Offical 2009-10 NBA Season Thread

[CP1708]

Mike

 

[al3xis]

yeahhh, there's been some head scratchers lately from the NT Donnie Walsh's.

 

[big j 33]

To be fair... most of the ******ed trade ideas come from BangDak

 

[CP1708]

Oh @#$%

Lotta heart outta Portland tonight. I mean damn. I realize SA coulda let down, but at some point the talent gap should take over, especially when Portland ishangin tough the whole way.

If Roy is out for any length of time, this state liable to get up and walk out the country.

 

[bangdak]

Mike, you love taking a dump on knicks fan, yet your team lost not once, but i believe twice already this season to us.


talkin bout how the bulls cant lose to these bummy %+!@*@#,

and for the record, my trades will eventually happen.

 

[bruce waynee]

Bayless started and dropped 31 and 7 on San Antonio

 

[roscoe p wallace]

So random question, just wanna get a sense of peoples feelings, I assume everyone who has hated the Pistons still does and is glad to see them struggle? Showof hands?

 

[brandonroy3]

Originally Posted by Bruce Waynee

Bayless started and dropped 31 and 7 on San Antonio

about god damn time he got some decent burn.

earl smiff with 10 3 bombs

 

[chester the cheetah]

Originally Posted by CP1708

If Roy is out for any length of time, this state liable to get up and walk out the country.

?

 

[proshares]

Originally Posted by Bigmike23

A select few of Knicks fans this week said they'd prefer Wade because of it.

we all know the knick fan base is a bunch of dumb %#+!$+$ idiots tho

just look at those trade offers they come up with

COUGH

%%$!$.


http:// [h3]Cap won't drop so much?[/h3]
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[h5]2010-11 NBA Salary Cap[/h5]
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ESPN.com's Chris Sheridan spoke to a few teams about the salary cap number for next season and wrote the following:

"The Miami Heat are the most conservative in their estimates, basing their planning for next summer's cap at $52 million. The New York Knicks are using $53 million as their operating number, and the New Jersey Nets are being the most optimistic, expecting the cap to come in between $54 and $55 million. The league office told teams at the Board of Governors meeting on the eve of the season opener to expect the cap to come in somewhere around the $52 million range, but agents who have been briefed on updated financial receipt figures now are using $54 million as their operating number."

http:// [h3]Lee playing his way out of New York?[/h3]
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[h5]David Lee | Knicks[/h5]
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The Knicks want to keep David Lee and sign a top-flight free agent next summer, but they may not be able to do that. Lee is playing so well it's a possibility the Knicks won't have enough money under the cap to keep him.

Lee wants to stay with the Knicks if the money from them and another team is close.

"All I can do is keep coming out, competing and showing if they decide to move forward and a sign a guy like me, they're going to get the best effort every time I get out here," Lee told the New York Post. "That's all I'm trying to do. So no matter where I end up, you know I'm going to come out and compete and get better and better each year."

http:// [h3]Chandler out at least a week[/h3]
10:14AM ET

[h5]Tyson Chandler | Bobcats[/h5]
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The Charlotte Observer reports:

"The Charlotte Bobcats have lost center Tyson Chandler for at least a week to a stress reaction in his left foot. A magnetic resonance imaging revealed the injury Wednesday, after Chandler left Tuesday's victory against the Detroit Pistons in the second half. The injury is in the fourth metatarsal, the bone supporting the toe second from the outside of Chandler's foot."

http:// [h3]C's will stand pat[/h3]
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[h5]Boston Celtics[/h5]
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Paul Pierce may be out two weeks, but the Celtics won't make a roster move. Owner Wyc Grousbeck says the Celtics aren't going to release a player to sign another one because they already have 15 players on the roster.

"We've got a roster of 15 players. We're not going to be cutting anybody," Grousbeck told The Boston Globe. "We don't have any open roster spots. We've got guys to practice. I'm glad to see Tony Allen's playing very well and we'll have to have people like Tony to step it up."

http:// [h3]T's reduced, but Sheed still not happy[/h3]
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[h5]Rasheed Wallace | Celtics[/h5]
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Rasheed Wallace had his technical fouls reduced to nine after he successfully appealed one from a game at Miami last month.

