News On Future Films Based on Comics/Paranormal/Sci-Fi

[sunshineblotters]

No it popped up on my feed.

The game was Capcom's Asura's Wrath. The last 3 missions was DLC. I hope the people who played that game just youtubed it.

 

[Ja's 2¢]

oh that game. I tried the demo way back, way too many QTEs. :x And of course it's capcom once again so doesn't surprise me one bit.

 

[rfx45]

Zod really wouldn't listen there, his mind is set to taking over Earth. You also have to remember in the beginning before he sent Kal-El to Earth, Jor-El said Earth is the best planet for Kryptoians and Zod knew that. Zod wasn't going to leave because Earth was their best chance at repopulating his race. Zod is stubborn and a villain, why is it out of bounds of imagination that he will be stubborn and not listen? He is a typical villain that you just know he isn't going to listen no matter what and feels he is above all creatures.

Again that discussion was the writer saying "Zod never said he'd destroy Earth" but he was wrong, Zod did say he would. Dude was looking for a mistake in the film but that mistake he pointed out wasn't there. Having Kal offer up the codex in his body so that Zod would leave is just changing everything, not pointing out a mistake that the writers/director made.

Yes he did have a choice. Saying he had no idea how to stop him is a cop out. Just like you 75 years of Superman comics to point to him ******* up, there's 75 years worth of comics of him stopping strong ppl without killing them (including Zod). I mean the same time he snaps his neck he could've simply directed it in to the ground or away from ppl or blow some ice breath on his head or his use on his heat vision to stop Zod's or to distract Zod break his arm so that momentary pain would cause him to stop his heat vision or instead of holding on to Zod use his super speed to save the targeted humans or a plethora of other outs.

Well now you're just changing the story they want to tell. Even if he temporarily stops Zod from killing that family, Zod will just keep on trucking and just cannot be stopped. At the end, the film is set up so that Supes has no choice and had to kill and that was the right time and had the biggest impact.

I mean sure the whole scene wasn't perfect, I mean why couldn't Zod look at the family and kill them with the heat vision? Why is it locked in to his head position/movement? But really stopping Zod there is just delaying the inevitable. People were already complaining about destruction, if Supes just delays Zods death it'll just cause more destruction as the battle becomes extended but at the end of the day that is the message they decided to tell, that pushed to the corner Supes will kill as a last resort and that is to save humanity (which is shown in the comics). Again, he chose humans over his race. I also wrote all the times dude tried to save people throughout the film. I am not sure how much more care for humanity they have to show? It's not his fault another super powered being who cannot beat is throwing him around the city. He said it himself, kill him or he will kill all the humans.

Frost breath wasn't on the film by the way.


As for the comics reference, my reference of him messing up is to show it isn't out of character to the film because dude keep saying that they got nothing right. Using the history as an example of how to stop him isn't exactly accurate because those times has Supes either prepared with resources or are just more knowledgeable/experienced. In the comics he usually gets beaten, finds a way to stop or weaken his opponent and then come back stronger and win. The movie doesn't grant him that, he had to act on the spot and I cannot stress it enough but he is a newb at it. Sure they can change it but again that will take away to the message they wanted to send, to kill as a last resort. It wasn't his first choice, probably not the second or third or fourth and he completely mad at what he has done in the end.


Again how is he going to contain Zod there even if he doesn't snap his neck in the end? Zod has infinite stamina like him, better trained and skilled in fighting, determined to just kill, etc... No phantom zone, no ship or the help of his virtual dad and again he is a newb. The movie created that situation so that his action makes sense. Again I am sure you can find ways to stop him but the end result has to be Superman killing Zod (because that's what they wanted to show, it's not like they were writing it and they got stuck on that part and said, "what do we do now? Do we have to kill Zod?") and within the events in the film without changing it. Within the movies parameters and set up, what could he have done? That was the issue I am discussing about.


Now the decision to kill or not to kill Zod is a different story and people will just have to like it or not, agree and disagree because that will completely change the story they want to tell.

 

[CP1708]

Supes was holding Zod's head/neck. If Supes lets go, doesn't Zod just clearly move his head to the family immediately? Hence, the danger.

Break his arm.


