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What about MVPs? Those same idiot voters are making those determinations so why should we take those seriously?
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What about MVPs? Those same idiot voters are making those determinations so why should we take those seriously?
Oh gosh they are idiots now?
I agree human voting can be flawed
Its multiple NBA coaches and GMs voting on those selections
They watch more film than me, you or some other internet nerd does
Watching the NBA and analyzing it is their job
If there was a number of other "below average" defensive players who made All-Defensive teams, I would give more credence to the voting is severely flawed train of thought
Tell ya what, how bout this?
Tony Allen, 2 All NBA Defensive teams. 2.
Bruce Bowen, 5 All NBA Defensive teams. 5.
Shane Battier, 0 All NBA Defensive teams. 0.
Raja Bell, 1 All NBA Defensive team. 1.
Shawn Marion, 0 All NBA Defensive teams. 0.
5 of the best defenders you've ever seen play defense in the NBA. 8 TOTAL selections, in ALL of their careers COMBINED. Like 40+ NBA seasons they've played. 8.
Kobe Braynt, 9.
Voters, are, idiots.
Don't be like them man.
Per 48 is the worst stat ever invented.....There is a reason that players don't play 48 minutes. To say well if Y player is better than X player because their per 48 is better is stupid. First, no player is going to play 48 minutes a game (granted that there isn't overtimes). Second, the per 48 favors bench players a lot. Player Y got 3 steals 12 minutes doesn't guarantee that if he played 48 minutes he would have 12 steals.
what are your thoughts on per 36 minute stats?Per 48 is the worst stat ever invented.....There is a reason that players don't play 48 minutes. To say well if Y player is better than X player because their per 48 is better is stupid. First, no player is going to play 48 minutes a game (granted that there isn't overtimes). Second, the per 48 favors bench players a lot. Player Y got 3 steals 12 minutes doesn't guarantee that if he played 48 minutes he would have 12 steals.
Per 48 is the worst stat ever invented.....There is a reason that players don't play 48 minutes. To say well if Y player is better than X player because their per 48 is better is stupid. First, no player is going to play 48 minutes a game (granted that there isn't overtimes). Second, the per 48 favors bench players a lot. Player Y got 3 steals 12 minutes doesn't guarantee that if he played 48 minutes he would have 12 steals.
you do realize that there are 48 minutes per game........ and yes it is a terrible stat. Why make a number constant that both players wont play. Also, if a player doesn't play as much as another it because they didn't earn the rights to play that much.It's not the worst stat ever invented.
It tries to make one variable constant. It's called statistical analysis, and trying to measure a wide array of stats, while keeping something equal.
Why would you try to keep minutes equal? Because different minutes will often result in different numbers every where. It also does not favor bench players because if you are a **** bench player in 15 minutes, your numbers will still be **** in 48 minutes. The margin at which a guy like Kobe would compare to a **** player would remain relatively constant, and would show. Especially in a category like PER. Actually the PER is much more efficient at a PER 36 & 48 than it is at per game. It is saying well, if you can do this in X minutes, how will you do it in 48 minutes. It would increase Kobe's minutes as well. And if you got 3 steals per 12 minutes a game, you likely would not be playing 12 minutes per game because you are some kind of basketball savant on defense. But that's not to say you do not consider other factors to ensure bias as well. You wouldn't compare the PER 48 of a guy who played 82 games versus one who played 10. Just as you wouldn't compare a garbage time player versus a star.
Also PER 48 is not saying hey... Let's see how he would play if he played 48 minutes on Thursday. It's saying, how would he fare every 48 minutes of play. Which can be multiple games. Because you are taking Total Number of Steals Divided by Total Minutes Played... Then multiplying by 48.
Even Per Game isn't 100% flawless. They invent these stats, to get multiple ways to look at thing because every stat has statistical bias, and the more ways to look at things, the better you can accurately look at it.
Also the PER 48 is measuring a full season, not a single game. In which your stats would regress back to the mean (average). In the same way you would not measure Kobe's PPG based only on the night he had 81 points.