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Im going to put it like this. The best men elected president, never got to serve the full extent of their terms/ terms. And the presidents withthe most progressed ideas were not allowed to accomplish their goals.Originally Posted by chris boshs neck
Bush was terrible, no denying that. He crippled the United States, set the country back many years. Hoover was terrible to. Dude who Said FDR was worst needs to smack himself. Reegan was crap, War on Drugs, Almost started another Cold War, among other things.
There were two shots. IIRC the first shot hit him in the throat then the second shot was a mercury bullet that hit him in the head. You only seethe second shot in that gif.Originally Posted by Cronicmolemolereturns
in the gif before he is shot..is he sleeping in the car? his head is down.
ditto... Especially the bolded.. You libertarians make me laugh sometimes.. Yeah because what we need as a country is the ability for states tocome and go as they please.. And you guys are supposed to love America?Originally Posted by IncredibleEv
wowOriginally Posted by Swish 22
Lincoln is by far the worst president in our history. The right to secession is the most important right we have as individuals. We are granted our freedom by America's laws, but the act of secession is the practice of that freedom that is no longer available to us thanks to Lincoln. Great emancipator? Hardly. Pure economic decision. Andrew Johnson as a VP? That's the great political genius at work (sarcasm). Too many myths about this clown to continue, but he is the worst thing to ever happen to this country.
Originally Posted by CaliKix88
The greatest:
This guy was a straight up G. His life story could be action blockbuster and he's the only president to ever take us out of a deficit.
Originally Posted by 13saldana13
I don't know all the theories, but the one i've believed the most is the one that his wifed killed him. I need to read more on it, so far I started with the JFK biography.
If you give one iota of credit to Clinton for the economy in the mid to late '90s, then you're an idiot. The tech and dotcom industrybecame profitable on his watch and he reaped the benefits. At the same time, he ignored national security, weakened (oh, excuse me, "streamlined")the military, and his complete ignorance led to serious lapses in national security that rose up very early in the Bush presidency. The consequences of whichwere unavoidable by whoever was in office in 2001. Then the country fell into recession thanks to the dotcom bust and was compounded by the economic toll ofterrorist attacks. Clinton benefited from entering office just after a major recession, and running into one of the biggest booms in history, and managing toget out of office just as it came crashing down.Originally Posted by Laced Up Jordans
During Clintons era, the US was prospering on a crazy scale and was in a economic boom
I believe you are mistaken by national security aspect. Bush was told when he came in and numerous times up until 9/11 Bin Ladin was planning toattack. He ignored it. If you want to raise the fact Clinton could have killed Bin Ladin at one point in his term, ok.. But I will raise the fact Bush couldhave had Bin Ladin captured after 9/11 while we were at war with specifically him and Al-Qaeda.. But 9/11 is no where near Clinton's fault. We skip betweenthe 80s and 01 for blame of Bin Ladin, the man who trained him whether it was for good or not he had him trained, and the man who brushed off the warnings hegot about Bin Ladin..Originally Posted by dmbrhs
If you give one iota of credit to Clinton for the economy in the mid to late '90s, then you're an idiot. The tech and dotcom industry became profitable on his watch and he reaped the benefits. At the same time, he ignored national security, weakened (oh, excuse me, "streamlined") the military, and his complete ignorance led to serious lapses in national security that rose up very early in the Bush presidency. The consequences of which were unavoidable by whoever was in office in 2001. Then the country fell into recession thanks to the dotcom bust and was compounded by the economic toll of terrorist attacks. Clinton benefited from entering office just after a major recession, and running into one of the biggest booms in history, and managing to get out of office just as it came crashing down.Originally Posted by Laced Up Jordans
During Clintons era, the US was prospering on a crazy scale and was in a economic boom
You know what, I'm not paid to be a history teacher so I will just refer you to watch these. Learn something. Pay attention. PBS is far from"Right-Wing" propaganda. Actually, everyone should watch these videos.� All of them wont post, so here is the first part.Originally Posted by AKA King Arthur
Originally Posted by ShaunHillFTW49
Originally Posted by Los Yankees
Originally Posted by ShaunHillFTW49
LBJ>You. Peace Corps , oh nice but Johnson's great society FTW
Extending the dependence of Blacks on the government is not something to be proud of.
Best 20th Century: Reagan
Worst 20th Century: Wilson, FDR, Hoover, Nixon and Carter were all equally terrible.
Best 19th Century: Jefferson
Worst 19th Centrury: Not really sure.
Yes, only blacks use government programs.
its beyond clear los has no idea what he is talking about
its one thing to think Regan is the best president...fine
but to say LBJ's war on poverty was bad and its bad because it made "black dependent"
how are you going to say one program made an entire race of people dependant on the government? that's idiotic
furthermore there were way more safety net programs administered during FDR's terms during the great depression......do you believe that that made "whites" dependant on the government too?
that was a stupid thing to say and it falls in line with you thinking Regan is the best president of the 20th century Clinton accomplished 10 times more domestically than Regan could of ever thought of doing. And lets not forget his track record when it comes to foreign policy is lying to the American people. But whatever you have a right to enjoy him (although i take it you are either incredibly stupid or incredibly rich, maybe both)
as to answer the question there was a list done at the end of 2008 that comes out ever 4 years with the presidential cycle that does a very good job of ranking presidents by C-Span ( http://www.c-span.org/PresidentialSurvey/Overall-Ranking.aspx)
anyway as for best ill go with George Washington just because at that time he was able to maintain and set a standard for America that all presidents follow to this day. with out him it can easily be said that America would not be what it is today
as for worst it has to be William Henry Harrison. He served for 3 months or something...i guess its not his fault though cause he died but still
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i didn't even see Los put FDR as one of the worst presidents ever
if you love Regan you have no choice to like FDR because without him there would be no America for him to $+$$ up. Not to mention that FDR single handily saved capitalism, got us out of the great depression, and was instrumental in winning WWII. Really what did he not do right? Any scholar you talk to ranks FDR as one of the best presidents ever. Sure some of his new deal programs were out there and he wanted to make the Supreme Court 15 but a lot of his really really progressive stuff never saw the light of day.
every single person making money in the American free market owes FDR of allowing corporate capitalism to stay as our nations system.
my god son.
and you had the audacity to complement that other guy on his history when what he was saying wasent practical at all yet you seem to have no grasp on realityY
Originally Posted by SUCKAFREE85
Originally Posted by quik1987
Ive never seen this... hella years late I know.
Got his head busted open. good !#! aim