Ya know what I don't get, why didn't Supes fly up into the sky, and spin around the world 10-12 times to get the planet spinning the other direction, then turn back around and spin it again with another 10-12 spins, to make things "normal" again?

Why didn't Snyder think of that? Would have saved Zod's life, fixed all the broken glass in the city, and all kinds of stuff. Snyder and his team are idiots.

 

[kal-el-8]

Supes was holding Zod's head/neck. If Supes lets go, doesn't Zod just clearly move his head to the family immediately? Hence, the danger.

Break his arm.


Ya know what I don't get, why didn't Supes fly up into the sky, and spin around the world 10-12 times to get the planet spinning the other direction, then turn back around and spin it again with another 10-12 spins, to make things "normal" again?

Why didn't Snyder think of that? Would have saved Zod's life, fixed all the broken glass in the city, and all kinds of stuff. Snyder and his team are idiots.

I thought you were a fan of MOS?

 

[CP1708]

That post was dripping in sarcasm bro. Like, sopping. The Atlantic ocean has less wetness.

 

[KingParappa]

That was just the tip of the iceberg. How many studios have been put on blast for selling DLC that was just locked disc content

I read about one game that there was no way to see the ending without the DLC. The game ends as if it was set up for a sequel but that ending was setting up the DLC.

This comic pretty much sums up the current game industry.

http://www.dorkly.com/post/65536/how-every-awful-video-game-thing-was-born#!bmxTOm

Just swap out the last panel with http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=274135797 (yes this is a real thing)

Props to Rockstar and Bethesda for actually putting in effort in their DLC.

Asura's Wraith... F* CAPCOM

 

[kal-el-8]

That post was dripping in sarcasm bro. Like, sopping. The Atlantic ocean has less wetness.

I just woke up from a nap, sarcasm meter clearly hasn't kicked in yet

 

[rfx45]

Fox panel is live right now by the way, live blog here: http://www.superherohype.com/news/310235-comic-con-20th-century-fox-panel-live-blog-2


They denied having anything F4 but they could still surprise people. And I am hoping they end it with some info on the X-franchise.

Not even sure why Let's Be Cops is at Comic-Con?

 

[sunshineblotters]

oh that game. I tried the demo way back, way too many QTEs. :x And of course it's capcom once again so doesn't surprise me one bit.

There were rumors of Capcom going bankrupt. I was hoping they would be true just for that. Sony or Nintendo (hopefully Sony) could buy em out and end this. Japanese law forbids non Japanese companies from buying their corporations so Microsoft would be out of the running. Im not sure how it works tho, probably has loopholes since Google owns Motorolas cell phone division.

I think how they treated Inafune San was the last straw for most gamers. If anything he should've owned the company.

That and how they handled MvC 3. Had something like 14 characters just for the "Ultimate" version to come out later It's not like I didnt expect that. I didnt expect it to be so fast.

 

[Master Zik]

Zod really wouldn't listen there, his mind is set to taking over Earth. You also have to remember in the beginning before he sent Kal-El to Earth, Jor-El said Earth is the best planet for Kryptoians and Zod knew that. Zod wasn't going to leave because Earth was their best chance at repopulating his race. Zod is stubborn and a villain, why is it out of bounds of imagination that he will be stubborn and not listen? He is a typical villain that you just know he isn't going to listen no matter what and feels he is above all creatures.

Again that discussion was the writer saying "Zod never said he'd destroy Earth" but he was wrong, Zod did say he would. Dude was looking for a mistake in the film but that mistake he pointed out wasn't there. Having Kal offer up the codex in his body so that Zod would leave is just changing everything, not pointing out a mistake that the writers/director made.

Yes he did have a choice. Saying he had no idea how to stop him is a cop out. Just like you 75 years of Superman comics to point to him ******* up, there's 75 years worth of comics of him stopping strong ppl without killing them (including Zod). I mean the same time he snaps his neck he could've simply directed it in to the ground or away from ppl or blow some ice breath on his head or his use on his heat vision to stop Zod's or to distract Zod break his arm so that momentary pain would cause him to stop his heat vision or instead of holding on to Zod use his super speed to save the targeted humans or a plethora of other outs.

