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If the Pats win on Sunday, they will have reached the Super Bowl in 50% of all seasons where Brady starts.
And you guys rank this guy #5
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Fans can only do so much. Nothing can stop terrible owners/management.
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Brady da gawd
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Y'all peons will always find a way to **** on Brady
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Ranking Brady 5 of all time QBs is peeing on him?
How good does that team look without Brady? We've seen it for a season.....
How good does that team look without Brady? We've seen it for a season.....
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Not good enough to make the Super Bowl 50% of the time, that's for sure.,,
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If the Pats win on Sunday, they will have reached the Super Bowl in 50% of all seasons where Brady starts.
And you guys rank this guy #5
the ability to learn, adapt, and evolve
no one touches TB12 and BB's ability in that respect
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7 win drop off (11-5)
had the easiest schedule (NFC West and AFC West which at the time were tomato can games)
missed the playoffs
yeah...no drop off in performance
and i don't care if you have brady at 5, 2, or 10. but to say the pats did fine without brady just cause they went 11-5 is asinine. you need to look at more than the record. full context.
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11-5 but semantics
I fail to see how it's disrespect/dumping by putting a guy top 5 EVER at a position
It was 11-5? I was thinking it was 11-5 but then I was thinking how the hell does a team miss the playoffs at 11-5?!
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Minus whale weigh in with my top 5 also.
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You hear almost every year that NE as one of the easiest schedules though. This is common.
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for sure. this was BEYOND easy tho
think back to those two divisions, plus the AFC East, in 2008. laughable.
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for sure. this was BEYOND easy tho
think back to those two divisions, plus the AFC East, in 2008. laughable.
But a random QB coming in and starting for a team going 11-5 doesn't say anything? How often does a team lose a starter and the team is done? This season said a lot about BB and his coaching.
If Peyton had three rings out of five visits and Brady had one out of two visits, would this even be a debate?
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for sure. this was BEYOND easy tho
think back to those two divisions, plus the AFC East, in 2008. laughable.
But a random QB coming in and starting for a team going 11-5 doesn't say anything? How often does a team lose a starter and the team is done? This season said a lot about BB and his coaching.
If Peyton had three rings out of five visits and Brady had one out of two visits, would this even be a debate?
peyton doesn't have three rings tho. he doesn't even have the appearances or number of deep playoff runs. and again, if you have peyton ahead, no problem. that's fine.
this is more about that 11-5 season and what it meant.
and no doubt it speaks to BB's coaching. but again, you miss the playoffs at 11-5...what's that mean? other teams are doing better than you. you go from juggernaut to not playoff worth. 11-5 as a record is a relative "stat". that year, an 11-5 record clearly was average.
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7 win drop off (11-5)
had the easiest schedule (NFC West and AFC West which at the time were tomato can games)
missed the playoffs
yeah...no drop off in performance
and i don't care if you have brady at 5, 2, or 10. but to say the pats did fine without brady just cause they went 11-5 is asinine. you need to look at more than the record. full context.
You know my thoughts so I am sure you are going to have a hard time believing that this is an attempt to be unbiased.....
But I dont see how the years that Peyton and Brady missed...and their team's subsequent record without them....dont at least play a TINY role in how the two are viewed. Yes, DS, the Pats were clearly not the same team without Brady. 11-5 doesnt tell the whole story at all. But without Peyton, the Colts were the worst team in the NFL. Thats it. THE worst. And all they were missing was Peyton. In fact, the team the year before had a TON of starters hurt, yet were still a playoff team. The next season, they were remarkably healthy, minus Peyton....and all of a sudden theybare the worst team in the NFL.
I do not place a TON of stock on all this when judging the two QBs against each other. But I just dont see how it can be dismissed. For me, its absolutely a factor when comparing the two, albeit a small one.
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I thought we were all going to agree that opinions vary and we all hold both in high regard. Guess when favorites are "slighted", people just can't let it go
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I still dont get how NE is in the position they are in knowing there current roster is :x .....like thats crazy "Spygate" still going on 
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I think we overstate the meaning of that year without Peyton, and here's why:
1. The Colts didn't go from Peyton to a league average backup, they went to one of the worst starting QBs of the last 10 years.
2. The talent around Peyton had already been allowed to devolve, it was significantly worse than it had been while he was succeeding on the Colts.
3. Jim Caldwell did a terrible job and was fired the next year.
4. The organization committed to tanking to an NBA-team extent
I say that out of context in this argument... But I think that the 2-win year was a big aberration for that team. And it's overused in terms of both Peyton's loss to the team (still enormous) and Luck's impact improving it (still very big).
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