**Official 2010 NY knicks pre-season thread** 10/6 vs T-wolves (PARIS) 2PM MSG/NBA TV

Originally Posted by LIVE BOY D

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Im trying so hard not to get my hopes up on Melo. After all a year is a long time.
Glad this is finally a playoff team (7th or 8th) and anyone who doesn't agree is crazy
 
Im trying so hard not to get my hopes up on Melo. After all a year is a long time.
Glad this is finally a playoff team (7th or 8th) and anyone who doesn't agree is crazy
 
if they dont get melo knicks will win 34 games this upcoming year. i dont see how this team is any better than last years
 
if they dont get melo knicks will win 34 games this upcoming year. i dont see how this team is any better than last years
 
Originally Posted by tim teufel

if they dont get melo knicks will win 34 games this upcoming year. i dont see how this team is any better than last years
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you do realize that this is the same 30 win Knicks team as last year except with Amare and Felton replacing Lee and %!$$##$ Duhon + add in Randolph, Turiaf, and Azibuke, and with players like Gallo, Will, and Douglas having another year of experience under their belt, right? How in the world do ou think this team cant be a low playoff seed?? I mean last year this team would have gotten in the playoffs, but 2 playoff spots are now WIDE open cause the Raptors and Cavs both have NO shot, and the East really isnt that good to begin with. There is no reason to say that the Knicks are not better than Milwaukee or Charlotte right now, especially considering that we got Ray from Charlotte.
 
Originally Posted by tim teufel

if they dont get melo knicks will win 34 games this upcoming year. i dont see how this team is any better than last years
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you do realize that this is the same 30 win Knicks team as last year except with Amare and Felton replacing Lee and %!$$##$ Duhon + add in Randolph, Turiaf, and Azibuke, and with players like Gallo, Will, and Douglas having another year of experience under their belt, right? How in the world do ou think this team cant be a low playoff seed?? I mean last year this team would have gotten in the playoffs, but 2 playoff spots are now WIDE open cause the Raptors and Cavs both have NO shot, and the East really isnt that good to begin with. There is no reason to say that the Knicks are not better than Milwaukee or Charlotte right now, especially considering that we got Ray from Charlotte.
 
Originally Posted by tim teufel

if they dont get melo knicks will win 34 games this upcoming year. i dont see how this team is any better than last years

All i gotta say is Duhon was our starting PG, he wouldn't start on 98% of NBA teams and i'm serious...

We had Harrington that won us a couple games but his shot jackin and decision makin lost us way more..
 
Originally Posted by tim teufel

if they dont get melo knicks will win 34 games this upcoming year. i dont see how this team is any better than last years

All i gotta say is Duhon was our starting PG, he wouldn't start on 98% of NBA teams and i'm serious...

We had Harrington that won us a couple games but his shot jackin and decision makin lost us way more..
 
I'm calling 6th to 8th seed... Anything higher is an achievement, if we miss the playoffs then we fail
 
I'm calling 6th to 8th seed... Anything higher is an achievement, if we miss the playoffs then we fail
 
Originally Posted by RaY MuLLa

Id say were going to be the 7th seed
well lets look at it this way... last years playoffs were

1. Cleveland
2. Orlando
3. Atlanta
4. Boston
5. Miami
6. Milwaukee
7. Charlotte
8. Chicago

anyway Mimi and Chicago have obviously moved up at least 4 spots each, and Cleveland and Toronto (who was 1 game out) are both obviously out of the race.

I think Phily, Washington, and NJ have all gotten better this summer but not enough to get them from the gutter to the playoff picture. I can see a team like NJ being like where the Knicks were this past season, and Philly being like a 10 seed, Washington imo has the best chance out of those 3 to make the playoffs this season depending on how good Wall can be but imo its still highly unlikely... and i dont see Detroit or Indiana making the playoffs any time soon.

So that makes the playoff teams imo in no order

Orlando, Atlanta, Boston, Miami, Charlotte, Milwaukee, Chicago, and the Knicks. To say the Knicks (with Amare, Felton, AR, etc) cant be in that top 8 over teams like Washington or Phily who we were already better than last season is ridiculous. That is not overating us at all. imo if we are the 8th seed that is the worst we will possibly wind up (but i wouldnt mind it and than smack around Miami in the 1st round like its 1999
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now lets look at seeding imo the top 5 without a doubt is...

1. Miami
2. Orlando
3. Boston
4. Chicago
5. Atlanta

not so sure about the order but i cant see any other team getting into that top 5, so that leaves us, Milwaukee, and Charlotte as 6-8.