"No, I'm not happy," Wallace told The Boston Globe. "Because there are still some more that, hopefully, they can look at. That was the only one we were talking about and that one got rescinded that fast because of the referee [Bennett Salvatore]. As for the outcome of the others, I know it won't be no time soon because of the simple fact it's on the backburner because of the [collective bargaining agreement] meetings and all that stuff. So I'm not worried about it, yet."

http:// [h3]Magic in T-Mac's future?[/h3]
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[h5]Tracy McGrady | Rockets[/h5]
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=532Tracy McGrady will be a free agent next July. His preference is to re-sign with Houston, but he has not ruled out a return to Orlando. His main goal is to play for a winning team.

"If I was to come back, I was going to rent out (cousin http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=136Vince Carter's) guest house," McGrady told the Houston Chronicle. "It is good to see him home, to keep the family in a Magic uniform. A lot of great memories here. The four years I played here were unbelievable years, some great games, great nights, a lot of memories I'll never forget."

"I'm excited about becoming a free agent, very excited about that," McGrady said. "It's a time in my career it's all about winning. Stats and all that stuff don't really matter to me. I'm all about trying to get a chance to win a championship. My first option is definitely Houston over any team. Houston is where I want to be. My wife and kids love it there. It's home for us. But you can't ever rule out coming back."

http:// [h3]Why Kobe is better than LeBron[/h3]
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[h5]Kobe Bryant | Lakers[/h5]
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Yesterday David Thorpe of Scouts Inc. wrote why LeBron James today is better than Kobe Bryant.

Vincent Goodwill of The Detroit News disagrees with Thorpe and wrote the following today:

"Don't believe the hype or numbers. Kobe Bryant is the best player in basketball and no one, not even LeBron James, comes close. ... One Eastern Conference scout said there's no comparison between Bryant and James, noting the difference in how they perform in the clutch. Bryant has numerous game-winners, while James has a handful. 'Kobe is a killer, and to be that, you must be selfish,' the scout said. 'Kobe has a level of arrogance that he doesn't give a (darn) what anyone thinks. LeBron has always had to share, ever since his childhood. It's not in him to be selfish. Whatever that 'it' is, Kobe has it and LeBron doesn't yet. (James) can get to a point where he's dangerous, but to Kobe's level? I don't think so.' "

http:// [h3]Good news for Griffin[/h3]
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[h5]Blake Griffin | Clippers[/h5]
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The Los Angeles Times reports Blake Griffin received medical clearance Wednesday, which will allow him to run on an anti-gravity treadmill.

If all goes according to plan, Griffin will be cleared to resume basketball-related activities in three weeks.

http:// [h3]Kobe next?[/h3]
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[h5]Kobe Bryant | Lakers[/h5]
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Now that Pau Gasol has inked his extension with the Lakers, is Kobe Bryant far behind.

"We continue to have dialogue with Kobe and his representative," Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak told the Los Angeles Times. "I do anticipate continued discussions."

http:// [h3]Love wanted Curry[/h3]
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[h5]Stephen Curry | Warriors[/h5]
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The Timberwolves passed on Stephen Curry twice in the 2009 NBA draft. Kevin Love, according to the San Francisco Chronicle, went on the Dan Patrick radio show Wednesday and said he wishes they had drafted Curry.

"I will tell you why that (would have been) a good pick, too," Love said. "We are toward the last spot in three-point percentage in the league, and he would have just been great in the triangle.
"He would have been dynamite coming off screens and shooting that three ball. I love his game."

http:// [h3]Blazers seek another exemption[/h3]
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[h5]Portland Trail Blazers[/h5]
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The injury ravaged Blazers were granted the ability to sign a 16th player when http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=3225Greg Oden was lost for the season. They will ask the league again for that exemption now that Joel Przybilla is in all probability done for the year, too.

Tom Penn, vice president of basketball operations, told The Oregonian the team must wait until Przybilla has missed three games to ask for the exemption.

