Official 2017 Knicks Offseason thread, Phil Jackson gone

I don't have any problem conceding to Kyrie in a direct comparison. Kyrie has earned my respect after that finals performance towards the end. Kyrie doesn't get nearly enough credit with LeBron hogging it all, but that's a topic for the NBA thread.

If Derrick was at mvp level though...

Sigh

Big ifs. Probably will never get to that if.

Anyway, I would consider Kyrie the number 2 PG in the league even though he is mainly score first.
Lol, even if he was at MVP level, Knicks would still want a pass first point guard. 

Rondo is available, you guys don't want Rondo? 
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knicks fans woudl rather have charlie ward/ as a pg
RONDO FTW
 
Kyrie and Rose's game are somewhat similar, minus Kyrie's higher efficiency and basketball IQ. There was a solid 3-5 min stretch last game where he would've lost the game himself if the Pacers were on due his bad decisions, like he took the game away from everyone legitimately stopping the ball movement. Cavs get away with it due to having a fantastic ball handler in Bron, even then they're still searching for another. We have none of that luxury. Even so, before LeBron returned to Cleveland, Kyrie was dishing.
 
Rose has been okay but the team would be better off with a pass first PG rather than a score first PG.

It's not a coincidence Melo had the best season of his career with Prigioni & Kidd getting heavy minutes.
 
Rose has been okay but the team would be better off with a pass first PG rather than a score first PG.

It's not a coincidence Melo had the best season of his career with Prigioni & Kidd getting heavy minutes.
Would you take Rondo? (Not anything related to Rose...) lol 

I feel like everything I say would automatically refer to Rose.. Lol, please don't guys. I usually speak about things in general unless I direct the subject of my conversation. 
 
i wouldn't mind a backcourt of Rondo and Rose coming off the bench. i would ONLY give Rondo a one year deal though. he's too much of a distraction and constantly butts heads with the coaching staff. we don't need any more distractions. i'm cool with Rose coming back if we can't get a better replacement. if he gets the max, i'm taking a break from this team. Phil better not **** up and cripple us even worse after giving Noah all that money.
 
Rondo, Jerian Grants back up!? :lol Rose has played well but isn't the floor general type. He's played better than I expected so far and even better since he went awol..
 
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Were not even competitive without rose. Yea this homers annoying and he was trying to lose last night but he's still our second best player.

Pero queremos rubio así él puede jaja con Willy y kp lol

Also I'm sorry but horny justs sounds more and more like a loser. Hes getting better in game and that's what matter but Some of his quotes r terrible guy aint a leader of men.
 
Rose has been a good score first PG, but he's not what this team needs. This team needs a distributor and a leader.

A large part of our problems this year is because he doesnt play defense and everyone blows by him, and he makes NO ONE around him better.
 
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Would you take Rondo? (Not anything related to Rose...) lol 

I feel like everything I say would automatically refer to Rose.. Lol, please don't guys. I usually speak about things in general unless I direct the subject of my conversation. 

No. Rondo has been a cancer to every team he's been on since Pierce & Garnett left Boston. Also, he's not good anymore.

I'm talking about someone like Rubio. Someone that has a high basketball IQ. Someone that puts his teammates in position to be successful.

I won't even bring up defense. :lol
 
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Rondo, Jerian Grants back up!? :lol Rose has played well but isn't the floor general type. He's played better than I expected so far and even better since he went awol..

Rose has played well. I'm not knocking him at all.

Just think we'd be better off with a pass first PG.
 
Rondo averaged double digit assists last year. he can't be THAT washed. give him a similar deal to Jennings and then cut him if it gets bad. what's the worst that can happen?
 
Rose has been a good score first PG, but he's not what this team needs. This team needs a distributor and a leader.

A large part of our problems this year is because he doesnt play defense and everyone blows by him, and he makes NO ONE around him better.
Actually, The Knicks are better when Rose is on the floor. Teammates have actually shot the ball better WHEN he passes 
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The Knicks average 111.2 points per 100 possessions when he is playing and 103.1 when he is on the bench. - NYTimes
 
I really do hope Horny play Willy much more tonight. Willy is good, that boy has some good footwork and he's not easily movable unlike Noah. 

That juke he pulled on Al Jefferson was nasty. 
 
Thats shocking. I watched every game this season and I dont remember him setting up teammates for easy shots more than 2-3 times.
 
Rondo, Jerian Grants back up!? :lol Rose has played well but isn't the floor general type. He's played better than I expected so far and even better since he went awol..

Rose has played well. I'm not knocking him at all.

Just think we'd be better off with a pass first PG.
I said that when we traded for DRose but he's played better than I expected still..
 
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