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This. Softness ain't everything when it comes to discussions qualityThis is the only thing that ever mattered.
You young folks came in here and started pushing your finger against leather and all of this went out the window.
On the 2016 Black/Red 1 quality talk they blow the 2013s out of the water in almost every way. Comfort and fit are better than the 2013 and leather is improved as well. The color talk is all opinion but it isn't even that bad only when comparing it to other versions of the cw but I don't mind the darker red as much either