NFL Discussion Thread - Hall of Fame Game: August 3rd

[Chester McFloppy]

QBs get all the credit for wins.
QBs get all the blame for losses.

That's just the way it is.

 

[madj55]

I hope RG3 goes the Marshawn Lynch route and doesn't talk to the media at all in 2014.

BTW, London Fletcher has been on Twitter calling out Jim Haslett and did so in some press conferences as well this year. He's just calling it how he sees it IMO. But, then again, it's not like he was in the locker room or has spent any time in there to back up his claims...and it's not like his locker was right next to RG3's either.

 

[va757va]

are you remembering the game correctly ? Brady led them down for a score to put them up 14-10 with 2:42 seconds left , then the defense let up a TD to Plaxico , only giving Brady and the offense 0:35 to get them in field goal range . id hardly say thats Brady losing them the super bowl ...

Peyton lead his team down last year against bmore. Blah blah. Raheem Moore happened.


It was still considered Peyton's fault in everyone's eyes.

Diff guys can't play by diff rules if their all in the same "elite club".

 

[mwalker]

Tomorrow is the day, hoping my pats can pull out the win 

 

[stillin729]

are you remembering the game correctly ? Brady led them down for a score to put them up 14-10 with 2:42 seconds left , then the defense let up a TD to Plaxico , only giving Brady and the offense 0:35 to get them in field goal range . id hardly say thats Brady losing them the super bowl ...

He only scored two touchdowns and had 35 seconds left

See what I did there

Excuses for Brady, ether for Peyton

 

[va757va]

I hope RG3 goes the Marshawn Lynch route and doesn't talk to the media at all in 2014.

BTW, London Fletcher has been on Twitter calling out Jim Haslett and did so in some press conferences as well this year. He's just calling it how he sees it IMO. But, then again, it's not like he was in the locker room or has spent any time in there to back up his claims...and it's not like his locker was right next to RG3's either.

You coulda did without the bolded. Seems like ur taking it personal.

But everyone can agree London is a stand up guy. I've never met nobody who doesn't like him or respect him.


But why is his word gospel? For all we know he was being PC, Tryna keep the peace.

Y'all picking and choosing who to believe.

Nd usually the negative stories are slander or lies. And the good ones are facts and his locker is next to him so no way he can lie.

I take it ALL with a grain. Cause nobody really knows except those directly involved.

It's not outside the realm of possibilities that all this is true tho. Nd y'all disregarding it like it is.

 

[mez 0ne]

Peyton did "enough" to win that game last year.

 

[lightweight champion]

You really cannot say a bad word about any Seahawk

10k capes will come soaring to defend their players' honor

 

[coltfanb]

if im not mistaken , Peyton has 7 "one and done"s in the playoffs as the 1 or 2 seed , meaning he was at home and coming off the bye week . since no one is arguing that Rodgers is the best of all time and his playoff record is better , he doesnt get held to the same standard

peyton only went one and done as a 1 or 2 seed 4 times, 3 with the colts 1 with the broncos

 

[va757va]

Peyton did "enough" to win that game last year.

Exactly.


It's funny when dudes bringing up trindon holiday returns. Yet the very next breath blame Peyton's OT int for the lose (Raheem more).


So is it a team game? Or is it Peyton's fault?


Cause if it's a team game. Don't forget to mention Raheem Moore.

Seems like an agenda to me.


Ijs

 

[stillin729]

Peyton is gonna push it in and end everyones darling Chargers season on Sunday

 

[deuce king]

Sally Jenkins has had a few instances of shoddy reporting in the past (Lance Armstrong/Joe Paterno), but we'll give her the benefit of the doubt when she's adding gasoline to the fire when discussing the Skins. Sally Jenkins had NO sources to her article, but yet what she's saying is more credible than what London Fletcher was speaking on? How does that make any sense?

*edit*

For the 10000th time, no one said RG3 is w/o criticism. However, there are two types of criticism surrounding him. Valid - meaning FACTUAL, and Baseless - meaning, without fact.

