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darthska
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See, to me... I do not care what you do at the lower level (college, overseas, minors, etc)... unless you absolutely DESTROYED that league.
And we might have different definitions of 'dominate', here. I'm positive that by your definition, Eyebrows DID dominate. Walked away with some awards, and a championship. My definition of 'dominate' is when the other team is looking at their coach before the game like "Can we just forfeit? _____ is playing, and this is on national tv, coach." Davis didn't strike fear like THAT.
Zero professional experience... means that all their college success... could be reduced to 'less-than-stellar' when he's fighting against Ron Artest, Paul George, ZBo, X, Kobe, Lebron... Every. Single. Night. For 82 games, not a handful.
The only way I would go with an unproven over a vet would literally be if the answer was making itself for me, like if someone like Vujacic was the best FA available, and UCLA Kareem was available.
If that's not the case, I go w/ the FA and let someone else get the prospect, and if he flourishes, if he ends up being Lebron/Kobe/Durant, I'll scoop him up later. If he ends up being Beasley/Darko/Mateen, that's someone else's problem.
That's just if it's any ol' FA. Ray ain't 'any ol' FA', imo. Perception is the difference between calling him 'one dimensional 3-pter' and 'GOAT 3-pter'. Sure, he brings one thing to the table... but that one thing sure came in handy when Bosh got a particular rebound last year and saw Ray 'conveniently located in prime position to catch and release. Sure, Horry did the same thing for us, and I would absolutely at least flirt w/ the choice to grab 2002/3/4 Horry over someone in the draft. He fills a role: back then, I'm looking at him, and I see he DOES fill a role. This college kid? Might fill a role; might fill a few roles. Might not fit any. But in all the things needed... interior passing, halfcourt offense, transition offense, 3-balls, offensive boards, 50/50 balls, veteran leadership, late-in-the-game execution, etc., etc., etc... Horry does, immediately, fill at least one role. Can't say that about the college kid. You can laugh and say "But he might fit 2 or 3 roles", and 'might' is the best you can say. Or 'highly likely'. But what you can't say, at least not with stats, is 'definitely will.'
darthska
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Am I the only one who sees this and thinks "WEEEEEEE!!!" every time I see it?I wouldn't mind keeping Swaggy P, srs too. Of course, only at an extremely reasonable price.
My son.
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i like swaggy, ears, chill, x, and wes. any chance we keep them all and still sign a top tier free agent 
hopefully :\
hopefully :\
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From one of the best writers in the biz:
Read the whole thing : http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/10120670/the-resurrection-lakers-forward-xavier-henry
Read the whole thing : http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/10120670/the-resurrection-lakers-forward-xavier-henry
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^^good read...hope X resigns but I have a feeling hes gonna ariza/brown/clark it.
Farmar reevaluated today. Out another week at least. Thatll be at least 7 gms without an active PG. FO fail.
Farmar reevaluated today. Out another week at least. Thatll be at least 7 gms without an active PG. FO fail.
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yeezusdisciple
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at least we get their best years
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With X I think the Lakers can keep him... IF they want. The Rockets saw Ariza and thought "hey, this could be our guy" and threw a pretty expensive offer (and the Lakers still could have matched, they just got Artest instead). I don't think X is at that level.
The Lakers could have kept Brown (who signed for $3.5 mil/year) and Clark ($4.24 mil a year) without hurting their pockets too much... they just didn't feel the need to given the luxury tax, other players they had, their overall performance... etc. They would've stayed if the Lakers were willing to give up that type of deal.
I think X, Wes and Farmar have all played to the point where that's their market: 2-3 year deals, $2-4 million per year. The difference for the Lakers is that they are beneath the cap this go-around. That's the choice the Lakers will make... if they want to dent the salary cap space with those deals.
The Lakers could have kept Brown (who signed for $3.5 mil/year) and Clark ($4.24 mil a year) without hurting their pockets too much... they just didn't feel the need to given the luxury tax, other players they had, their overall performance... etc. They would've stayed if the Lakers were willing to give up that type of deal.
I think X, Wes and Farmar have all played to the point where that's their market: 2-3 year deals, $2-4 million per year. The difference for the Lakers is that they are beneath the cap this go-around. That's the choice the Lakers will make... if they want to dent the salary cap space with those deals.
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I usually love reading Abrams' stories, but the X story felt a bit rushes and incomplete.
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would anybody be unhappy if we missed the lotto this year and the next few but end up with a team that has some of this year's pieces, some solid free agents and a kevin love or Durant to build with? anybody not like our chances in that scenario?
history says one thing but this is a brand new culture with this revised cba. I can't say for sure that it's a result of the cba but it seems like lotto picks get flipped more often and guys like Derrick Williams, thomas robinson, jordan hill etc can be had for cheap from teams that can't afford to wait for them to develop. basically there are a lot of smaller market franchises that will be acting as farm teams. So you don't have to throw away a whole season on top of taking the risk on an underperforming player. let another team take the risk and then scoop them up for the minimum or cheap assets
history says one thing but this is a brand new culture with this revised cba. I can't say for sure that it's a result of the cba but it seems like lotto picks get flipped more often and guys like Derrick Williams, thomas robinson, jordan hill etc can be had for cheap from teams that can't afford to wait for them to develop. basically there are a lot of smaller market franchises that will be acting as farm teams. So you don't have to throw away a whole season on top of taking the risk on an underperforming player. let another team take the risk and then scoop them up for the minimum or cheap assets
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i dont think durant will leave okc. russ looks like hes about the money so i can see him leaving. russ also wants to be the guy.
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Okc has already made some huge mistakes managing that team that they are going to have to fix and it may already be too late. talk to datznasty and other okc fans in the nba thread for a better perspective
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OKC will let go of Russ because of Jackson and Lamb evolving into great players.
I hope.
I hope.
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^they are depending on Reggie and lamb more than you might think
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I share the same sentiment.
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ramonashelburne: Lakers decide (at least for now) they're better off WITH Pau Gasol.
Lakers did engage in exploratory talks with several teams but never got too far with any of the discussions. Preference has been to keep Pau
Lakers did engage in exploratory talks with several teams but never got too far with any of the discussions. Preference has been to keep Pau
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damn...i wish they would've never made this public. looks like pau is gonna go back to playing like a pansy. dude only acts right when he thinks he's going to get traded. guess we'll be getting blown out next game. career highs from the 5 spot.
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they need to let other teams know pau can be really really really really aggressive when he plays ping pong
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Stein is sayin LA needs to dangle Pau elsewhere to pull Asik+Lin, and still keep in line for the 2015 festivities. Problem is, Pau don't fit Houston, so need a 3rd team.
Sadly, that makes a lot of sense. Lin basically replaces Nash for good, and knows Mike very well, and Asik is a young and competent big, and like said, don't screw with the 2015 offseason work.
Only messes with the 2014 draft. Of course.
Sadly, that makes a lot of sense. Lin basically replaces Nash for good, and knows Mike very well, and Asik is a young and competent big, and like said, don't screw with the 2015 offseason work.
Only messes with the 2014 draft. Of course.
darthska
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That reminds me, CP.
Prioritize, please:
- 2014 FAs
- 2014 draft
- 2015 FAs
Prioritize, please:
- 2014 FAs
- 2014 draft
- 2015 FAs
