**LA LAKERS THREAD** Sitting on 17! 2023-2024 offseason begins

[James_O]

Not expecting Kyrie to be traded until after KD is moved anyway.

Who else should Aron target with those min contacts?

There’s talk that the Lakers are looking to get both KD and Kyrie. I never see that happening.

 

[cedric ceballos]

I would say the Durant, Kyrie Harden trio is more disappointing than the 2012-13 Lakers imo.

Even with all the talent on the 2012-13 Lakers. There was no guarantee they would win a title if it worked when you consider how good the Spurs were, and that 2012-13 Heat team was the prime Heatles era.

On the other hand. If Durants foot was just a few inches further back on that game 7 shot against the Bucks last year, there’s a strong likelihood they win the title last year. In this case even if they still have the 2021-22 season from hell, they have a title to fall back on. Harden possibly doesn’t want out so fast and there’s more incentive for them to try to make it work. They should’ve handled their business in overtime against Milwaukee. But Durants foot being on the line was franchise altering

 

[pmatic]

I would say the Durant, Kyrie Harden trio is more disappointing than the 2012-13 Lakers imo.

Even with all the talent on the 2012-13 Lakers. There was no guarantee they would win a title if it worked when you consider how good the Spurs were, and that 2012-13 Heat team was the prime Heatles era.

On the other hand. If Durants foot was just a few inches further back on that game 7 shot against the Bucks last year, there’s a strong likelihood they win the title last year. In this case even if they still have the 2021-22 season from hell, they have a title to fall back on. Harden possibly doesn’t want out so fast and there’s more incentive for them to try to make it work. They should’ve handled their business in overtime against Milwaukee. But Durants foot being on the line was franchise altering

KD put that to bed before the playoffs that they would've run out of gas after that Bucks series.

 

[pmatic]

Kevin Pelton trade proposal:

Spoiler

The massive four-teamer between the Nets, Suns, Spurs and, yes, the Lakers

Nets get:
Deandre Ayton
Mikal Bridges
Josh Richardson
2023 first-round pick (via Charlotte)
2025 first-round pick (via Suns; top-4 protected)
2027 first-round pick (via Suns; top-14 protected)

Suns get:
Kevin Durant

Lakers get:
Kyrie Irving

Spurs get:
Russell Westbrook
2027 first-round pick (via Lakers)
2029 first-round pick (via Lakers)

With the Suns one of Durant's preferred destinations, according to ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski, a Brooklyn-Phoenix deal would likely have to be built around a sign-and-trade sending restricted free agent center Deandre Ayton to the Nets, which presents challenges.

If Brooklyn receives Ayton in a sign-and-trade, the team would trigger the NBA's hard cap at the apron, a little more than $7 million above the luxury-tax threshold. Since Ayton (at his max salary) and Bridges would make a combined $51 million, $7 million more than Durant's 2022-23 cap hit, the Nets would have to shed payroll elsewhere.

Enter the Lakers as a destination for Kyrie Irving, which would require a third team to take on Russell Westbrook's $47.1 million salary.

In this construction, the Lakers send their two tradeable first-round picks to the San Antonio Spurs to take on Westbrook in exchange for Josh Richardson and the 2023 Hornets pick the Spurs acquired in the Dejounte Murray trade, which San Antonio can do using cap space. Richardson and the pick then go to Brooklyn with Ayton, Bridges and a pair of future Suns first-rounders -- timed to be far enough in the future that Phoenix is no longer likely to be contending for championships.

The Nets could use the extra picks to build around a core of Ayton, Bridges and Ben Simmons, all of them age 25 or younger at the moment.

-- Kevin Pelton

If the Lakers can, they should bring in Richardson or Joe Harris.

 

[cedric ceballos]

KD put that to bed before the playoffs that they would've run out of gas after that Bucks series.

Wasn’t aware he said that. But players say a bunch of things. At the very least they’re beating Atlanta in the ECF. Gas or no gas, they’re not losing to Atlanta. Now Phoenix, that’s a different story.

Hell even just so much as a Finals appearance there’s more incentive for them to try to make it work to get back and finish the job. Making the finals in year 1 of Durant and Kyrie playing together with the Harden addition.

 

[DLF]

Kevin Pelton trade proposal:

Spoiler

The massive four-teamer between the Nets, Suns, Spurs and, yes, the Lakers

Nets get:
Deandre Ayton
Mikal Bridges
Josh Richardson
2023 first-round pick (via Charlotte)
2025 first-round pick (via Suns; top-4 protected)
2027 first-round pick (via Suns; top-14 protected)

Suns get:
Kevin Durant

Lakers get:
Kyrie Irving

Spurs get:
Russell Westbrook
2027 first-round pick (via Lakers)
2029 first-round pick (via Lakers)

With the Suns one of Durant's preferred destinations, according to ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski, a Brooklyn-Phoenix deal would likely have to be built around a sign-and-trade sending restricted free agent center Deandre Ayton to the Nets, which presents challenges.

If Brooklyn receives Ayton in a sign-and-trade, the team would trigger the NBA's hard cap at the apron, a little more than $7 million above the luxury-tax threshold. Since Ayton (at his max salary) and Bridges would make a combined $51 million, $7 million more than Durant's 2022-23 cap hit, the Nets would have to shed payroll elsewhere.

Enter the Lakers as a destination for Kyrie Irving, which would require a third team to take on Russell Westbrook's $47.1 million salary.

