Official DESIIGNER thread VOL. New English mixtape out

[Proposition Joe]

I agree.

Man I think Kodak Black said some real **** about Drake recently. Youngin' basically told that dude pay me and my royalties if you gonna hop on my ****

Youngin would actually be more popular if he did a song with drake, remixes sometimes help you out to a broader audience. I don't see what was real about his statement unless you just flat out hate drake.

That's enough of me defending drake because I personally think he's a manufactured fraud, however I understand how huge his fan base is at that he does bring a difference audience to lesser known rappers.

 

[$tacy]

Everyone doesn't wanna be k own as the dude that Drake put on. He gets credit for taking your song, using your style and rapping on it. I. Return a few suburban white kids and college kids will listen to it for a few weeks and never support anything u do. Might as well not sell out your core and keep feeding them, it will always pay off. Look at kevin gates. Those same dudes that was listening to Tuesday when it was a drake remix have no clue who makonnen is. Look at him now, basically signed over the song he wrote, laid a melody down on over to drake. When that song was already catching steam and all he had to do was be patient.

Kodak letting drake on a remix is selling out everything he stands for for a couple fans that relate nothing to him. He speaks for a certain audience, most of that audience knows him or will eventually. Drake can't add anything to a song like skrt musically. Hopefully these young dudes stop selling their souls for 6 mths of shine.

 

[cashbanks]

Like kodak black said if Drake was really trying to show love he'd put you on his album instead of just commandeering your wave

 

[Proposition Joe]

I don't care about any of those trash *** flash in the pan artist, the only artist I'll give credit to in this drake fiasco is the weeknd, and that's because he's the only artist to sustain major success years after deals involvement and didn't just fall off. You can tell take care was the weeknd and fraudby jacked it

 

[Maximus Meridius]

I agree.

Man I think Kodak Black said some real **** about Drake recently. Youngin' basically told that dude pay me and my royalties if you gonna hop on my ****

Youngin would actually be more popular if he did a song with drake, remixes sometimes help you out to a broader audience. I don't see what was real about his statement unless you just flat out hate drake.

That's enough of me defending drake because I personally think he's a manufactured fraud, however I understand how huge his fan base is at that he does bring a difference audience to lesser known rappers.

Some dudes want to build their name on their own. And it can backfire. The dude Makonen woulda been better off long term not having Drake on that song. It was immediate success but that's it. Drake by his name alone took over Tuesday. If he had kept the song for himself, it woulda been his hit song only and he probably woulda been able to put out more hits. Instead he's looked at as "the dude Drake put on".


New rappers gotta be careful with these co-signs. It can help in the short term but a lot of people will look you as that person's artist even if they're not signed to them, or have anything to do with their music.

 

[trynafeelmink]

Why did Drake SEEK these guys out, and ask to be on their songs? None of those artists were knocking at Drakes door. Drake begged these do, to get a feature verse on their songs.

It is always funny when people leave out important information and other factoids

I've been a lil critical of Drake lately, but i'm pretty sure he wasn't Begging to get on these tracks

Some dudes want to build their name on their own. And it can backfire. The dude Makonen woulda been better off long term not having Drake on that song. It was immediate success but that's it. Drake by his name alone took over Tuesday. If he had kept the song for himself, it woulda been his hit song only and he probably woulda been able to put out more hits. Instead he's looked at as "the dude Drake put on".


New rappers gotta be careful with these co-signs. It can help in the short term but a lot of people will look you as that person's artist even if they're not signed to them, or have anything to do with their music.

That ***** was never gonna pop because he's basura

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Fetty garbage too and look at him.

 

[Proposition Joe]

Fetty has been hot for one year, let's see how 2017 looks for him

 

[comptonprince]

Fetty has been hot for one year, let's see how 2017 looks for him

He better have a good 1 Blood have a baby every 6 months it seems 

 

[str8drop]

Some dudes want to build their name on their own. And it can backfire. The dude Makonen woulda been better off long term not having Drake on that song. It was immediate success but that's it. Drake by his name alone took over Tuesday. If he had kept the song for himself, it woulda been his hit song only and he probably woulda been able to put out more hits. Instead he's looked at as "the dude Drake put on".


New rappers gotta be careful with these co-signs. It can help in the short term but a lot of people will look you as that person's artist even if they're not signed to them, or have anything to do with their music.

That ***** was never gonna pop because he's basura

???

Drake wouldn't have hopped on the song if it wasn't already somewhat popping tho 

 

 

[polosanddunks]

Like kodak black said if Drake was really trying to show love he'd put you on his album instead of just commandeering your wave

Exactly

 

[Proposition Joe]

Just curious of you guys that keep bringing him up. Exactly what wave does Kodak black have that drake needs?

 

[polosanddunks]

Just curious of you guys that keep bringing him up. Exactly what wave does Kodak black have that drake needs?

Your not serious right now . What wave hasnt Drake tried/rode on. He was even gonna hop on RHQ wave when "Some Type of Way" wave was going on but he didnt in time he said.

We arent saying Drake NEEDS his wave but he def rides em.

