OFFICIAL 2010-2011 NBA PLAYOFFS THREAD : VOL. MOST. ANTICIPATED. PLAYOFFS. EVER?

Originally Posted by JapanAir21

Originally Posted by YEEUPP

Originally Posted by AIRJORDAN JB23

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at the Mavs streak right now. They've been looking impressive.
...... Then they lose to the Lakers in the playoffs.
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They never lost to the Lakers in the Playoffs.

Just clarifying.

Teams they've lost to are the Heat, Suns, Spurs, Kings, Hornets, Warriors.

In recent history, I'm pretty sure that's the short list.


Carmelo Anthony would be nice, and he'd be a definite upgrade @ SF, but I don't know how he'd mesh with our team right now.

There would be an adjustment period, and I don't how keen he'd be on opening up to that and signing an extension.

Giving up Butler/Stevenson/picks would be ideal, since I don't know if Caron would re-sign with us.

If we did get Melo, it'd keep Tyson Chandler in town for sure. A team around Kidd, Melo, Dirk, and Chandler with our supporting cast being JET, Marion, Beaubois, and Haywood?

Yikes.
You realize that's a pipe dream right?

If Denver's FO is stupid enough to trade away Carmelo for a Butler/Stevenson/picks package they should all be institutionalized.

No chance he ends up in Dallas. None.
 
Commented it purely on the speculation that was brought up.

You won't see me getting my hopes up about Carmelo.
 
Commented it purely on the speculation that was brought up.

You won't see me getting my hopes up about Carmelo.
 
I can be perspective about the idea if it happened, sure.

Do I think it'll happen?

Not a chance.

If all they want is a salary dump, they have a lot of better places they can go.

Plus, same conference? Doubt it.
 
I can be perspective about the idea if it happened, sure.

Do I think it'll happen?

Not a chance.

If all they want is a salary dump, they have a lot of better places they can go.

Plus, same conference? Doubt it.
 
JA I got you.

Personally, IDK why anyone would be hyped about trading away most of their team's assets to acquire this guy. Definition of the modern day spoiled athlete. Clearly, he's mailing it in until Denver trades him away to New York. Not sure why anyone would entrust the rest of their career to the dunce known as James Dolan, but NYC is NYC I guess.

Still, all you're getting is an inefficient volume scorer, and an average rebounder. Not only that, but he's a black-hole on offense, once he gets the pass, chances are it's going up. Have never seen him play fundamentally sound D, and if he gave any effort at all on defense, I could overlook it, but he doesn't. People are going to say he'll change once he gets to NY, but that's just BS, he never has and never will. NY's frontline is already AWFUL defensively, but at least they have that Fields kid who actually tries. Once Melo arrives, there will be a straight layup line at MSG.
 
JA I got you.

Personally, IDK why anyone would be hyped about trading away most of their team's assets to acquire this guy. Definition of the modern day spoiled athlete. Clearly, he's mailing it in until Denver trades him away to New York. Not sure why anyone would entrust the rest of their career to the dunce known as James Dolan, but NYC is NYC I guess.

Still, all you're getting is an inefficient volume scorer, and an average rebounder. Not only that, but he's a black-hole on offense, once he gets the pass, chances are it's going up. Have never seen him play fundamentally sound D, and if he gave any effort at all on defense, I could overlook it, but he doesn't. People are going to say he'll change once he gets to NY, but that's just BS, he never has and never will. NY's frontline is already AWFUL defensively, but at least they have that Fields kid who actually tries. Once Melo arrives, there will be a straight layup line at MSG.
 
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[h1]Shout it out: Sterling heckles Davis[/h1]
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By Marc J. Spears, Yahoo! Sports 1 hour, 53 minutes ago


LOS ANGELES – It’s not uncommon to hear Los Angeles Clippers fans heckle Baron Davis(notes).Of late, however, the jeers directed at the team’s struggling pointguard are coming from a far more surprising source: The man payingDavis, Clippers owner Donald Sterling.

Sterling has expressed his displeasure about Davis’ play by tauntinghim from his courtside seat at Clippers’ home games, several sourcestold Yahoo! Sports. Among Sterling’s verbal barbs:

– “Why are you in the game?
 
