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Pau is due for his monthly "great" game.
Probably happy because lil bro ain't playing
Probably happy because lil bro ain't playing
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D-Fish?
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Fish is a Laker legend, but it was hard enough rooting for him his last year on the team. It was worse than Pau now.
But that goes with another point: we were able to flip Fish (along with a pick, I think?) for a nice young piece named Jordan Hill. We should all be hoping to get as lucky with Pau.
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[quote name="CP"]how y'all read/interpret, ain't on me.[/quote]No, but how you present yourself is. Picture zodogg like "Ain't my fault people interpret me as racist. I'm not racist, but if they all think that, that ain't on me." [quote name="CP"]You guys want someone in here, "thas right boo, you righhhh, we don't need no damn draft, dozens of players sign that dotted line and win multiple chips, shO you righhh..[/quote] It's telling that you would suggest that the only way to be different is to be coddlng and belittling.
There is more than one way to do every single thing you can possibly think of in life, including rebuilding. the path you would like the Lakers to go is not the only path, nor is it the right path, the one path, or anything like that. It's... your path. can you present stats that show that your path in rebuilding is 100% the only way to do it? you can show your opinion that it's the most effective way. Awesome. That doesn't mean it's the only way.
I can hear you now, "Oh, so now we're supposed to entertain stupid ideas that are inferior?"
Embrace the arrogant elitism, bruh. No point in arguing what the majority already accepts.
There is more than one way to do every single thing you can possibly think of in life, including rebuilding. the path you would like the Lakers to go is not the only path, nor is it the right path, the one path, or anything like that. It's... your path. can you present stats that show that your path in rebuilding is 100% the only way to do it? you can show your opinion that it's the most effective way. Awesome. That doesn't mean it's the only way.
I can hear you now, "Oh, so now we're supposed to entertain stupid ideas that are inferior?"
Embrace the arrogant elitism, bruh. No point in arguing what the majority already accepts.
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[quote name="grandtheftbike"]CPs posts never bother me
i think for certain posters, because they know it is CP posting, the more they look for it, the more they are going to see it. whatever it is[/quote]Don't bother me, either. not at all.
but like I said, I picture someone defending zodogg like "I don't think he's racist. I think people just look for racism in his posts, then when he post, they see it."
Could be. or it could be that he's racist.
"I don't think CP is a belittleng, arrogant elitist. I think people look for it, and when he posts they find it."
Could be. or it could be that when he takes a stance, his presentation is very belittleing, arrogant, and elitist.
and the thing you probably don't know, gtb, is that CP has bragged about being this way before.
that's the only reason I'm coming from the angle I'm coming from. of course, the labels 'belittleing', 'arrogant', and 'elitist' are negative labels, so he hasn't used those labels. but when you champion the fact that you don't give a **** about the opinions of those less informed/valid than you, that's arrogant, whether you explicitly call it that or not. (fwiw, like I've said before on here, I know I'm arrogant in this regard, because you'll never catch me defending how I am on here like I care.)
When you parade around like your opinion is proven, gospel truth, and the opinions of others is worthless rubbish, that's belittling, whether you call it that or not.
*waits for "Hold up, now you're comparing me to a racist?"* C'mon, you thought it.
i think for certain posters, because they know it is CP posting, the more they look for it, the more they are going to see it. whatever it is[/quote]Don't bother me, either. not at all.
but like I said, I picture someone defending zodogg like "I don't think he's racist. I think people just look for racism in his posts, then when he post, they see it."
Could be. or it could be that he's racist.
"I don't think CP is a belittleng, arrogant elitist. I think people look for it, and when he posts they find it."
Could be. or it could be that when he takes a stance, his presentation is very belittleing, arrogant, and elitist.
and the thing you probably don't know, gtb, is that CP has bragged about being this way before.
that's the only reason I'm coming from the angle I'm coming from. of course, the labels 'belittleing', 'arrogant', and 'elitist' are negative labels, so he hasn't used those labels. but when you champion the fact that you don't give a **** about the opinions of those less informed/valid than you, that's arrogant, whether you explicitly call it that or not. (fwiw, like I've said before on here, I know I'm arrogant in this regard, because you'll never catch me defending how I am on here like I care.)When you parade around like your opinion is proven, gospel truth, and the opinions of others is worthless rubbish, that's belittling, whether you call it that or not.