In this construction, the Lakers send their two tradeable first-round picks to the San Antonio Spurs to take on Westbrook in exchange for Josh Richardson and the 2023 Hornets pick the Spurs acquired in the Dejounte Murray trade, which San Antonio can do using cap space. Richardson and the pick then go to Brooklyn with Ayton, Bridges and a pair of future Suns first-rounders -- timed to be far enough in the future that Phoenix is no longer likely to be contending for championships.

The Nets could use the extra picks to build around a core of Ayton, Bridges and Ben Simmons, all of them age 25 or younger at the moment.

-- Kevin Pelton

If the Lakers can, they should bring in Richardson or Joe Harris.

So the Suns would get KD on a 4 year deal and be giving up PROTECTED picks while the lakers get One year Kyrie giving up 2 UNPROTECTED picks. Also, Murray trade needed 3 picks. KD is demanding 4 picks. (2023 2025 2027 2029)

Lol

No


Nets have Zero leverage. They get picks from Lakers and an expiring in Russ. Lakers should only have to give up 1 first rounder since we are only negotiating with ourselves. Nets options are simple. Take Russ and a first OR keep kyrie and have him spoil your year.

 

[pmatic]

So the Suns would get KD on a 4 year deal and be giving up PROTECTED picks while the lakers get One year Kyrie giving up 2 UNPROTECTED picks.

Lol

No


Nets have Zero leverage. They get picks from Lakers and an expiring in Russ. Lakers should only have to give up 1 first rounder since we are only negotiating with ourselves.

Ya I think if I were to revise the trade, Suns would have to give up unprotected 2025, 2027 and 2029 picks. Lakers only give up 2027 and get back Richardson/Harris.

 

[DLF]

Windhorst podcast is great listen this morning.

Windy is saying lakers should barely have to include a 2nd rounder bc of the lack of market for kyrie.

McMahon suggested Bertans and Dinwiddie and 1 pick for kyrie. But windy pushed back with- both those contracts are long term. Russ’ deal being expiring is HUGE. Not sure Nets want long term huge contracts on their books. plus mavs would be gambling with their future as Dinwiddie player well with luka. Lakers are gamblers and do this on a Tuesday

 

[tay1]

Kevin Pelton trade proposal:

Spoiler

The massive four-teamer between the Nets, Suns, Spurs and, yes, the Lakers

Nets get:
Deandre Ayton
Mikal Bridges
Josh Richardson
2023 first-round pick (via Charlotte)
2025 first-round pick (via Suns; top-4 protected)
2027 first-round pick (via Suns; top-14 protected)

Suns get:
Kevin Durant

Lakers get:
Kyrie Irving

Spurs get:
Russell Westbrook
2027 first-round pick (via Lakers)
2029 first-round pick (via Lakers)

With the Suns one of Durant's preferred destinations, according to ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski, a Brooklyn-Phoenix deal would likely have to be built around a sign-and-trade sending restricted free agent center Deandre Ayton to the Nets, which presents challenges.

If Brooklyn receives Ayton in a sign-and-trade, the team would trigger the NBA's hard cap at the apron, a little more than $7 million above the luxury-tax threshold. Since Ayton (at his max salary) and Bridges would make a combined $51 million, $7 million more than Durant's 2022-23 cap hit, the Nets would have to shed payroll elsewhere.

Enter the Lakers as a destination for Kyrie Irving, which would require a third team to take on Russell Westbrook's $47.1 million salary.

In this construction, the Lakers send their two tradeable first-round picks to the San Antonio Spurs to take on Westbrook in exchange for Josh Richardson and the 2023 Hornets pick the Spurs acquired in the Dejounte Murray trade, which San Antonio can do using cap space. Richardson and the pick then go to Brooklyn with Ayton, Bridges and a pair of future Suns first-rounders -- timed to be far enough in the future that Phoenix is no longer likely to be contending for championships.

The Nets could use the extra picks to build around a core of Ayton, Bridges and Ben Simmons, all of them age 25 or younger at the moment.

-- Kevin Pelton

If the Lakers can, they should bring in Richardson or Joe Harris.

Minus the picks, I love the Spurs being stuck with Westbrook for a year

 

[g-time]

Can the Nets take on Jaylen Brown's contract instead of Tatum's?

That’s a good question. I didn’t see his name on the list.

 

[pmatic]

Can the Nets take on Jaylen Brown's contract instead of Tatum's?

That’s a good question. I didn’t see his name on the list.

Yes because Brown isn't making the designated rookie max like Tatum, Booker, Bam are.

 

[pmatic]

 

[lovehateself]

another prodigal sun returns

 

[Lizakers]

Stretch 5 yes please

 

[noblekane]

hopefully

 

[thasoleful1]

Please Bryant don’t choose Celtics of all teams

 

[pmatic]

I would've rather had Bruce Brown than Lonnie Walker. *Shrug*

 

[lovehateself]

I would've rather had Bruce Brown than Lonnie Walker. *Shrug*

word
but doesnt seem like lakers would have offered that 2nd year unless it was a team option

 

[pmatic]

 

[had pants]

 

[DLF]

I would've rather had Bruce Brown than Lonnie Walker. *Shrug*

Came in here to ask you this.

Lonnie walkers advance stats are nauseating.


Plus brown fits well with Kyrie


But it’s ok. Let’s be optimistic. Lonnie will play amazing and improve his defense from an F to A-

 

[noblekane]

did we sign anyone who can knock down a 3?

 

[Lizakers]

did we sign anyone who can knock down a 3?

No. But AD has been with lethal shooter smh

 

[James_O]

did we sign anyone who can knock down a 3?

If we got Kyrie that wouldn’t be a problem.

 

[Lizakers]

Our shooting actually got worse losing Monk