Jon and Dany tearing through the sky on their dragons laying waste to the army of the dead with massive gouts of flame. But this episode felt weirdly self-contained, like everything that's happened leading up to it didn't matter. Every fan theory I've seen about the battle with the dead--whether it's a theory from the books 20 years ago or from Reddit last week--is immeasurably more interesting than what actually happened.

One of my favorites until now was that the Night King wouldn't actually show up at this battle--that the attack on Winterfell was a feint, and he was flying to King's Landing to roast Cersei on her throne. There was a ton of evidence for it, but it still would have been a shock. And even better, it would have fit that ultimate series theme--that the fight for the throne was a petty squabble, and the people who failed to see the big picture (i.e. Cersei) would pay a price for it. Instead, the Night King took the bait at Winterfell and died like an idiot. He took his entire race with him, and we never learned anything about them besides "White Walkers=bad."

There are so, so many things that will just never be paid off now. Dany unified the Dothraki tribes and brought them to Westeros so they could die, one and all, in a single ill-conceived charge (seriously, what was the strategy there?). What was the point of Melisandre's entire storyline--the Lord of Light, the resurrections, the Prince that was Promised? Was it really all so she could light some swords on fire and tell Arya to go stab a dude?

Even within the confines of this episode's story--Night King is just a dumb Big Bad Guy after all, he comes to Winterfell, he gets killed--there are endless more rewarding ways it could have gone down. Remember when Dany magically survived Khal Drogo's funeral pyre in Season 1? Now imagine Jon hadn't told Dany about his true identity last season, and instead she had realized there was more to him than she thought when he stepped into her dragonfire, unharmed, and stabbed the Night King in the back. Or it's Arya--but instead of nonsensically jumping onto the Night King's back, she employs her Faceless Men magic to pose as Bran. Bran stabs the Night King, removes his face, bam, it's Arya.

That's payoff. This was boring.

The battle wasn't even that cool, for all the show's creators hyped it up. Long, yes, but much of it was so dark that it was hard to read the action and tell what was happening. And all their strategies were terrible: They wasted the Dothraki in a single pointless charge, Jon and Dany flew around in the clouds doing nothing for minutes on end, and they sent their most vulnerable people underground to the place with dozens of pre-packaged zombies just waiting for the Night King to pop them into the microwave. Dany sat on the ground for no reason and didn't notice the horde of undead crawling onto Drogon's back, and the Night King and all his generals didn't hear the young woman sneaking up on them through the snow. Every single character, living or dead, acted in the stupidest ways possible. It's incredible to me that this episode was written by showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss, because it feels like it was written by somebody who's never seen the show before, much less has any understanding of the source material.

With three episodes left, Game of Thrones has pulled one of its final twists: It subverted all our expectations in the worst ways possible. We expected some real, impactful main character deaths in this episode, and it turned out the stakes weren't nearly as high as we thought. We expected some payoff for things Game of Thrones has spent seven seasons setting up, and the reality is much of it was simply pointless. And worst of all, we expected the culmination of Game of Thrones' most important storyline--the literal battle between life and death--to matter.

We expected Game of Thrones to be better. And unfortunately, the show did what it's done so many times before: It turned our expectations upside-down. But being surprised by Game of Thrones has never felt worse.

This right here man!! These are my feelings. GREAT article
 
The show always kept the deep magic, long night theorizing at arms length,

and once battle of winterfell was episode 3 it was clear they weren't going to try and payoff all the things that GRRM threw out there.
 
2. Look man it's clear you thought the show was about the dude in a rubber mask, clearly the writers didn't.

Clearly the writers ran out of source material and did it their own way. The only thing we can presume is that some of what happens in the next 3 episodes is part of the book finale as well.
 
once he's done with the scouting reports of all the NL EAST bullpens.


2. Look man it's clear you thought the show was about the dude in a rubber mask, clearly the writers didn't.

So do we just completely disregard seasons 5,6, and 7 as minor distractions? And disregard every single time we've been told "these fights for the throne don't matter in the large scheme of things"? Those words and scenes were written by the SAME writers. Hardhome, the episode that's supposed to show us how important the WW threat is, doesn't even happen in the books (and was a great addition by the writers)
 
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