Well now you're just changing the story they want to tell. Even if he temporarily stops Zod from killing that family, Zod will just keep on trucking and just cannot be stopped. At the end, the film is set up so that Supes has no choice and had to kill and that was the right time and had the biggest impact.

I mean sure the whole scene wasn't perfect, I mean why couldn't Zod look at the family and kill them with the heat vision? Why is it locked in to his head position/movement? But really stopping Zod there is just delaying the inevitable. People were already complaining about destruction, if Supes just delays Zods death it'll just cause more destruction as the battle becomes extended but at the end of the day that is the message they decided to tell, that pushed to the corner Supes will kill as a last resort and that is to save humanity (which is shown in the comics). Again, he chose humans over his race. I also wrote all the times dude tried to save people throughout the film. I am not sure how much more care for humanity they have to show? It's not his fault another super powered being who cannot beat is throwing him around the city. He said it himself, kill him or he will kill all the humans.

Frost breath wasn't on the film by the way.


As for the comics reference, my reference of him messing up is to show it isn't out of character to the film because dude keep saying that they got nothing right. Using the history as an example of how to stop him isn't exactly accurate because those times has Supes either prepared with resources or are just more knowledgeable/experienced. In the comics he usually gets beaten, finds a way to stop or weaken his opponent and then come back stronger and win. The movie doesn't grant him that, he had to act on the spot and I cannot stress it enough but he is a newb at it. Sure they can change it but again that will take away to the message they wanted to send, to kill as a last resort. It wasn't his first choice, probably not the second or third or fourth and he completely mad at what he has done in the end.


Again how is he going to contain Zod there even if he doesn't snap his neck in the end? Zod has infinite stamina like him, better trained and skilled in fighting, determined to just kill, etc... No phantom zone, no ship or the help of his virtual dad and again he is a newb. The movie created that situation so that his action makes sense. Again I am sure you can find ways to stop him but the end result has to be Superman killing Zod (because that's what they wanted to show, it's not like they were writing it and they got stuck on that part and said, "what do we do now? Do we have to kill Zod?") and within the events in the film without changing it. Within the movies parameters and set up, what could he have done? That was the issue I am discussing about.


Now the decision to kill or not to kill Zod is a different story and people will just have to like it or not, agree and disagree because that will completely change the story they want to tell.

Well I did say putting it being a movie aside, they obviously had a direction. They obviously wanted Supes to murder Zod in that fashion along with all of the other questionable **** they did. So of course I'm changing the story they want to tell. I thought their story was ****.

As far as what Zod would and wouldn't do. He wasn't immediately hostile from the jump when it came to this codex stuff on some kill all mankind and make Earth New Krypton. As things got revealed Supes could've took the initiative. If Zod don't want to listen, simply fly to Mars and tell him he left the codex there. Superman was more reactive than anything. He came off dumb there the way he dealt with Zod. So yeah he's a noob in that respect but to doesn't help all that much with what he does in the end.

Again I fully got you reference to the comics. I simply countered to say you can reference the comics to show all the times he didn't have to kill in hard situations.

As far as containing Zod without killing him. Knock him out (I assume he can do that if he's capable of breaking his neck), get that super prison built, and now the population is one or he could go back to the kryptonian ship and find a way to incapacitate Zod or he can paralyze Zod with some heat vision to the spinal column (Supes could've easily been forced to do that more so than forced to snap his neck)/thrust his hand in to his spine and rip a vertebrae out. As for the situation itself no he didn't have to snap his neck to save those ppl. He had him in the headlock he could've flew away with Zod with ease but he just kneeled there holding his head trying to keep it straight screaming like a vagina.

As for he'd be delaying the inevitable That kinda seems to me you completely ditched the essence of Superman. If you're just gonna say what's the point if it'll happen anyway Superman should kill or paralyze every super villain he faces. I mean they're all gonna just break out of prison and kill again right? I mean c'mon man As if that's not the common sense answer if you get tired of comics and the revolving door of crime. The whole thing about superheroes and especially Superman is that they're suppose to be better than that. If you want Golden age rules then every villain viewed in a negative light should be killed. Batman should be killing, Flash, GL, and when Wonder Woman shows up she should be extra ruthless, etc. If you want things to get that reality based.