Pryzbilla will undergo a full examination today to determine the extent of the injuries to the knee and a timetable for his return.

http:// [h3]Brand's frustration growing[/h3]
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[h5]Elton Brand | 76ers[/h5]
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Elton Brand is not happy these days for several reasaons. First, he's not starting. Second, the team continues to have slow starts to begin games. Third, he believs some of teamamtes, Marreese Speights for one, are playing even though they make a lot of mistakes.

"It's happening every night," Brand told The Intelligencer. "We have to fight and claw back to get a lead. It's tough playing like that."

"Certain guys got a longer leash than others, so they played longer and the mistakes were shown," he said. "No one should be on a long leash if you don't box out, don't rebound or play 'D'. You shouldn't be out there."

Brand also said, "when Speights gets the ball you know he isn't going to pass. He doesn't pass."

http:// [h3]Brutal setback for Marks[/h3]
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[h5]Sean Marks | Hornets[/h5]
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Sean Marks has been out with a sore right shoulder. He was hoping to come back in the next few days, but that won't happen after he strained the plantaris muscle in his leg. He will be sidelined for an indefinite period.

"This is not one of the best days that I've had," Marks told The Times-Picayune. "It's a strange little muscle, which is great, but Mark (Cranston, Hornets' director of athletic performance and rehabilitation) said, 'What do you want, the good news or the bad news?

"'The good news is it's an insignificant muscle, not your gastroc (gastrocnemius) or one of your main muscles in your calf, the bad news is you're going to be out.' I'm going to see the doc, but it's real painful walking around on it right now. It's just really frustrating. Brutal. I was feeling great, itching to get back on the court. Having practiced the last few days with the guys, now this setback is brutal. You feel you're letting them down, everybody down. These last two years have been pretty tough."

http:// [h3]Why Del Negro's job is safe this season[/h3]
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[h5]Vinny Del Negro | Bulls[/h5]
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There is a lot of speculation about Vinny Del Negro's immediate future with the Bulls. Mike McGraw of the Daily Herald thinks Del Negro won't be around next summer and explains why he may not be fired.

McGraw writes: "No matter what happens the rest of the way, there is very little chance Del Negro is still the head coach next summer when the Bulls launch a free-agent quest for Dwyane Wade, Joe Johnson, LeBron James and whomever else. This was the case even before the season started. The most important factor facing the Bulls right now isn't whether they can rebound to snag the seventh or eighth playoff seed. It's whether they can land one of those stellar free agents in 2010. So it's possible management is thinking, 'Why change coaches now if we're likely to do it again at the end of the season?' "

http:// [h3]Benching shocked Salmons[/h3]
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[h5]John Salmons | Bulls[/h5]
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Bulls coach Vinny Del Negro was not happy how the Bulls were playing against the Knicks Tuesday, so he benched John Salmons and Brad Miller at the start of the second half. Salmons was shocked by Del Negro's decision.

"The first thing I had to do was put my pride to the side," Salmons told the Chicago Sun-Times. "Now I just have to try to continue to focus on trying to help the team. It was a shock without a warning."

Now Salmons doesn't know if he'll start or become a backup.

"Nothing was told to me, so I don't know if it's permanent," Salmons told the Chicago Tribune.

"It was said (Tuesday) that I'm pretty much the reason we're losing. I have to stay with it and hopefully help the team win. I haven't been playing up to my potential. It's something you got to deal with. We're losing, I haven't been playing well, I just got taken out of the starting lineup. So put two and two together."

http:// [h3]Pistons getting healthy[/h3]
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[h5]Detroit Pistons[/h5]
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From MLive.com:

"According to FSN Detroit sideline reporter Eli Zaret, the Pistons are about to get an injection of talent returning from injury. During a segment before the opening tip of the http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=detDetroit Pistons / http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=torToronto Raptors game on Wednesday evening Zaret said, 'The next time out, Sunday in Toronto, Ben Gordon and Richard Hamilton will be back and very likely, Tayshaun Prince will be too.' The return of the three players would mark the first time this season that the Pistons would have a full roster."

http:// [h3]Can a Love-Jefferson tandem work?[/h3]
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[h5]Minnesota Timberwolves[/h5]
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Kevin Love and Al Jefferson are the starting PF and C combination. Both are natural PF's. Some think they can't play together and won't make the Wolves successful because the frontcourt is too small, but their head coach thinks it will work out.

