Official 2009 NBA MVP Thread vol Congrats to LeBron
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Either Kobe/LeBron
or Dwight
or Dwight
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the thing people have to understand is although wade's season is great, kobe have done it, lebron have done it, hell, my boy tmac have done it whenthey're one man show and have gotten their team to the playoffs with little help and put up ridiculous stats.
unless you're straight up the most dominating player that year like jordan was in 87-88, you're not going to win MVP with a team that has a mediocrerecord.
kobe in 05-06: 35ppg, 5rpg, 5apg, 1.8spg -> ridiculous #s
lebron in 07-08: 30, 8, 7, 1.8spg, 1.1bpg -> ridiculous #s
tmac in 02-03: 32, 7, 6, 1.7spg, 1bpg -> ridiculous #s
those guys had years that are comparable if not better than what wade is doing this year and i believe none of those years they finished top 3 even in MVPvoting. they all got the hype like wade is this year, but they never had a chance as the season winds down.
its b/t lebron and kobe 1 and 2. u can't deny the 2 best players with the 2 best records in the L.
unless you're straight up the most dominating player that year like jordan was in 87-88, you're not going to win MVP with a team that has a mediocrerecord.
kobe in 05-06: 35ppg, 5rpg, 5apg, 1.8spg -> ridiculous #s
lebron in 07-08: 30, 8, 7, 1.8spg, 1.1bpg -> ridiculous #s
tmac in 02-03: 32, 7, 6, 1.7spg, 1bpg -> ridiculous #s
those guys had years that are comparable if not better than what wade is doing this year and i believe none of those years they finished top 3 even in MVPvoting. they all got the hype like wade is this year, but they never had a chance as the season winds down.
its b/t lebron and kobe 1 and 2. u can't deny the 2 best players with the 2 best records in the L.
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IMO in order for Kobe to overtake LeBron the Lakers are going to have to finish at least three games ahead of the Cavs.
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this is just like Phelps in the Olyms... it seems to go under the radar a little, but this can become one of the most memorable years for the Kobe/Lebronstory. Dudes are just trying to one up each other every time. We just need a Finals ending....
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I think it's either Lebron or Wade. Kobe is just being Kobe, which is unfair, because it's the same reason why he never won MVP prior to last year.
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Originally Posted by Goldmember
Kobe's 06 numbers aint touching this one..
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lol people forget Kobe dropped 81 Points, and had 9 consecutive 40point games. Didn't win the MVP.Originally Posted by purpleRElGN
Originally Posted by Goldmember
Kobe's 06 numbers aint touching this one..
Kobe's is this seasons MVP, trust me.
Unless
A. Lebron hits 82points
B. Cavs have a better record
C. The NBA season is canceled due to the recession
arrjae
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the race in order....
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LOL @ dwade over bron and KB
MVP'ing a team thats barley over .500
sorry, dwade your good but you aint even close to no MVP right now.
KB playing prime career basketball, Bron starting to scratch the surface of his potential, throwing stones at the throne.
MVP'ing a team thats barley over .500
sorry, dwade your good but you aint even close to no MVP right now.
KB playing prime career basketball, Bron starting to scratch the surface of his potential, throwing stones at the throne.
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Lakers finished 2nd overall best record in the NBA last year, Kobe won the MVP.
I mean it doesnt matter if the cavs finished 1st or 2nd overall ..we all know Lebron will get it this year.
I mean it doesnt matter if the cavs finished 1st or 2nd overall ..we all know Lebron will get it this year.
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As a Laker and Kobe Fan, I think D-Wade should get it. All this talk about Bron not having any support is ridiculous, Mo Williams (Whether you want to admit itor not is an All-Star), West is more than average point guard, Big Ben was defensive player of the year and does his job, and Big Z has been an All-Star. Thenyou have a bench that has Wally, Anderson, and Gibson, all pretty good players. D-Wade is putting up "Bron" numbers while getting his"lesser" team to a decent spot in the playoffs. I'm sure this is been stated before, but this is called the Most Valuable Player award, we haveseen what the Heat are without Wade, he deserves it.
With that said, Kobe 4 MVP!
With that said, Kobe 4 MVP!
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a bunch of has beens and injured players arent much help.... Kobe has young talent that are more athletic and talented than LBJs supporting cast.Not to down what KBs doing, but youre a fool if you think LBJs cast > KBs.