*waits for "Hold up, now you're comparing me to a racist?"* C'mon, you thought it.
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I'm gonna stay out of this
I don't say MY word is gospel tho.
I say what I think, or what I feel. And then I back those stances up.
And I point out the flaws on that other side. Like I did with this draft-free agent stuff.
I listed a hundred draft picks, and there are like 2-3 free agent signings that altered the league. Kareem, Shaq, LeBron. ALL THREE SUPPLEMENTED BY PICKS. Magic, Kobe, Wade.
Argue it. Fine by me. But it's right there, in everyone's face, to be read. Interpret the info how you wish. But those are the names. If that makes ME, elitist, jerk, mean, unfeeling, then whatever. That, is, not, on, me.
So when I ask, what is more important, the top tier pick we can get, or the free agent we could supplement that pick with (not knowing who either are) then the history of the NBA should tell someone that the pick will be the more important hit. Miss the pick, but land Kevin Love? Comin up short. Nail the pick, and pull Kevin Love, bingo. Nail the pick, miss Kevin Love, but then get say.......LMA? Still in business. By all means, that can be examined, and that's fine, we can do that.
But viewing the history of the NBA after all these years should be easy to do and see the connections. The Draft runs everything, good, and bad. Luckily, we've been great.
I say what I think, or what I feel. And then I back those stances up.
And I point out the flaws on that other side. Like I did with this draft-free agent stuff.
I listed a hundred draft picks, and there are like 2-3 free agent signings that altered the league. Kareem, Shaq, LeBron. ALL THREE SUPPLEMENTED BY PICKS. Magic, Kobe, Wade.
Argue it. Fine by me. But it's right there, in everyone's face, to be read. Interpret the info how you wish. But those are the names. If that makes ME, elitist, jerk, mean, unfeeling, then whatever. That, is, not, on, me.
So when I ask, what is more important, the top tier pick we can get, or the free agent we could supplement that pick with (not knowing who either are) then the history of the NBA should tell someone that the pick will be the more important hit. Miss the pick, but land Kevin Love? Comin up short. Nail the pick, and pull Kevin Love, bingo. Nail the pick, miss Kevin Love, but then get say.......LMA? Still in business. By all means, that can be examined, and that's fine, we can do that.
But viewing the history of the NBA after all these years should be easy to do and see the connections. The Draft runs everything, good, and bad. Luckily, we've been great.
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i lov ethis. i hope kobe takes him under his wing. NY can be great. dude has the skill set, the size, and the confidence to wreck ****. and having kobe...arguably the best ever as your qui gon jin...skys the limit.
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Eh, I don't know about the "wreck ****" part. Young's already 28; let's not talk like he's going to improve THAT much. I hope I'm wrong though.
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It feels good to stop giving a damn about little things.
I thank Ska for setting me straight.
CP's arrogance no longer bothers me. it is what it is at this point.
The only thing that bothers me is Pau Gasol the basketball player, besides that im no worries.
If we win? Cool... nice seeing Kobe play well again.
If we lose? Cool... better draft pick.
Truly a win-win situation for the first time in years.
We should all enjoy it, once the team is rebuilt and we have better talent expectations will rise again and we wont be so non-chalant about losing anymore.
It feels good to stop giving a damn about little things.
I thank Ska for setting me straight.
CP's arrogance no longer bothers me. it is what it is at this point.
The only thing that bothers me is Pau Gasol the basketball player, besides that im no worries.
If we win? Cool... nice seeing Kobe play well again.
If we lose? Cool... better draft pick.
Truly a win-win situation for the first time in years.
We should all enjoy it, once the team is rebuilt and we have better talent expectations will rise again and we wont be so non-chalant about losing anymore.
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yea i was just saying a couple weeks ago i wish dude was younger. with the same skill, then his upside would be crazy. least hes in his prime. we can definitely use that.
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If we win? Cool... nice seeing Kobe play well again.
If we lose? Cool... better draft pick.
Truly a win-win situation for the first time in years.
We should all enjoy it, once the team is rebuilt and we have better talent expectations will rise again and we wont be so non-chalant about losing anymore.
Exactly. It's liberating not stressing each game. Win or lose, cool.
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just think, 5 years from now, the team will be completely different. top to bottom. wild.
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As much as I love Kobe, I'm very interested how this team will be built going forward without him.