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[h1]Shout it out: Sterling heckles Davis[/h1]
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By Marc J. Spears, Yahoo! Sports 1 hour, 53 minutes ago


LOS ANGELES – It’s not uncommon to hear Los Angeles Clippers fans heckle Baron Davis(notes).Of late, however, the jeers directed at the team’s struggling pointguard are coming from a far more surprising source: The man payingDavis, Clippers owner Donald Sterling.

Sterling has expressed his displeasure about Davis’ play by tauntinghim from his courtside seat at Clippers’ home games, several sourcestold Yahoo! Sports. Among Sterling’s verbal barbs:

– “Why are you in the game?
 
Originally Posted by CoolNClutch

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@ all the win streaks going on right now. Dallas, Miami, Boston, NY, Chicago, SA all in line 
Dallas plays both MIA and SAS this month.

It'll be interesting to see if Dallas can keep their streak going till the Miami game.

A lot of interesting story lines going on this year for the Mavericks

Dallas whoops Miami.
Dallas ends the streaks of San Antonio, New Orleans (previously undefeated), Boston, and New Orleans.


A lot of teams probably have our game circled.
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I can't wait to play the Lakers. I really can't.

I also can't wait for Beaubois.
 
Originally Posted by CoolNClutch

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@ all the win streaks going on right now. Dallas, Miami, Boston, NY, Chicago, SA all in line 
Dallas plays both MIA and SAS this month.

It'll be interesting to see if Dallas can keep their streak going till the Miami game.

A lot of interesting story lines going on this year for the Mavericks

Dallas whoops Miami.
Dallas ends the streaks of San Antonio, New Orleans (previously undefeated), Boston, and New Orleans.


A lot of teams probably have our game circled.
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I can't wait to play the Lakers. I really can't.

I also can't wait for Beaubois.
 
Originally Posted by CP1708

Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh

Originally Posted by CP1708

Osh Kosh Bosh wrote:
JapanAir21 wrote:
Bill Simmons writes an article how Derrick Rose isn't an elite player, and they go up against the defending NBA champions and he torches them.
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29/5/9.
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He took 25 shots only getting to the free throw line 4 times.

that validates everything he said, he's a very good point guard but still not elite till he can find a way to score more efficiently.

So Derrick Rose isn't an elite player because daddy says so? 
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You two need to start actually watching basketball.  No, for reals. 


Rose was too much last night.  I know he was totally "inefficient" what with his one shot below 50% for the game and all, but I'll go out on a limb and say that's pretty solid.  Getting 2 or 3 extra free throws is meaningless to the actual game but apparently means everything to his per values. 
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1. Don't start with me and that lame "watch basketball argument" It's tired and it's lame.

2. Did I say he was bad? No he was very very good, DERRICK ROSE IS A VERY GOOD BASKETBALL PLAYER. I just don't think he's quite there with CP3, D-Will, Rondo, Nash or Russy. Plus he's not a very good defender. He's very close but not quite there.

So stop with watch the game, I watched the game and guess what I still disagree with you so what ever.
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Again with the FG%, it's lame, it's a weak statistic that doesn't take all the other ways you can score.  Kevin Love shoots 44% from the feild, he still is ultimatley more efficient, he turns the ball over less, shoots more FTA, and makes more threes.




You didn't watch @#$%.  If you watched his games you wouldn't come up in this @#$%^&^%$#@$ spoutin off about he don't shoot enough free throws. 
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  You read that garbage off your stupid site that claims all their stuff is on point.  It's all subjective.  A guy gets a 5 footer in the paint by himself, or a guy takes a 5 footer by himself with 1 on the shot clock, or a guy takes a 5 footer with 3 men lunging for him, they're all vastly different 5 footers, all marked down as simply, 5 footers.  No shots, passes or rebounds are the same, regardless of the situation.  Just because people say that numbers are without bias, don't mean that there isn't a bias mixed in the numbers.  There's ZERO way to account for minutes they play, or injuries they deal with, any of that.  Pau plays great when he has a few days rest, like garbage when heplays in back to backs, or 3 games in 4 nights.  All the stats still count the same no matter how they get sliced up. 

