The thunders problems is that they lack the depth needed for a championship. Although it has been getting better, they are way to reliant upon Durant and Westbrook. I would rather have those guys take the shot anyway rather than Lamb, (previously) Thabo, Jackson.
Dont worry, someone will try to discredit the numbers somehow.
It's just funny because even if you do believe in clutch, then why does he significantly underperform in elimination games and G7's?
Aren't those the 2 times when a clutch player would excel?
Elimination games: 21.5 ppg on 41.4% FG with 5.8rpg and 3.5apg (19 games)
G7's: 22.2ppg on 38.9% FG with 8.0rpg and 5.0apg (6 games)
I'm just a stupid stats guy, tho, I'm sure there's a logical explanation to all of this.
Yeah, except he averaged 28, 8, and 4 on 57/52/79 shooting in the series. His usage rate in the series was 33%, I don't know how much higher you think it should've been. San Antonio as a whole just destroyed Miami as a whole. This is why it's dumb to only use team performance to judge individual players. I don't know what it's gonna take to get people to realize it's a team sport.
He racked up a **** ton of winning/accolades in that stretch before he tore his achilles.
Uhhhhh, he didn't play in the 2013 playoffs man. Achilles..... :\
And 2002, the Sacramento series is the only game the Lakers faced elimination. They swept the Blazers, the swept the Nets, they beat the Spurs in 5, HOLY ****, he played 2 games vs the Kings in the same series that count as elims!!!!!!
Ok, hold on a sec, that's my bad. Yep, 2010 also then. Boston twice. Ok, now I got it.
Ok, well, considering I get to add game 6 of 2002, a game he went 31/11/5, I'd say that's fairly decent. And game 6 2010? 26/11/3/4 steals in a 22 point blowout win. Followed by the 23/15/2 game 7, just with horrible shooting.
Iono, maybe tomorrow I can break all those games down now that we have them identified. But like I said, 97-98 are games that drag down his averages, but hardly count in the grand scheme of his career. From 2000-12, nobody won more than he did during the prime of his career. Despite a complete rebuild, coaches come, go, come back, various injuries to his shooting hand, ankle, shoulder, rape.......
Uhhhhh, he didn't play in the 2013 playoffs man. Achilles..... :\
And 2002, the Sacramento series is the only game the Lakers faced elimination. They swept the Blazers, the swept the Nets, they beat the Spurs in 5, HOLY ****, he played 2 games vs the Kings in the same series that count as elims!!!!!!
Ok, hold on a sec, that's my bad. Yep, 2010 also then. Boston twice. Ok, now I got it.
Ok, well, considering I get to add game 6 of 2002, a game he went 31/11/5, I'd say that's fairly decent. And game 6 2010? 26/11/3/4 steals in a 22 point blowout win. Followed by the 23/15/2 game 7, just with horrible shooting.
Iono, maybe tomorrow I can break all those games down now that we have them identified. But like I said, 97-98 are games that drag down his averages, but hardly count in the grand scheme of his career. From 2000-12, nobody won more than he did during the prime of his career. Despite a complete rebuild, coaches come, go, come back, various injuries to his shooting hand, ankle, shoulder, rape.......
G4 in 2012-2013 against the Spurs, no?
There's a chance im wrong, I haven't slept in almost 2 days,
I realize its a team sport. I was more so commenting on the fact that is better to have the best most capable player of making the shot make it. Why pass it off unless its to Ray Allen with an open three. I feel like big time players take a big time shot. If your team is "bad" or not playing well I don't think you should put the ball in their hands. Lebron had a great series but lots of those stats were during garbage time. To keep the thread on topic though ill leave it alone.
Yeah, except he averaged 28, 8, and 4 on 57/52/79 shooting in the series. His usage rate in the series was 33%, I don't know how much higher you think it should've been. San Antonio as a whole just destroyed Miami as a whole. This is why it's dumb to only use team performance to judge individual players. I don't know what it's gonna take to get people to realize it's a team sport.
what is all this nonsense going on?
why are we bringing up espn worthy stats like playoff elimination games to prove anything?
kobe dominates a series to the point where the lakers sweep and none of those games matter because he never played an elimination game
how will we ever know how clutch mj was in the finals, his team never played a game 7
games 1-2-3-4 of the nba finals doesnt count but for some reason game 4 vs the mavs in 2012 is considered one of the 25 biggest games of his career. this is what happens when you blindly use stats to tell your story without thinking
all you do is blindly use stats to back your poorly constructed argumentsI'm not blindly using anything, you're a Kobe rider so you're going to disagree w/ anything that I say and then get reps from the Kobe brigade.what is all this nonsense going on?
why are we bringing up espn worthy stats like playoff elimination games to prove anything?
kobe dominates a series to the point where the lakers sweep and none of those games matter because he never played an elimination game
how will we ever know how clutch mj was in the finals, his team never played a game 7
games 1-2-3-4 of the nba finals doesnt count but for some reason game 4 vs the mavs in 2012 is considered one of the 25 biggest games of his career. this is what happens when you blindly use stats to tell your story without thinking
Elimanation games are always big games, I don't care if his team was in an 0-3 hole.
He underperforms in elimination games, it's a fact, just like him having 5 rings is a fact.