Wade does deserve it, but he doesnt have enough wins. I hate to say it, but honestly, Wade is hypothetically out of the question with less than 20 games to go.
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Why do people keep bringing up an award Kobe should have won a few years ago?
Because they messed it up then, they should again?
Because they messed it up then, they should again?
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this guy....having the NBA change a rule for you is a plus....
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LOL@ ppl saying wade is having a better year than anyone.
stop it. he's just scoring 1 more pt than LBJ.
LBJ is doing so much more than Wade.
LBJ has same supporting cast as Wade's
while Kobe has 3 all-stars and best coach word to Kenny smith.
the list should be like
1. LBJ
2. WADE
3. KB
THE END.
stop it. he's just scoring 1 more pt than LBJ.
LBJ is doing so much more than Wade.
LBJ has same supporting cast as Wade's
while Kobe has 3 all-stars and best coach word to Kenny smith.
the list should be like
1. LBJ
2. WADE
3. KB
THE END.
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he's not doing bad. he's just not doing mvp-good.
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You try too hard. "Was"?? Okay, let's go with "was". Jamaal Magloire was an all-star like Ilgauskas was an all-star. And unlike Ben Wallace and Ilgauskas, Shawn Marion and Jermaine O'Neal were considered top 10 players in the league at one point. Certainly ranked higher than Ben Wallace.
Like I said, Wade has the numbers, Kobe has the record. LeBron has both. You can use either the stats/wins argument against Wade and Kobe, what argument are you going to use against Bron? Since you couldn't argue against his stats or his team's record, in hateful desperation you tried to take the "Cavs are still a good team without him" route as an argument against the FACT that LeBron is the MVP this year. Well, guess what? That argument doesn't hold water. The Cavs are +14.7 points with Bron on the court and -10.5 with him on the bench... An even bigger on/off differential than Wade with the Heat. So Bron has the stats, team's record and the fact that his team is considerably better with him than without him working for him. You have no case whatsoever. Give it up.
Hateful desperation? Naw buddy, don't let your hatred for Kobe belittle your argument. Lebron is going to win the MVP this year I mean Lebron is going tohave a %!%*%@ rule changed because of him of course he's going to win! I said D-Wade DESERVES IT and I still believe that. Dwayne wade scores a full pointbetter than Lebron and averages more Assists, and has lead his dismal team to a position for home court in the first round of the playoffs. Sure Wadedoesn't have the "record" but he has everything else, you guys making it sound like he's 400 games under .500, his team is in position forhome court! Lebron does have the record, sure but he plays in the East, while Kobe plays in the West. You can say "Well the Cavs have a 21-4 recordagainst the West" Yep, they do (2 of those loses against the Lakers, but I digress). Imagine if the Cavs were in the West, I can guarantee theywouldn't have the same record as the Lakers, even our cupcake teams (Warriors, Clippers) have played the Cavs tough. Don't fool yourself about therecord buddy. Once again though with all that said, Lebron will win the MVP and will win many more. However, D-WADE deserves it and is playing like a true MVP,scoring, passing, game winning shots, the whole thing. He'll just have to hang his hat on having his Finals MVP. P.S. We need Ralph Nader to mail the NBAabout this "Crab Dribble" being allowed
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My list would be:
1. Wade
2. LeBron
3. Kobe
4. CP3
5. Dwight
6. B. Roy (I'm a fan of his, what can I say?).
I will have no problem if either LeBron or Kobe wins it, but I think Wade deserves it. Alot of this has already been said, but the fact is that most peoplehad the Heat as being a lottery team again this year. So, to me, that they have a chance of being a 4 seed (even in the East) is really impressive. WithoutWade, I think the Heat would be chasing the 1st pick in the draft again. Still, since the NBA MVP pretty much means the best player on the team with the bestrecord (or close to it), LeBron is going to win it.
1. Wade
2. LeBron
3. Kobe
4. CP3
5. Dwight
6. B. Roy (I'm a fan of his, what can I say?).
I will have no problem if either LeBron or Kobe wins it, but I think Wade deserves it. Alot of this has already been said, but the fact is that most peoplehad the Heat as being a lottery team again this year. So, to me, that they have a chance of being a 4 seed (even in the East) is really impressive. WithoutWade, I think the Heat would be chasing the 1st pick in the draft again. Still, since the NBA MVP pretty much means the best player on the team with the bestrecord (or close to it), LeBron is going to win it.
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