Rose is right there on elite.  Better then CP3, or DWill, maybe not, but better then Rondo?  You God damn right he is.  Rondo can't hit a shot in a gym by himself from 8 feet, and you wanna talk about someone like him being better then D-Rose?  And I LIKE Rondo.  But his game is not as well rounded as Rose is.  PERIOD,  Nash and Westbrook are up there too, that's great, that just means there are a lot of PG's right now doin major work, and Rose can match ANY of them on a given night.  And oh by the way, look how much his shot is improving from just 6 months ago.  Can he shoot like Nash?  No, certainly not, but has he not shown greater range this season?  Bet your @#$ he has.  Oh wait, I bet you can make up a number somewhere that says that's not true right?  YOu can say something like he shoots 17% from 18 feet on the right side on Tuesday's, therefore, he's a lowsy shooter.  But Rondo is a 64% shooter from the same exact spot off one leg with the shot clock running out, something "more accurate" like that? 
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I don't care if Will, Paul, Rondo, Nash, and Russ get considered better then Rose, fine, no prob, but that doesn't make Rose "Not elite"  And at the very least, headed that exact direction with every passing day. 


You can make up all the BS stats you want, they're very pretty to look at, but they mean exactly squat when considering the circumstances that players deal with each and every single game they play.  You act like Rose not getting to the free throw line doesn't result from an outside source.  Like he doesn't ever get fouled, and maybe a ref misses it.  Or at the end of games when trying to ice a game, the ball goes to someone else and not Rose.  Nash gets TONS of free throws icing games, what the @#$% does that have to do with him being elite during a game in the first 47 and a half minutes? 
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It's @#$%^& stupid arguing this all the God damn time.  They have a measure, great, thas fine, but stop acting like those damn numbers determine a players place in the game.  He's a top tier young player in the game.  Top 10-15-20, I dunno, but I'm pretty sure there aren't 15-20 guys in the NBA that the Bulls would trade him for.  Now if you consider elite to only mean top 5 players, that's one thing, and that's a debate, but to say he isn't a very very very good PG like you imply with your free throw argument is just stupid.  Lame, tired, etc etc, blah blah. 
Ok CP, no point arguing with you since you know so much about what I think or watch.
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CP, got cameras in my house, watching me.
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IMO he's not the dudes I mentioned, no amount of CP telling me I didn't watch a game I watched will convince me.
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Originally Posted by CP1708

Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh

Originally Posted by CP1708

Osh Kosh Bosh wrote:
JapanAir21 wrote:
Bill Simmons writes an article how Derrick Rose isn't an elite player, and they go up against the defending NBA champions and he torches them.
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29/5/9.
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He took 25 shots only getting to the free throw line 4 times.

that validates everything he said, he's a very good point guard but still not elite till he can find a way to score more efficiently.

So Derrick Rose isn't an elite player because daddy says so? 
grin.gif
 

You two need to start actually watching basketball.  No, for reals. 


Rose was too much last night.  I know he was totally "inefficient" what with his one shot below 50% for the game and all, but I'll go out on a limb and say that's pretty solid.  Getting 2 or 3 extra free throws is meaningless to the actual game but apparently means everything to his per values. 
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1. Don't start with me and that lame "watch basketball argument" It's tired and it's lame.

2. Did I say he was bad? No he was very very good, DERRICK ROSE IS A VERY GOOD BASKETBALL PLAYER. I just don't think he's quite there with CP3, D-Will, Rondo, Nash or Russy. Plus he's not a very good defender. He's very close but not quite there.

So stop with watch the game, I watched the game and guess what I still disagree with you so what ever.
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Again with the FG%, it's lame, it's a weak statistic that doesn't take all the other ways you can score.  Kevin Love shoots 44% from the feild, he still is ultimatley more efficient, he turns the ball over less, shoots more FTA, and makes more threes.




