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wrong. both players lifted up their jerseys to reveal shirts with a personal message supporting someone. one was fined, one was not. you can say the circumstances are different but either it's all OK or none of it is. just to clarify...i don't support mike vick. i just don't agree with the NFL's rule here.Originally Posted by jerseymizzle
And a Taylor comparison is apples to oranges. Clearly not even close to the same situation
Originally Posted by Jetpacunlimited
Not only are you trying hard... I bet you listen to rap and support some of the artist by purchasing the album... Some of those guys are felons. And I bet you download music... illegally... You support that now don't you?Originally Posted by Chester McFloppy
Originally Posted by goldNboi7
How in the hell are they gettin fined for supportin his friend and teammate thru a tough time in his life? What are they supposed 2 do, just FORGET that they knew this dude 4 years and years? They should be praised 4 their solidarity and loyalty.
The NFL can fine my@$!$ too, cuz I damn sure got a Free Mike Vick shirt 2.
Supporting a felon is the new thing in society?
Cool, someone hook me up with a Free Enron CEO's and Free Charles Manson shirts.
Originally Posted by lowslows
The NFL and its fines are a joke....
Originally Posted by nnarum
@ this whole topic.
I think it's wrong for the wording on the T-Shirt. "Free Mike Vick". I think Vick made his own hole and has to dig out of it himself. Maybe like DMX said another type of shirt would've been more appropriate, like "We support Vick" or "We Miss You #7". Any shirt with "Free" involving a convicted felon isn't appropriate and shouldn't be allowed.
3. They could have supported Vick by sending a different message.
And still got fined. I don't understand why people are arguing over one word, here.
Originally Posted by Fanatic15
MV-7 on the eye blacks? - Cool
Free Mike Vick Shirt? - Not cool. He plead guilty so saying "Free Mike Vick" imo is basically condoning his actions. You free innocent people, not the guilty. I don't agree w/ that at all.
Do you have friends? Assuming that you do, if one of them got arrested for something like this, would you not at least morally support him simply because they're your friend, even if you don't agree with or are even appalled by what he did?
but by saying Free him, u support his actions...
Assumption.
And still got fined. I don't understand why people are arguing over one word, here.
Exactly.
I can make assumptions, as well. "Free Mike Vick", "Support MikeVick", "Love Mike Vick", what's it matter? We all know what the point was, and people areoverreacting.
You can support your friend without wishing that his crime goes unpunished
NFL begs to differ.
Assumption.Originally Posted by Kiddin Like Jason
but by saying Free him, u support his actions...
And still got fined. I don't understand why people are arguing over one word, here.
Exactly.
I can make assumptions, as well. "Free Mike Vick", "Support Mike Vick", "Love Mike Vick", what's it matter? We all know what the point was, and people are overreacting.
Well put it this way.. By saying Free him, the general perception is that you support his actions.
Thanks. I was cracking up at that free speech stuff. Glad some people came in here and got it worked out.Originally Posted by dmxfury
I understand that "Free _______" is a sign of support, but it is pretty black and white with the wording. Why not wear a shirt that says "Much Love Mike" or "I still support Mike Vick", etc. Better ways to say it. I don't feel bad though, they knew what they were getting into when wearing the shirts. They knew a fine would be coming and were obviously ok with it. If they are ok with it, we should probably all be ok with it.
And a Taylor comparison is apples to oranges. Clearly not even close to the same situation
Finally, I would love a Free Enron shirt
Except that you know nothing about free speech so quit citing it like you really understand the constitution. There are dress requirements in the NFL having to do with uniforms - isn't that a violation of free speech? The answer is no - it's not. They're a business and nobody is obligated to work for them, if you don't adhere to their rules stated in the contract that YOU sign they can fine you and even kick you out entirely... nice try though.
NFL begs to differ.Originally Posted by CasperFromKIDS
You can support your friend without wishing that his crime goes unpunished
Originally Posted by H TOWN HUSTLER
Thanks. I was cracking up at that free speech stuff. Glad some people came in here and got it worked out.Originally Posted by dmxfury
I understand that "Free _______" is a sign of support, but it is pretty black and white with the wording. Why not wear a shirt that says "Much Love Mike" or "I still support Mike Vick", etc. Better ways to say it. I don't feel bad though, they knew what they were getting into when wearing the shirts. They knew a fine would be coming and were obviously ok with it. If they are ok with it, we should probably all be ok with it.
And a Taylor comparison is apples to oranges. Clearly not even close to the same situation
Finally, I would love a Free Enron shirt
Except that you know nothing about free speech so quit citing it like you really understand the constitution. There are dress requirements in the NFL having to do with uniforms - isn't that a violation of free speech? The answer is no - it's not. They're a business and nobody is obligated to work for them, if you don't adhere to their rules stated in the contract that YOU sign they can fine you and even kick you out entirely... nice try though.