Supes was holding Zod's head/neck. If Supes lets go, doesn't Zod just clearly move his head to the family immediately? Hence, the danger.

Break his arm.


Ya know what I don't get, why didn't Supes fly up into the sky, and spin around the world 10-12 times to get the planet spinning the other direction, then turn back around and spin it again with another 10-12 spins, to make things "normal" again?

Why didn't Snyder think of that? Would have saved Zod's life, fixed all the broken glass in the city, and all kinds of stuff. Snyder and his team are idiots.

Now you thinking CP.

Supes should've just gave Zod a super kiss which would've caused instantaneous amnesia. Zod forgets who he is and his goals. Problem solved.

 

[jiffyl00b]

They denied having anything F4 but they could still surprise people. And I am hoping they end it with some info on the X-franchise.

Channing Tatum was spotted there for another panel I believe, but rumors are that he'll pop up during Fox's panel.

 

[rfx45]

If Zod don't want to listen simply fly to Mars and tell him he left the codex there.

But Superman is the codex.

As far as containing Zod without killing him. Knock him out (I assume he can do that if he's capable of breaking his neck), get that super prison built, and now the population is one or he could go back to the kryptonian ship and find a way to incapacitate Zod or he can paralyze Zod with some heat vision to the spinal column (Supes could've easily been forced to do that more so than forced to snap his neck)/thrust his hand in to his spine and rip a vertebrae out.

He can't be knocked out, he tried by punching him countless of time to no avail. The Kryptonian ships were destroyed and even if it weren't, he doesn't have the time. If him punching the hell out of him doesn't o much, ho would he think he could paralyze him when he knows hi own body can't get hurt or be injured that much? RIpping his vertebrae would likely kill him too.

As for he'd be delaying the inevitable roll.gif That kinda seems to me if you completely ditched the essence of Superman. If you're just gonna say what's the point if it'll happen anyway Superman should kill or paralyze every super villain he faces. I mean they're all gonna just break out of prison and kill again right? I mean c'mon man laugh.gif As if that's not the common sense answer if you get tired of comics and the revolving door of crime. The whole thing about superheroes and especially Superman is that they're suppose to be better than that. If you want Golden age rules then every villain viewed in a negative light should be killed. Batman should be killing, Flash, GL, and when Wonder Woman shows up she should be extra ruthless, etc. If you want things to get that reality based.

Well that's not true at all. Again, you have to look at the parameters and the events that happened and led to his actions. Ignoring that and you can easily put different scenarios there that could work.

But the breaking out of prison is in line with the comics and not just DC comics, Marvel too. Again, Zod isn't some thug you can lock up in Arkham and there is no sign in the whole film where Supes could stop him. You can't just say "they can put him in a super jail cel" when that doesn't exist in the film. He also isn't experienced and he doesn't have those resources. He can't just retreat to the farm and let Zod run loose and kill millions while he thinks of a way to stop him w/o killing him. Again, within the parameters of the film. "Delaying the inevitable" argument in that film makes sense, it just does because of what they set up.

You are Superman in that scene holding Zods head and you have a second to think, your arm is around his neck and moving it risks killing the family, what would you do? What could you do? If you happen to save the family without killing Zod, then what? The fight continues? What else could you do w/o a second to think because Zod is relentlessly kicking your butt and every second you do nothing could cost a human life. Keep in mind everything that has happened in the film, no more Kryptonian ship, everything you have done has not even slowed down Zod and you do not know any weakness he has and for all you know he doesn't have any because he lost everything and just there to kill all humans.



And again you are saying they "have to be better than that" and yes I get that but this is the process to get there. Why aren't people getting that? It's an origins film. He doesn't have to be great and perfect from the get go, he has to learn and make mistake and experience the repercussions to become that big blue boy scout that he is. Why can't they do that to make the character more interesting? To get people to relate? As you agreed on before, he has made mistakes in the comics before so it isn't out of character. He has even done it in the comics so again it is in line with the comics, it isn't something that's never happened before.

 

[rfx45]

They denied having anything F4 but they could still surprise people. And I am hoping they end it with some info on the X-franchise.

