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And let's not forget that we're talking about the Detroit Lions here. Stafford deserves some credit for taking them out of the gutters of the NFL
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And let's not forget that we're talking about the Detroit Lions here. Stafford deserves some credit for taking them out of the gutters of the NFL
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i'm not knocking it.. but it's kinda sad we didnt see CJ used in the manner you're talking.. because defenses have to commit so much to them, the other dudes should be able to do work
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Dalton, Bortles, Hoyer, and McCown are starters in this league.
Give me Matty and Stafford all damn day.
Give me Matty and Stafford all damn day.
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People don't realize that Matt Ryan made roddy white a top WR in the league for a couple seasons
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I said it before and will say it again, Matt Ryan is a product of the talent around him. Multiple Top 10 RB, a HOF TE for 5 seasons, a Top 3 WR..... Give any other QB that....
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Roddy was always good. Falcons never passed the ball with Vick, and when they did, Vick wasn't accurate
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Exactly I love Roddy but he didn't reach that level until Matt Ryan. Also I'll even give Mike Smith his props because he did help turn the franchise around too.
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Ryan is surrounded with talent, but is talented enough to not **** it up. Nothing more nothing less.
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I will agree.
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He still has to produce having top talent don't make you good you still have to be good to get the best out of em. Being a product of the environment means you could slot any QB in it and achieve the same results. had tebow of osweiler or any QB that was actually trash or average like alex smith has been over his career was ok the Falcons they wouldn't have achieved the same things
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RG3 went from 100 to 0 real fast smh. I hope he saved his money.
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Happy birthday fellas. I'll toast to you two tonight.
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that first wife he burnt is gonna clean him out
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People didnt give Mike Smith his props. I had no issues with him as a HC.
Roddy was a good receiver he just didnt have the right QB initially. ATL we loved Vick, but a lot of people didnt want to admit he wasnt great as a passer. Also a lot of ppl in ATL were calling for Ryan to be out as QB few years ago
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My thing with mike smith was this. He was a good coach for the time helped bring us up off the mat and I thank him for that. But there are some coaches who can help you rebuild and make you a playoff team and then there are some who can take you to the next level. He did his job rebuilding the team but he was never gonna be the guy that would take us to the SuperBowl. We moved on at the right time
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Vick's early years were make plays with his insane ability or drop the ball to Alge Crumpler, can't put that on Roddy White
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what did he do besides go AWOL?
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Alge and Vick 
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word, his targets went up and dude balled accordingly.
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I agree not saying Roddy was trash just that he wasn't able to reach his potential until May Ryan and Mike Smith
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Matt Ryan is the best QB in the NFC.
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Mike Vick had me pissing off my youth coach because when I played Qb I was always looking to make plays with my legs rather than my arm 
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i mean aint like he did it before the super bowl or anything...
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