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I honestly feel sorry for people who think "Well, he didn't SAY he is _______, so he's not."
Nothing wrong with that.
Awesome. Actually, commendable.
Fixed.
Again, you might not be aware of how condescending and arrogant your posts are, but they are.
Now me personally, when there's a collective opinion of me, I don't fight it, personally. I go one of 2 ways: accept what the majority are saying, be ok w/ it... or begin to work on it if it bothers me. But being bothered by it and then trying to convince the masses that they're wrong? Spun those wheels before, and that's all that is accomplished: spinning wheels.
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same. a lot of the 'older'
As much as I love Kobe, I'm very interested how this team will be built going forward without him.
heads in here witnessed Magics whole career. this will be the first time i will have ever witness a franchise player retire after watching him for 17-18 years. this is all new to me. feels will be had but i am also very excited to whats to come..a new era of lakers basketball 
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See, you gave me an example I can speak on and use, instead of going w/ hypotheticals.
So I'm new, I see you say this to that weird Ska dude, I think "That guy might be a jerk. That's funny, though, put him on ignore. I loled," I move on.
See you disagree with someone else and completely laugh at what they said w/ a trillion emoticons and "How ****** stupid can one Laker fan be? Swear to god, I don't even like y'all sometimes", and NOW I'm thinking "Nope, no 'might be' about it; that guy's a jerk."
Make sense? And of course, you never PMed this new guy and explicitly told him "Oh, hey... I see you're new here. I'm a jerk. Nice to meet you." But he was definitely 'told' that by simply viewing your presentation of yourself.
And again, if you're comfortable w/ that, awesome. You ain't breaking any rules. You're good.
But if you're not comfortable w/ that, convincing everyone who has literally been viewing your posts for years that they're all mistaken won't accomplish anything.
And SECOND OF ALL... your new hypothetical (Trout/Beltran) shows me that you missed my original point. Davis, 2 years ago, had zero professional experience, while Ray Allen did, and had carved a niche for himself w/ his professional experience. Trout does not have 'zero professional experience'. He absolutely has prof experience, and has flourished. Heck yeah I'd take him.
Alright, FIRST OF ALL... we disagree, and you've made that clear. Sarcastically? Yes, but sarcasm is implicitly disrespectful (to some), and not disrespectful at all (to others; I'm 'others', as I LOOOOVE sarcasm).And Ska, if you told me you would take Carlos Beltran right now for 2 years over Mike Trout for the next 15, I might have to put you on ignore.
Please, don't do this to me man. I can't take no more of this old man Ray over Anthony Davis stuff.
So I'm new, I see you say this to that weird Ska dude, I think "That guy might be a jerk. That's funny, though, put him on ignore. I loled," I move on.
See you disagree with someone else and completely laugh at what they said w/ a trillion emoticons and "How ****** stupid can one Laker fan be? Swear to god, I don't even like y'all sometimes", and NOW I'm thinking "Nope, no 'might be' about it; that guy's a jerk."
Make sense? And of course, you never PMed this new guy and explicitly told him "Oh, hey... I see you're new here. I'm a jerk. Nice to meet you." But he was definitely 'told' that by simply viewing your presentation of yourself.
And again, if you're comfortable w/ that, awesome. You ain't breaking any rules. You're good.
But if you're not comfortable w/ that, convincing everyone who has literally been viewing your posts for years that they're all mistaken won't accomplish anything.
And SECOND OF ALL... your new hypothetical (Trout/Beltran) shows me that you missed my original point. Davis, 2 years ago, had zero professional experience, while Ray Allen did, and had carved a niche for himself w/ his professional experience. Trout does not have 'zero professional experience'. He absolutely has prof experience, and has flourished. Heck yeah I'd take him.
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who do the lakers need to keep after this season? is anyone worth an extension now before they get expensive or another team throws stupid money at?
Ok, but you did see Davis for his year in college. Where he dominated, at 18. And his skillset, hustle, length, ability to defend and score, are all translatable traits. He was clearly, going to be a useful talent going forward, even if his offense did not follow suit.
Trout, not bein visible in the minors, I hear that.
Davis WAS visible to you.
Trout, not bein visible in the minors, I hear that.
Davis WAS visible to you.
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I wouldn't mind keeping Swaggy P, srs too. Of course, only at an extremely reasonable price.