Channing Tatum was spotted there for another panel I believe, but rumors are that he'll pop up during Fox's panel.

They have another movie panel? I thought all that's left are just their tv show panels?

 

[sunshineblotters]

 

[Master Zik]

If Zod don't want to listen simply fly to Mars and tell him he left the codex there.

But Superman is the codex.

Well when did Zod find that out? Cuz Supes could've simply lied and told him he left it there before Zod figures out Supes is the codex, then get that phantom zone projector working and zap em all away.

As far as containing Zod without killing him. Knock him out (I assume he can do that if he's capable of breaking his neck), get that super prison built, and now the

He can't be knocked out, he tried by punching him countless of time to no avail. The Kryptonian ships were destroyed and even if it weren't, he doesn't have the time. If him punching the hell out of him doesn't o much, ho would he think he could paralyze him when he knows hi own body can't get hurt or be injured that much? RIpping his vertebrae would likely kill him too.

Well I guess we can go back to my other suggestions like paralyzing him or lobotomizing him but imo Supes aint trying hard enough. If he can snap his neck he should be able to knock him out.

Also no, heat vision to one of the vertebrae isn't sure to kill him. I don't get how you can say how could he think he could paralyze him if he was thinking of killing him? In what rationale do you think you can kill somebody but not cripple them? Is that some new kryptonian power? Death before being handicap?

As for he'd be delaying the inevitable roll.gif That kinda seems to me if you completely ditched the essence of Superman. If you're just gonna say what's the point if it'll happen anyway Superman should kill or paralyze every super villain he faces. I mean they're all gonna just break out of prison and kill again right? I mean c'mon man laugh.gif As if that's not the common sense answer if you get tired of comics and the revolving door of crime. The whole thing about superheroes and especially Superman is that they're suppose to be better than that. If you want Golden age rules then every villain viewed in a negative light should be killed. Batman should be killing, Flash, GL, and when Wonder Woman shows up she should be extra ruthless, etc. If you want things to get that reality based.

Well that's not true at all. Again, you have to look at the parameters and the events that happened and led to his actions. Ignoring that and you can easily put different scenarios there that could work.

But the breaking out of prison is in line with the comics and not just DC comics, Marvel too.

I know that I was lambasting that entire ridiculous reply. If you want to be 100% logical the way superheroes go about fighting crime today is completely delaying the inevitable but that's why there's a suspension of disbelief instilled there.

I mean you're saying Superman had to kill Zod. It's not lost on me that in these other movies the villains usually die by their own hand (Doc Ock, Green Goblin, etc.) or have ambiguous ends (Stryker, Red Skull, etc.) or it's okay to kill them cuz they're monsters or aliens (vampires, demons, space aliens invading) or the heroes get the pass on killing (Magneto, Wolverine). The rest treat prison like super villains can't break out (Kingpin, Joker, etc.). So really you're either gonna have Supes do something similar to Spidey or have him cross the line in to Blade/Wolverine territory. Supes never been that type as far as when you're summarizing who he has a hero and what he represents. Too much of a cop out.

Again, Zod isn't some thug you can lock up in Arkham and there is no sign in the whole film where Supes could stop him. He can't just retreat to the farm and let Zod run loose and kill millions while he thinks of a way to stop him w/o killing him. Again, within the parameters of the film. "Delaying the inevitable" argument in that film makes sense, it just does because of what they set up.

Yes you can lock him up. He was locked away in the phantom zone for what 30+ years? and again I listed other options you're selectively forgetting. Tell me about the numerous super villains laying up in Arkham (which aint even a prison btw) that are paralyzed cuz Batman made sure they'd never walk again.

You are Superman in that scene holding Zods head and you have a second to think, your arm is around his neck and moving it risks killing the family, what would you do? What could you do? If you happen to save the family without killing Zod, then what? The fight continues? What else could you do w/o a second to think because Zod is relentlessly kicking your butt and every second you do nothing could cost a human life. Keep in mind everything that has happened in the film, no more Kryptonian ship, everything you have done has not even slowed down Zod and you do not know any weakness he has and for all you know he doesn't have any because he lost everything and just there to kill all humans.

