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Can we do more Spo talk?? Please, it's so entertaining. Seriously, just keep going back and forth.
One man brings out so much hate/love. It's amazing. I don't want to see it end
I had two notifications today. One said the heat are scared bosh will never be cleared. The next one said the heat fully expect bosh to play next season. I'm confused.
why would pop be fired, except for being an immense jerk to reporters@TEKtheMAESTRO
Of course the Heat had a plan in the 2nd half, the Raptors were just better that night. Like Tyson says, "Everyone has a plan until you get punched in the face." The Heat got punched in the face in the 4th quarter and couldn't recover. The coach will ALWAYS make mistakes, they are only magnified in losses.
At this point nothing Spo can do will ever be enough for fans such as yourself. He's won championships, he's improved young talent, and he's even coached superstars with huge egos to success they have never duplicated on other teams. He's competitive year in and year out and continually gets the best from his players and most importantly he's well respected by his players and peers. But I'll ask you this... Should Gregg Popovich be fired along with Spo?
By your description the Spurs should've gotten rid of Pop years ago and should definitely fire him this off season. The Spurs hadn't won a Championship in 2 years and just like the Heat lost an elimination game on the road in the semi-finals.
I'm just saying...
@roboski
no no no no and more no. not a single name you listed is good for us. ryan anderson? in 2016? actually... 2017? NOPE! Gasol is 6 minutes from doing a kobe farewell tour. Noah? How can u even suggest him with his history with miami. Dudley?
Nobodies mad with Amar'e. Don't really care if he returns or not, but if he doesn't wanna' be here than that's cool
I think if we try to make any rounds in FA, that we need another bonafide scorer(Ryan Anderson, Pau Gasol, maybe Mirza, ???) and cheap solid big man (Jon Leuer, Noah, ???) and maybe a glue guy, but budget won't be sitting pretty (Jared Dudley, ????).
Not much we could do, would be willing to see Joe and Deng go for some other additions with Wade/Whiteside
Wasn't serious about Noah, just throwing some names out there in a really daint Free Agency pool. Anderson and Gasol are decent scorers, we need better scorers... we are beggars and not the choosers. Joe... I never liked Joe. Grinds out the offense with his Iso's, passive aggressive (understatement) defense, and his low-volume, indecisive shooting. I hope we do not bring him back, even for the Min. I would rather Deng gets paid and comes back before him but with our lack of assets, I would rather we spend that money on a scorer or back-up Center and promote Winslow (Gotta do it sometime, definitely no better time)
no no no no and more no. not a single name you listed is good for us. ryan anderson? in 2016? actually... 2017? NOPE! Gasol is 6 minutes from doing a kobe farewell tour. Noah? How can u even suggest him with his history with miami. Dudley?
joe needs to stay. he was here for half a season and put up some VERY good effort in that time. dont be a prisoner of the moment and see he had a bad series just now so he needs to go. that doesn't negate what hes done up until 2 weeks ago. deng... i dunno im on the fence. his defense is solid, but his shot is falling off. nothing a summer of practice can't cure.
winslow has the tools of defense. which is EXCELLENT. defense is something that really cant be taught. its a mindset. u either have it or u dont. offense can be taught, quickly. if he put his mind to it, he could come back NEXT SEASON with at minimum a good midrange, new handles, and a decent 3. but thats up to him and the coaching staff.
Wasn't serious about Noah, just throwing some names out there in a really daint Free Agency pool. Anderson and Gasol are decent scorers, we need better scorers... we are beggars and not the choosers. Joe... I never liked Joe. Grinds out the offense with his Iso's, passive aggressive (understatement) defense, and his low-volume, indecisive shooting. I hope we do not bring him back, even for the Min. I would rather Deng gets paid and comes back before him but with our lack of assets, I would rather we spend that money on a scorer or back-up Center and promote Winslow (Gotta do it sometime, definitely no better time)
Just how I feel
Yea' with FA looking how it's looking our best chance at rapidly improving our situation is putting Winslow to the fire and giving him some real responsibility and hopefully he takes to it immediately
winslow has the tools of defense. which is EXCELLENT. defense is something that really cant be taught. its a mindset. u either have it or u dont. offense can be taught, quickly. if he put his mind to it, he could come back NEXT SEASON with at minimum a good midrange, new handles, and a decent 3. but thats up to him and the coaching staff.
