Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

[MajinZuub]

Westbrook tied bird for 5th in all time trip dubs wow.

When it's all said n done okc had a young core of 3 future HOFers

All 3 are top 5 MVP candidates at the very least right now
Can't believe they ****** that one up. Chose to pay Ibaka over Beard

 

[MVP]

Westbrook tied bird for 5th in all time trip dubs wow.

When it's all said n done okc had a young core of 3 future HOFers

Not only HOFers but at least KD and Russ will be all time greats and two of the most unique and gifted talents to ever play the game. Damb shame KD dipped.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

17-4 is the record when he's hunting stats. #letthemhate

Yeah I never saw the issue with Russ stealing rebounds. Who cares

If he's hurting the team by being selfish then that's a different story, but I don't particularly see that from him

 

[a-friend]

KD is happy though.

That's good for the League no doubt.

 

Just his interviews now, compared to what they were, says it all.

 

[MajinZuub]

17-4 is the record when he's hunting stats. #letthemhate

Yeah I never saw the issue with Russ stealing rebounds. Who cares

If he's hurting the team by being selfish then that's a different story, but I don't particularly see that from him

I don't know if he's hurting the team since they're not that great but his decision making is extremely erratic and not the best a lot of the time

 

[friscostylez]

Westbrook tied bird for 5th in all time trip dubs wow.

When it's all said n done okc had a young core of 3 future HOFers

All 3 are top 5 MVP candidates at the very least right now
Can't believe they ****** that one up. Chose to pay Ibaka over Beard

i might be wrong but isn't that the huge misconception of the whole ordeal? they could have kept everybody but they didn't want to in the luxury tax. someone correct me if i'm wrong tho.

 

[reputory]

These 3 are gods gift to the game all so great and revolutionary

 

[Maximus Meridius]

It was the same way last year with Russ and his triple doubles. Think they only lost one or two games when he got one

That was with KD and Serge though. What he's doing this season and the correlation is 100x more impressive given the roster around him. This is the greatest season I've seen by a player given what he's doing on a nightly basis and what he has to work with.

Whoa. Kobe in 05-06 wininng 45 games in a STACKED West with that TRASH roster takes that title IMO.

 

[drewsone]

Don't think Russ will get MVP for political reasons lol

 

[MVP]

I don't know if he's hurting the team since they're not that great but his decision making is extremely erratic and not the best a lot of the time

That's been Russ from day one though. More is thrust upon his shoulders than ever, if he doesn't do everything it doesn't get done and they have no chance, which is why the efficiency and turnovers are something that you can live with. He's bringing so much more on a positive end.

 

[a-friend]

 

 

I don't know if he's hurting the team since they're not that great but his decision making is extremely erratic and not the best a lot of the time

Damn

Tough crowd

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Don't think Russ will get MVP for political reasons lol

Harden will get it if he keeps them in 3rd place and he should. Even though I think Russ>Harden.

 

[htg designs]

yall seen this madness

 

[MajinZuub]

 

 

I don't know if he's hurting the team since they're not that great but his decision making is extremely erratic and not the best a lot of the time

Damn
Tough crowd

I mean am I wrong?

Harden is putting up almost the same numbers with a 7% difference in EFG% which is HUGE. It's not like his teammates are all that either it's just a bunch of shooters and Beverley Honestly, Kanter, Dipo & Adams>any of Harden's teammates. Gordon has been having a great year though I will say that.
What Russ is doing is historic and I acknowledge that. I just wish Harden was getting the same love from the media. Beard has actually been trying on defense this year too

 

[a-friend]

 

 

 

 

I don't know if he's hurting the team since they're not that great but his decision making is extremely erratic and not the best a lot of the time

Damn
Tough crowd

I mean am I wrong?

 It's not like his teammates are all that either it's just a bunch of shooters and Beverley

Honestly, Kanter, Dipo & Adams>any of Harden's teammates.

I guess

 

[MajinZuub]

I guess

The team Harden has is more tailored to their system and him than Westbrook's is, so I'm not trying to take it where you think I am. Just saying it should be considered.


Beard's a better shooter, dribbler, passer and shot creator though

Curious to see when Russ' athleticism starts dipping and how he adjusts his game. Dude plays with an unrivaled passion and I don't doubt he'll try to extend his greatness.

 

[MVP]

The team Harden has is more tailored to their system and him than Westbrook's is, so I'm not trying to take it where you think I am. Just saying it should be considered.


Beard's a better shooter, dribbler, passer and shot creator though

Curious to see when Russ' athleticism starts dipping and how he adjusts his game. Dude plays with an unrivaled passion and I don't doubt he'll try to extend his greatness.

Since you want to bring up advanced stats, Russ has a higher assist % and lower turnover %. So I don't know if that better passer, dribbler thing flies.