"They'll get better together as time goes by," Wolves coach Kurt Rambis told the Star Tribune, "but when you compete against some of the elite teams, basically they're both power forwards. And you could argue they're on the small side of power forwards. They don't have the height or the length or athleticism that a lot of power forwards have in this league."

Rambis says the Wolves have to pass the ball and execute their offense.

"That's when we're at our best and lack of size doesn't seem to hurt us," he said. "It shows, and becomes glaring, when longer teams can reach right over the top of us to secure defensive rebounds. They don't even really have to jump. They just can get their hands on the ball. That's something our team will have to learn, how to block out."

http:// [h3]Nowitzki a MVP candidate?[/h3]
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[h5]Dirk Nowitzki | Mavericks[/h5]
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Dirk Nowitzki, as usual, is carrying the Mavs. He has kept the team in the playoff hunt, despite injuries to some of the key players. Shawn Marion thinks Nowitzki should be a MVP candidate.

"He's having a hell of a year," Marion told The Dallas Moring News. "When you're talking MVP, what do you determine it from? Wins? Right. Points? Yeah. So I guess he's got to be there.

"He's quietly doing what he does to take care of business. And there's nothing wrong with that."

http:// [h3]T-Mac wants more time[/h3]
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[h5]Tracy McGrady | Rockets[/h5]
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Tracy McGrady's knee is feeling fine he says. He is limited to 8 minutes a game, but he wants to increase that.

"I just try to play my role, my little cameos I make," McGrady told the Houston Chronicle. "Obviously they are looking out for my best interests, trying to monitor my minutes. At the same time, I feel it's time to really increase them. I think that's what's going to happen in the next few games.

"I feel right now, it's time to really increase the minutes. I think that's what's going to happen over the next couple games. I do know my body. I feel fine. It's time to start increasing. I was cool with the plan they had me on, but I think it's time to start increasing."

 

[jamergrady]

Houston increase T-Mac minutes now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[chester the cheetah]

'Kobe has a level of arrogance that he doesn't give a (darn) what anyone thinks. LeBron has always had to share, ever since his childhood. It's not in him to be selfish."

What in the hell is this nonsense?

I swear to God, the internet is both the best and worst thing to ever happen to sports. Dudes just say %*!* to be saying %*!*.

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

Did Lebron put the shackles on Tyreke in the 4th qr. and overtime?

 

[gregory house]

More like Tyreke was forcing everything.

 

[outacontrol music]

Yup. 1-8 shooting down the stretch and the Kings got shutout in OT.

 

[big j 33]

Originally Posted by Roscoe P Wallace

So random question, just wanna get a sense of peoples feelings, I assume everyone who has hated the Pistons still does and is glad to see them struggle? Show of hands?

I actually didn't mind Detroit when they were doing well, I hate Rip Hamilton and Tayshaun, though. Always liked Chauncey, Rasheed, BigBen...

 

[JD617]

Don't believe the hype or numbers. Kobe Bryant is the best player in basketball and no one, not even LeBron James, comes close.
Really? It's not close, huh?

I don't even like Lebron, but that's ridiculous.

 

[CP1708]

Originally Posted by Chester the Cheetah

Originally Posted by CP1708

If Roy is out for any length of time, this state liable to get up and walk out the country.

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I was jokin on the what happens next type angle. Fans over here gettin frustrated with all the injuries and if Roy gets added to that list, people will startgoin off bridges around here.

 

[CP1708]

After hybernating all summer, suddenly certain Cavs fans are back runnin their mouths again, must not have learned their lesson from last year.

And iff they win tomorrow, they gonna celebrate like they won somethin, but then, April will come along, and then they won't shake no hands walkin offthe court. And we'll all be lookin for em in here, only they'll be gone again......

Like Deja vu in this mot..............

 

[bigmike23]

im not sure who is more funny when they put cav fans in ther place, CP,other laker fans,Chester or the Knick fan base.

 

[al3xis]

on that note, wonder why cavs fans haven't give us another salary cap update now?