If I'm Superman and I don't want to kill him I force his head to face the floor which I should be more than able to do or I simply grab him by the neck and fly away and then slam in to the ground. I don't stop trying and I don't give up. What second to think? I'm Superman, I've been soaking up solar rays for more than 2 decades I'm sure my super thinking will provide me 1000 alternatives to killing but like I said why I aint flying this fool in to space since he can't fly yet? Rip off his armor and send him in to the freezing cold void of space so I can get my bearings if need be. Last I checked there's a black hole that's reachable in the area. Throw Zod in to that.

And again you are saying they "have to be better than that" and yes I get that but this is the process to get there. Why aren't people getting that? It's an origins film. He doesn't have to be great and perfect from the get go, he has to learn and make mistake and experience the repercussions to become that big blue boy scout that he is. Why can't they do that to make the character more interesting? To get people to relate? As you agreed on before, he has made mistakes in the comics before so it isn't out of character. He has even done it in the comics so again it is in line with the comics, it isn't something that's never happened before.

I get your angle of it's a process and what I'm saying he's no longer starting from zero. Superman automatically forfeited any chance to be eligible for "being better than that" once he killed Zod.

 

[blastercombo]

Essay about MOS?

"Why didn't superman's dad just befriend zod?"


"Why was zod mad in the first place? He should of just been a happy guy"

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Let me put it like this.

Lets say Zach Snyder makes a Wonder Woman movie where Wonder Woman gets raped by the main villain in the film.


It doesn't matter how conniving, how necessary, how effective the rape as seemed in as a plot device, if you make a movie where wonder woman gets raped: YOU FAIL. period. It would be such an inherent perversion of the central conceit of the character it would be impossible to take seriously and it would subvert what ever ideas yu are trying to get across in film.

like it or not, the movies exist with the context of the characters existing mythos and tradition, they reference and invoke them.


if you remove the whole it being superman from MOS, it's probably a C- action flick, but once you the blue tights and the s on his chest you add in the existaing cultural understanding of superman and it completely destroys the movies credibility.

 

[rfx45]

Well I guess we can go back to my other suggestions like paralyzing him or lobotomizing him but imo Supes aint trying hard enough. If he can snap his neck he should be able to knock him out.

Again he tried with his punches and attacks that I am sure he knows would behead normal humans. I mean look at the battle and destruction, he did everything and it had very little to no effect on Zod. How can he not be trying hard enough? He knows his punches would hurt more than slamming his head to the floor or to the wall. There was nothing he could do to make damage. He does't even know how he can paralyze him since again he himself knows he can't get paralyzed or hurt himself.

Yes you can lock him up. He was locked away in the phantom zone for what 30+ years? and again I listed other options you're selectively forgetting. Tell me about the numerous super villains laying up in Arkham (which aint even a prison btw) that are paralyzed cuz Batman made sure they'd never walk again.

It's not forgetting, again all Kryptonian sources Supes has are gone. Even his own ship that delivered him as a baby was destroyed. See the rest below.

If I'm Superman and I don't want to kill him I force his head to face the floor which I should be more than able to do or I simply grab him by the neck and fly away and then slam in to the ground. I don't stop trying and I don't give up. What second to think? I'm Superman, I've been soaking up solar rays for more than 2 decades I'm sure my super thinking will provide me 1000 alternatives to killing but like I said why I aint flying this fool in to space since he can't fly yet? Rip off his armor and send him in to the freezing cold void of space so I can get my bearings if need be. Last I checked there's a black hole that's reachable in the area. Throw Zod in to that.

Like what though? Again, his solution was to send them back to the phantom zone via black hole by crashing his ship to theirs and Zod didn't get sucked up. The ships are gone so are the black holes. So how is he going to make another entrance to the Phantom Zone?

I mean yeah he is suppose to be super smart but he doesn't have years to learn about Kryptonians and their weaknesses. It's all new to him. He can't learn something he has no source of getting the knowledge from, its not like there's a book about Kryptonians he could read on. Either way, being super smart isn't an ability they showed in the movie, he isn't book smart at least not yet, not until he needs it as Clark Kent the journalist not Clark Kent the hobo.

In the end, Zod could fly and so he can just go back to Earth. It isn't going to delay him much.