 

[$tacy]

Just curious of you guys that keep bringing him up. Exactly what wave does Kodak black have that drake needs?

He has a buzz. He can be on the radio all day everyday and have his name buzzing by giving 16 bars with someone else's flow on an already established song. Just like he does when he makes his albums. Beat, flow, cadence is already there he just fills in the blanks.

And he did lightweight beg future to be on ds2. There's no features on the album and he called when the album was done and told him like man u gotta let me on this, it's dirty sprite 2, I gotta be apart of this. Fortunately it's one of the few skippable songs, idk what I'd do if he was on stick talk or thought it was a drought.

 

[trynafeelmink]

Fetty garbage too and look at him.

Fetty music is better than most people in his lane

 

[cashbanks]

Dude keeps using the word need to frame the argument the way he wants

Drake doesn't NEED anybody's wave but he also doesn't have the most appeal when it comes to those more interested in street music or trap music hopping on songs with Migos, Kodak, etc etc does him nothing but favors putting him in front of an audience that 9/10 times doesn't listen to dude like that.

not to mention his fan base doesn't know these dudes so they think the song and wave belong to Drake

and it automatically puts that artist "under" him because people like Angel will insist drake doesn't "need" anybodies wave and he was doing them a favor.

Drake's a greaseball but he ain't stupid

 

[$tacy]

Bravo bravo [emoji]128079[/emoji] couldn't have said it better myself

 

[Proposition Joe]

Dude keeps using the word need to frame the argument the way he wants

Drake doesn't NEED anybody's wave but he also doesn't have the most appeal when it comes to those more interested in street music or trap music hopping on songs with Migos, Kodak, etc etc does him nothing but favors putting him in front of an audience that 9/10 times doesn't listen to dude like that.

not to mention his fan base doesn't know these dudes so they think the song and wave belong to Drake

and it automatically puts that artist "under" him because people like Angel will insist drake doesn't "need" anybodies wave and he was doing them a favor.

Drake's a greaseball but he ain't stupid

I'll buy this explanation because you're saying drake doesn't need to do it, he just does it to get in with the trap crowd. I'm not going to disagree. It's the people that say drake needs to do it or that he does it to stay relevant are the ones I disagree with

 

[Peep Game]

Fetty garbage too and look at him.

Fetty music is better than most people in his lane

1) Future







2) Fetty Wap
3) Young Thug



4) Rich Homie Quan


5) MoeRay


?

 

[kingfoamnyc]

Listened to fettys album yesterday. Damn near every song on that **** was a hit and had consistent radio play

 

[cashbanks]

He does do it to stay relevant on some level tho.

He's able to keep his name in the mix all without doing any leg work by releasing his own original material.

Think about if an artist is buzzing you almost assume a drake remix is coming at this point.

And then it drops and everyone wants to credit Drake for what some kid has been grinding for on his own.

It really is some snake ****.

 

[$tacy]

Pusha is a genius. The whole future ripoff thing is the sell point. 

Look at this thread. 38 posts and the guy doesn't even 5 songs out. And when more stuff comes out, everyone's going to be listening to see if it sounds like future or not.

Even tho I agree with some of it, a larger portion of this thread is music tan. It was outrage, tan, other copies, still no new music, tan.

 

[trynafeelmink]

He does do it to stay relevant on some level tho.

He's able to keep his name in the mix all without doing any leg work by releasing his own original material.

Think about if an artist is buzzing you almost assume a drake remix is coming at this point.

And then it drops and everyone wants to credit Drake for what some kid has been grinding for on his own.

It really is some snake ****.

there's a big difference between your song buzzing on mixtapes and clubs into legit being a real HIT record, there's no doubt that Drake doing the feature helps that immensely. The only time a drake feature has "hurt" an artist is when said artist can't follow up... Migos, Future, Fetty all have either remained relevant or have continued to put out more and more hits afterwards & none of them are considered guys Drake put on.

& honestly it's not snake **** because him doing the song is now giving u a spotlight to show a mass audience what you bring to music. Hell the fact that he's asking these artist permission is actually pretty fair considering the ***** could just straight up do an unofficial remix like most rappers and completely **** up any chance of the OG song blowing

 

[Proposition Joe]

Rick Ross, future, craponnen, asap rocky, and dj Khaleds highest charting songs all feature drake.

Meek, Wayne, Kendricks 2nd highest charted song features drake.

It's safe to say that since '10 drake is the one giving out the stimulus packages.

 

[trynafeelmink]

Rick Ross, future, craponnen, asap rocky, and dj Khaleds highest charting songs all feature drake.

Meek, Wayne, Kendricks 2nd highest charted song features drake.

It's safe to say that since '10 drake is the one giving out the stimulus packages.

this is also an EXTREME, while his feature did help All those artist you named except Makonnen didn't need a Drake feature to to what their doing. these collabs are mutuallu beneficial in different aspects, Drake is absolutely gonna get you more radio play, bigger fanbase.... in turn he gets to be mixed in certain demographics and keeps his name in play without having to drop mixtapes of free material.