I like Charlotte and Milwaukee but i think our athletisism helps us alot vs them considering that both teams are very slow paced and dont like to run. The Knicks this season may be the most athletic team in the East and our coach LOVES to run. Also take into consideration that Charlotte lost their floor general to us this season, and that Amare Stoudamire is by far the best player on any of those 3 teams. Even if we dont get Melo, i see Gallo taking more strides in the right direction, AR having a breakout season as well as Felton who is finally in the up tempo set that he needs, along with guys like Chandler who is getting better and stronger and some other new comers and i dont see any reason to why the Knicks couldnt best Charlotte and Milwaukee this season to take the 6 spot considering that both of those teams only have gotten worse this summer while we have gotten much improved. If i had to predict the EC seeding this season my best guess would be...

1. Miami
2. Orlando
3. Chicago
4. Boston
5. Atlanta
6. New York
7. Milwaukee
8. Charlotte
9. Washington
10. Philadelphia
11. Indiana
12. New Jersey
13. Detroit
14. Toronto
15. Cleveland

feel free to disagee, and i dont want to jump the gun but thats my break down on the Eastern Conference seeding for this season... Knowing the Knicks luck though Amare will reinjure his knee + eye and well miss the playoffs again
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Originally Posted by RaY MuLLa

Id say were going to be the 7th seed
well lets look at it this way... last years playoffs were

1. Cleveland
2. Orlando
3. Atlanta
4. Boston
5. Miami
6. Milwaukee
7. Charlotte
8. Chicago

anyway Mimi and Chicago have obviously moved up at least 4 spots each, and Cleveland and Toronto (who was 1 game out) are both obviously out of the race.

I think Phily, Washington, and NJ have all gotten better this summer but not enough to get them from the gutter to the playoff picture. I can see a team like NJ being like where the Knicks were this past season, and Philly being like a 10 seed, Washington imo has the best chance out of those 3 to make the playoffs this season depending on how good Wall can be but imo its still highly unlikely... and i dont see Detroit or Indiana making the playoffs any time soon.

So that makes the playoff teams imo in no order

Orlando, Atlanta, Boston, Miami, Charlotte, Milwaukee, Chicago, and the Knicks. To say the Knicks (with Amare, Felton, AR, etc) cant be in that top 8 over teams like Washington or Phily who we were already better than last season is ridiculous. That is not overating us at all. imo if we are the 8th seed that is the worst we will possibly wind up (but i wouldnt mind it and than smack around Miami in the 1st round like its 1999
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now lets look at seeding imo the top 5 without a doubt is...

1. Miami
2. Orlando
3. Boston
4. Chicago
5. Atlanta

not so sure about the order but i cant see any other team getting into that top 5, so that leaves us, Milwaukee, and Charlotte as 6-8.

I like Charlotte and Milwaukee but i think our athletisism helps us alot vs them considering that both teams are very slow paced and dont like to run. The Knicks this season may be the most athletic team in the East and our coach LOVES to run. Also take into consideration that Charlotte lost their floor general to us this season, and that Amare Stoudamire is by far the best player on any of those 3 teams. Even if we dont get Melo, i see Gallo taking more strides in the right direction, AR having a breakout season as well as Felton who is finally in the up tempo set that he needs, along with guys like Chandler who is getting better and stronger and some other new comers and i dont see any reason to why the Knicks couldnt best Charlotte and Milwaukee this season to take the 6 spot considering that both of those teams only have gotten worse this summer while we have gotten much improved. If i had to predict the EC seeding this season my best guess would be...

1. Miami
2. Orlando
3. Chicago
4. Boston
5. Atlanta
6. New York
7. Milwaukee
8. Charlotte
9. Washington
10. Philadelphia
11. Indiana
12. New Jersey
13. Detroit
14. Toronto
15. Cleveland

feel free to disagee, and i dont want to jump the gun but thats my break down on the Eastern Conference seeding for this season... Knowing the Knicks luck though Amare will reinjure his knee + eye and well miss the playoffs again
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^ Word is Bogut's arm ain't healing too quick and he won't be ready for the start of the season.
plus this makes me happy

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^ Word is Bogut's arm ain't healing too quick and he won't be ready for the start of the season.
plus this makes me happy

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^^^ haha that was good

but yea i agree with your whole breakdown of how the eastern conference will play out, i like our team and im sure we can compete against any team and at least reach the 8th seed

and yea miami vs. knicks would be dope thou
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^^^ haha that was good

but yea i agree with your whole breakdown of how the eastern conference will play out, i like our team and im sure we can compete against any team and at least reach the 8th seed

and yea miami vs. knicks would be dope thou
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