You didn't watch @#$%.  If you watched his games you wouldn't come up in this @#$%^&^%$#@$ spoutin off about he don't shoot enough free throws. 
grin.gif
  You read that garbage off your stupid site that claims all their stuff is on point.  It's all subjective.  A guy gets a 5 footer in the paint by himself, or a guy takes a 5 footer by himself with 1 on the shot clock, or a guy takes a 5 footer with 3 men lunging for him, they're all vastly different 5 footers, all marked down as simply, 5 footers.  No shots, passes or rebounds are the same, regardless of the situation.  Just because people say that numbers are without bias, don't mean that there isn't a bias mixed in the numbers.  There's ZERO way to account for minutes they play, or injuries they deal with, any of that.  Pau plays great when he has a few days rest, like garbage when heplays in back to backs, or 3 games in 4 nights.  All the stats still count the same no matter how they get sliced up. 

Rose is right there on elite.  Better then CP3, or DWill, maybe not, but better then Rondo?  You God damn right he is.  Rondo can't hit a shot in a gym by himself from 8 feet, and you wanna talk about someone like him being better then D-Rose?  And I LIKE Rondo.  But his game is not as well rounded as Rose is.  PERIOD,  Nash and Westbrook are up there too, that's great, that just means there are a lot of PG's right now doin major work, and Rose can match ANY of them on a given night.  And oh by the way, look how much his shot is improving from just 6 months ago.  Can he shoot like Nash?  No, certainly not, but has he not shown greater range this season?  Bet your @#$ he has.  Oh wait, I bet you can make up a number somewhere that says that's not true right?  YOu can say something like he shoots 17% from 18 feet on the right side on Tuesday's, therefore, he's a lowsy shooter.  But Rondo is a 64% shooter from the same exact spot off one leg with the shot clock running out, something "more accurate" like that? 
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I don't care if Will, Paul, Rondo, Nash, and Russ get considered better then Rose, fine, no prob, but that doesn't make Rose "Not elite"  And at the very least, headed that exact direction with every passing day. 


You can make up all the BS stats you want, they're very pretty to look at, but they mean exactly squat when considering the circumstances that players deal with each and every single game they play.  You act like Rose not getting to the free throw line doesn't result from an outside source.  Like he doesn't ever get fouled, and maybe a ref misses it.  Or at the end of games when trying to ice a game, the ball goes to someone else and not Rose.  Nash gets TONS of free throws icing games, what the @#$% does that have to do with him being elite during a game in the first 47 and a half minutes? 
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It's @#$%^& stupid arguing this all the God damn time.  They have a measure, great, thas fine, but stop acting like those damn numbers determine a players place in the game.  He's a top tier young player in the game.  Top 10-15-20, I dunno, but I'm pretty sure there aren't 15-20 guys in the NBA that the Bulls would trade him for.  Now if you consider elite to only mean top 5 players, that's one thing, and that's a debate, but to say he isn't a very very very good PG like you imply with your free throw argument is just stupid.  Lame, tired, etc etc, blah blah. 
Ok CP, no point arguing with you since you know so much about what I think or watch.
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CP, got cameras in my house, watching me.
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IMO he's not the dudes I mentioned, no amount of CP telling me I didn't watch a game I watched will convince me.
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JapanAir21 wrote:
A lot of teams probably have our game circled.
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I can't wait to play the Lakers. I really can't.

I also can't wait for Beaubois.


The SPURS are not one of those teams.

I really don't care. Its about taking it one game at a time. Improving to get better on both offense and DEFENSE. 
  

Dude is all HYPE.
 
JapanAir21 wrote:
A lot of teams probably have our game circled.
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I can't wait to play the Lakers. I really can't.

I also can't wait for Beaubois.


The SPURS are not one of those teams.

I really don't care. Its about taking it one game at a time. Improving to get better on both offense and DEFENSE. 
  

Dude is all HYPE.
 
Well, if you watched the kid play, you wouldn't come in here tellin us about some web site and his lack of free throws. 

Every time you speak on somebody, you go off what your site says. 
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Well, if you watched the kid play, you wouldn't come in here tellin us about some web site and his lack of free throws. 

Every time you speak on somebody, you go off what your site says. 
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 at Sterling... Be more professional.

Wish Davis was still in GS... That was a fun team to watch, especially in the playoffs. Everyone wearing all yellow looked awsome at home games. Definitly a lot of energy...
 
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 at Sterling... Be more professional.

Wish Davis was still in GS... That was a fun team to watch, especially in the playoffs. Everyone wearing all yellow looked awsome at home games. Definitly a lot of energy...
 
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