We're going in circles here.  As I said before, of course Sally Jenkins has been wrong in her reporting before........who hasn't.  You believe Sally Jenkins to be bias, just like I believe London Fletcher to be bias, just like you believe me to be bias on the RGIII matter, just like I believe you to be bias on the RGIII matter.  I think I covered all bases there

.  Just like in any situation, I do believe that the truth will eventually rise to the top, especially regarding this matter and who was on the right side and who wasn't. 

Also, as far as the Sally Jenkins article and no source being listed, I believe the source is one of the Shanahan's if not both.  You know how it goes though, nobody wants to be listed as a rat if they can avoid it. 

Cause it can def go both ways. Sally can be lying, but London could just be giving the PC answer.

I agree. 

I hope RG3 goes the Marshawn Lynch route and doesn't talk to the media at all in 2014

Babies need milk to survive champ. 

 

[madj55]

You coulda did without the bolded. Seems like ur taking it personal.

But everyone can agree London is a stand up guy. I've never met nobody who doesn't like him or respect him.


But why is his word gospel? For all we know he was being PC, Tryna keep the peace.

Y'all picking and choosing who to believe.

Nd usually the negative stories are slander or lies. And the good ones are facts and his locker is next to him so no way he can lie.

I take it ALL with a grain. Cause nobody really knows except those directly involved.

It's not outside the realm of possibilities that all this is true tho. Nd y'all disregarding it like it is.

it's the internet, and especially here I wouldn't take anything personally. Don't know why you thought I took it that way.

I'm just saying who would you believe: the guy who is in the locker room with RG3 everyday and is in the locker right next to him or a journalist who has a hatred for the ******** and everything they're about? If London would've backed up Jenkins' story I'd believe him as well.

 

[Chester McFloppy]

If Dallas Clark doesn't drop a 4th down pass, they beat the Chargers...

If Pierre Garcon doesn't have two bad drops, and the defense doesn't allow Mark Sanchez to move down the field with less than a minute remaining, they beat the Jets...

There's plenty of 'ifs' for every QB in the league, especially during the playoffs. End of the day, it falls on them.

 

[va757va]

If London would've backed up Jenkins' story I'd believe him as well.

Fair point.

 

[dmxfury]

I hope so, maybe he can start living up to that legacy.

We get it

 

[fraij da 5 11]

If Dallas Clark doesn't drop a 4th down pass, they beat the Chargers...

If Pierre Garcon doesn't have two bad drops, and the defense doesn't allow Mark Sanchez to move down the field with less than a minute remaining, they beat the Jets...

There's plenty of 'ifs' for every QB in the league, especially during the playoffs. End of the day, it falls on them.

If Micah Hyde just squeezes that rock....

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

 

[dmxfury]

If Mendy doesn't fumble......

 

[stillin729]

If only McNabb held it in a little longer

 

[va757va]

If Patrick Clayton caught that deep post. Smh

 

[maxelite]

Babies need milk to survive champ.

OK...?



U swear you're dropping gems dont you

 

[tramericanjr]

dont know what the beef with ric flair is for the people of carolina, as well as the panther players.... Ric flair is in his 60's the panthers have been in existence less than 20 years....

when he was growing up in the 60's, 70's, 80's he probably was a true niners fan.... when panthers debut, im sure he like the team based on location, and location alone.... so whats the problem?

 

[stillin729]

dont know what the beef with ric flair is for the people of carolina, as well as the panther players.... Ric flair is in his 60's the panthers have been in existence less than 20 years....

when he was growing up in the 60's, 70's, 80's he probably was a true niners fan.... when panthers debut, im sure he like the team based on location, and location alone.... so whats the problem?

I gotta study up on my Rosetta Stone to understand what was just said

 

[proshares]

If Patrick Clayton caught that deep post. Smh

Man why would you do that

 

[dmxfury]

The panthers may have an issue with Flair but NC loves him from everything I've seen and experienced