If Superman doesn't give up, the movie could last forever without ending. Again the film set it up so that he had to kill Zod. They set it up so that there is no other end outside of Zods death.

So really you're either gonna have Supes do something similar to Spidey or have him cross the line in to Blade/Wolverine territory. Supes never been that type as far as when you're summarizing who he has a hero and what he represents. Too much of a cop out.

I get your angle of it's a process and what I'm saying he's no longer starting from zero. Superman automatically forfeited any chance to be eligible for "being better than that" once he killed Zod.

I disagree. He has killed in the comics before and he is still considered the big blue boy scout, the one who is nothing but good and perfect.

 

[blastercombo]

Let me put it like this.

Lets say Zach Snyder makes a Wonder Woman movie where Wonder Woman gets raped by the main villain in the film.

All I needed to read

Bruh

 

[rfx45]

Let me put it like this.

Lets say Zach Snyder makes a Wonder Woman movie where Wonder Woman gets raped by the main villain in the film.


It doesn't matter how conniving, how necessary, how effective the rape as seemed in as a plot device, if you make a movie where wonder woman gets raped: YOU FAIL. period. It would be such an inherent perversion of the central conceit of the character it would be impossible to take seriously and it would subvert what ever ideas yu are trying to get across in film.

like it or not, the movies exist with the context of the characters existing mythos and tradition, they reference and invoke them.


if you remove the whole it being superman from MOS, it's probably a C- action flick, but once you the blue tights and the s on his chest you add in the existaing cultural understanding of superman and it completely destroys the movies credibility.

But now you are just stretching it and reaching with the WW analogy.

Everything in the movie was in line with the Superman comics in one way or the other. He has killed before. He has made mistakes. He isn't perfect. It is in context, it wasn't fully realized as him being the Superman we all knows and loves or hates but that's because it's an origin film, he wasn't even really Clark Kent the reporter. He has to learn.

I don't know why you have it in your mind that he just has to be perfect right away when he puts the suit on and that he could or should do nothing wrong.

 

[rell826]

Just finished watching the first MIB on AMC with the story facts. Movie was damn good.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

But now you are just stretching it and reaching with the WW analogy.

Everything in the movie was in line with the Superman comics in one way or the other. He has killed before. He has made mistakes. He isn't perfect. It is in context, it wasn't fully realized as him being the Superman all knows and loves or hates but that's because it's an origin film, he wasn't even really Clark Kent the reporter. He has to learn.

I don't know why you have it in your mind that he just has to be perfect right away when he puts the suit on and that he could or should do nothing wrong.

dude stop sayin he's killed in the comics like thats supposed to mean something, its been 70 years, he's killed like doomsday and, you read comic and you i both know that if next wensday superman killed someone, it would be a massive controversy.

everyone understands essentially that superman doesn't kill.

the mere fact the people are arguing about it, the critical response to the film tells you something. clearly it wasn't effective making people believe he had to kill superman.

 

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apparently the original version of the script had Zod being sent to the phantom zone.

This somehow makes me angrier.

 

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But now you are just stretching it and reaching with the WW analogy.

Everything in the movie was in line with the Superman comics in one way or the other. He has killed before. He has made mistakes. He isn't perfect. It is in context, it wasn't fully realized as him being the Superman all knows and loves or hates but that's because it's an origin film, he wasn't even really Clark Kent the reporter. He has to learn.

I don't know why you have it in your mind that he just has to be perfect right away when he puts the suit on and that he could or should do nothing wrong.

dude stop sayin he's killed in the comics like thats supposed to mean something, its been 70 years, he's killed like doomsday and, you read comic and you i both know that if next wensday superman killed someone, it would be a massive controversy.

everyone understands essentially that superman doesn't kill.

Well in the movies he has killed once and hasn't done so again yet so it does matter if you're going to put it that way.

I mean your argument is that Superman killing isn't him, like it never happened before but he has clearly killed before (more than once) as a last resort. It's not his first option, it's his last and he regrets it all the time. Again, he doesn't kill but he has done before as a LAST RESORT just like what he did with Zod.

You acting like he is now a murderer in all the upcoming movies and that's all he do from now on is just kill and kill and kill.