Dec 24, 2009 2:46 PM EST

Projections of the NBA's salary cap dropping significantly for the 2010-11 season may be overly pessimistic.

While everyone still expects the cap to be reduced for next season, ESPN's Chris Sheridan writes that the reduction may not be as vast as once believed.

"The league office told teams at the Board of Governors meeting on the eve of the season opener to expect the cap to come in somewhere around the $52 million range, but agents who have been briefed on updated financial receipt figures now are using $54 million as their operating number," Sheridan wrote.

The salary cap dropped from $58.68 million in 2008-09 to $57.7 million for the current season.

 

[bigmike23]

yall still stuck at one max player if curry and the other bum are still on the team tho right?

 

[i nasmatic i]

Don't feel like making a new thread, but here's the second return of All Star Game Voting.

EASTERN CONFERENCE

Forwards: LeBron James (Clev) 1,315,292; Kevin Garnett (Bos) 1,113,213; Chris Bosh (Tor) 553,230; Paul Pierce (Bos) 263,189; Josh Smith (Atl) 236,527; Andre Iguodala (Phi) 167,799; Danny Granger (Ind) 165,543; Michael Beasley (Mia) 132,794; Hedo Turkoglu (Tor) 95,329; Rashard Lewis (Orl) 95,328; Caron Butler (Was) 83,317.

Guards: Dwyane Wade (Mia) 1,314,215; *Allen Iverson (Phi) 635,084; Vince Carter (Orl) 554,779; Ray Allen (Bos) 385,744; Gilbert Arenas (Was) 355,544; Derrick Rose (Chi) 305,029; Joe Johnson (Atl) 227,896; Rajon Rondo (Bos) 203,252; Jose Calderon (Tor) 115,071; Mike Bibby (Atl) 106,830.

Centers: Dwight Howard (Orl) 1,252,786; Shaquille O'Neal (Cle) 455,239; Andrea Bargnani (Tor) 121,253; Al Horford (Atl) 118,802; Brook Lopez (NJ) 105,157; Andrew Bogut (Mil) 87,876; Jermaine O'Neal (Mia) 81,262; Rasheed Wallace (Bos) 66,307; Kendrick Perkins (Bos) 40,057; Samuel Dalembert (Phi) 35,714; Tyson Chandler (Cha) 31,470; Brad Miller (Chi) 29,369.

WESTERN CONFERENCE

Forwards: Carmelo Anthony (Den) 1,204,234; Dirk Nowitzki (Dal) 668,243; Pau Gasol (LAL) 565,414; Tim Duncan (SA) 564,728; Kevin Durant (OKC) 406,581; Trevor Ariza (Hou) 355,529; Luis Scola (Hou) 295,691; Shawn Marion (Dal) 268,853; Ron Artest (LAL) 197,689; Lamar Odom (LAL) 152,684; LaMarcus Aldridge (Por) 129,909.

Guards: Kobe Bryant (LAL) 1,380,383; Steve Nash (Pho) 546,064; Tracy McGrady (Hou) 541,190; Chris Paul (NO) 521,468; Jason Kidd (Dal) 372,225; Aaron Brooks (Hou) 298,892; Chauncey Billups (Den) 241,737; Deron Williams (Utah) 208,991; Jason Terry (Dal) 195,456; Brandon Roy (Por) 189,137; Manu Ginobili (SA) 171,624.
Centers: Amar'e Stoudemire (Pho) 950,737; Andrew Bynum (LAL) 588,471; Nene (Den) 199,667; Marc Gasol (Mem) 160,686; Greg Oden (Por) 108,147; Al Jefferson (Min) 98,669; Antonio McDyess (SA) 94,479; Marcus Camby (LAC) 86,719; Andris Biedrins (GS) 77,287; Mehmet Okur (Utah) 69,612; Emeka Okafor (NO) 61,823;
Iverson

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[al3xis]

If it's 54 million, moving Jared Jeffries would put the knicks extremely close to being able to give a 2nd max deal.

 

[N41D]

Originally Posted by CP1708

After hybernating all summer, suddenly certain Cavs fans are back runnin their mouths again, must not have learned their lesson from last year.

Must be all the Power Moves they made in the offseason...