i want them (coaching staff) to link with dragic and come up with fast tempo sets, and plays. we've been coasting on talent instead of skill and its run its course. dragic loves uptempo. we have the legs to run uptempo at LEAST half the time. and weve seen it works in our favor. its time to buckle down. like u said, theres nothing really to snatch in the FA pool right now. time to improve what we do have while trimming the fat
Was just going to say that, if we could keep Hassan and get Rich and Winslow starting at the 3 & 4 we could be a much more athletic rebounding team (as all as more of them start to learn to box out)I think next year with improvement Josh and Winslow should be starting. Josh can play the 3 he's long enough and plays good D. Wade dragic Josh Winslow and bosh. This is all of course if we don't resign whiteside and bosh returns. If we resign whiteside and bosh returns we can play big and small. Wade dragic Winslow bosh whiteside. With TJ and Josh coming off the bench for the guards. Maybe mcbob can find his shot in the off season and not get hurt during the regular.
We could definitely push the ball up tempo with that line up .Was just going to say that, if we could keep Hassan and get Rich and Winslow starting at the 3 & 4 we could be a much more athletic rebounding team (as all as more of them start to learn to box out)
They both have potential as offensive players imo, starting with those guys would be a great step for them and the team
Was just going to say that, if we could keep Hassan and get Rich and Winslow starting at the 3 & 4 we could be a much more athletic rebounding team (as all as more of them start to learn to box out)
They both have potential as offensive players imo, starting with those guys would be a great step for them and the team
i dont buy half the stuff pat is saying. but i do like that we made whiteside priority #1. wade shooting better cuz of spos program? nonsensical. deng was a corner 3 shooter before he got here, and his numbers have gone down lately as far as shooting goes. i know nothing about webber. is he nice? nice things to say about mcroberts? lol. i wonder what haslem will do. i LOVE him, and the history is obvious. but does he still want to play? he already gets limited minutes. if he wants a position on staff its obviously waiting on him. fizdale needs a promotion *cough*My takeaways from Pat Riley's presser...
Very high on Spo and his program. Brought it up multiple times and credits his system for making Richardson and Dengs such an effective 3 point shooters. Also mentioned how Wade improved shooting performance in the playoffs by going through Spo's shooting program. Overall, Spo and his staff seem to be something Riley is proud of. The way the team will play moving forward will be dictated by the players the team has.
Hassan Whiteside is the team's #1 priority this off season to the point where he's offered to take him around town to look for houses. They felt he came into the program with a lot of anger, but he's now past that and feels he's ready to take more responsibility. Feels his defensive ability make the team more explosive on offense.
See's Winslow as a front court player down the line, while still being able to be a play maker. Spoke highly of Richardson and expects Tyler Johnson and Briante Webber to make a big impact this summer league. See's them as two way players.
When asked about Haslem, Pat says it up to Haslem to decide what he whats to do. He still thinks Haslem can be effective within a certain role and praised his leadership ability and credits him for setting the tone in the locker room. One of the main reasons things ran smoothly off the court.
He challenged Dragic. Says there are no more excuses this time around. He needs to improve some aspects of his game. Spoke of times when the coach's system breaks down and how he needs to be the type of player to make things happen if the system fails. Will have him on a workout program in the off season.
Riley also had nice things to say about McRoberts and says his play, while unorthodox, can be very effective. Just needs to be healthy.
As for free agency, Riley still says the best way to win is with proven players. If the opportunity to land a big whale presents itself they will explore that possibility. Talked about how they had a set foundation during the "big three" era, and talked about how he likes the players we have and need to get back to that.
Edit:
Forgot about Bosh. He says they are still figuring things out with Bosh. They want him back, but it's still unclear about his health.
Also forgot about Wade. Says they will sit down and figure things out whether its a long term contract or short term. Considers him a lifer like Haslem and will be on the team moving forward.