 

[MajinZuub]

The team Harden has is more tailored to their system and him than Westbrook's is, so I'm not trying to take it where you think I am. Just saying it should be considered.


Beard's a better shooter, dribbler, passer and shot creator though

Curious to see when Russ' athleticism starts dipping and how he adjusts his game. Dude plays with an unrivaled passion and I don't doubt he'll try to extend his greatness.

Since you want to bring up advanced stats, Russ has a higher assist % and lower turnover %. So I don't know if that better passer, dribbler thing flies.

I brought up ONE advanced stat and it's a significant difference. They're neck and neck in TO's and assists so I doubt either are close to a 7% difference. Feel free to correct me. Have you watched them play? It's kind of obvious Harden is better at those things Like it's painfully obvious he's more skilled at both What dribble moves does Russ have? It's go north and try to finish at the rim or pull up midrange. He doesn't really shake defenders off. The passing is kind of a given off tape alone.
I'm not even trying to argue against a player I like but you've argued intangibles up until this point then dropped what I assume is a mild difference in 2 advanced stats I don't even check for.
I said from the get this is all how I feel and have no problem with anyone arguing Russ.

 

[hankmoody]

Waiters

Red, black, and white Chevy, now I'm riding Dion.

 

[MVP]

I brought up ONE advanced stat and it's a significant difference. They're neck and neck in TO's and assists so I doubt either are close to a 7% difference. Feel free to correct me. Have you watched them play? It's kind of obvious Harden is better at those things Like it's painfully obvious he's more skilled at both What dribble moves does Russ have? It's go north and try to finish at the rim or pull up midrange. He doesn't really shake defenders off. The passing is kind of a given off tape alone.
I'm not even trying to argue against a player I like but you've argued intangibles up until this point then dropped what I assume is a mild difference in 2 advanced stats I don't even check for.
I said from the get this is all how I feel and have no problem with anyone arguing Russ.

Russ' assist % is 6% higher than Harden's. And his TO% is 4% lower despite having a 8% higher usage rate. Along with his reb% being 8% higher as well.

Also what do you consider more impressive Harden getting assists with all those 3 point shooters or Russ getting his with almost no shooting around him at all?

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Smush.. whoa

Must be in need of money or something

Look like he in one of the Matrix movies or something

 

[pums]

I'm curious to see how Russ will age for a dude heavily reliant on his athleticism it might not end well

 

[rbk93]

 
Let me ask you guys this though.....Is it not a blow to the MVP award or perhaps Awards in General for Basketball if they don't award an MVP to Russ if he maintains this avg until Seasons end?

I mean what validity does an "MVP Trophy" have, if Russ didn't get it because his team isn't "Top 3"?

It's a blow to the award if he does win it given the current circumstances.

 

[MajinZuub]

I brought up ONE advanced stat and it's a significant difference. They're neck and neck in TO's and assists so I doubt either are close to a 7% difference. Feel free to correct me. Have you watched them play? It's kind of obvious Harden is better at those things Like it's painfully obvious he's more skilled at both What dribble moves does Russ have? It's go north and try to finish at the rim or pull up midrange. He doesn't really shake defenders off. The passing is kind of a given off tape alone.
I'm not even trying to argue against a player I like but you've argued intangibles up until this point then dropped what I assume is a mild difference in 2 advanced stats I don't even check for.
I said from the get this is all how I feel and have no problem with anyone arguing Russ.

Russ' assist % is 6% higher than Harden's. And his TO% is 4% lower despite having a 8% higher usage rate. Along with his reb% being 8% higher as well.

You basically discredited the assist percentage stat by saying his usage is 8% higher. You know how it's calculated right?
Turnover % is a "per 100 play" calculation. If that's something you're into more power to you I guess.
Like I said I don't care about either too. But it feels like youre just googling numbers to throw at me.
I never said anything arguing rebounding at any point. Russ has impressed me with that and I wouldnt debate it.
Honestly, had no clue Russ' usage is 8% higher which makes what Harden is doing more impressive to me
Both advanced stats you brought up you used to argue Russ is a more skilled passer and dribbler but you haven't explained how. And he isn't. His all time athleticism and explosiveness is how he dominates and there's nothing wrong with that. And I hate most advanced stats tbh EFG% is one of like 2/3 I value.

 

[MVP]

You basically discredited the assist percentage stat by saying his usage is 8% higher. You know how it's calculated right?
Turnover % is a "per 100 play" calculation. If that's something you're into more power to you I guess.
Like I said I don't care about either too. But it feels like youre just googling numbers to throw at me.
I never said anything arguing rebounding at any point. Russ has impressed me with that and I wouldnt debate it.
Honestly, had no clue Russ' usage is 8% higher which makes what Harden is doing more impressive to me

It's not discredited at all. But you saying Harden is a better dribbler and passer isn't exactly accurate either. MDA's system has always inflated numbers in scoring for role players and assist numbers for the PG.