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I just reread the article, Tung and Kyle weren't actually arrested and charged, that's pending the outcome of the investigation, I did want to clear that up because I posted incorrectly
GREY MARKET DISCUSSION THREAD VOL. 2!!! (LET'S KEEP THE DISCUSSION MATURE) RULES ON PG 1 PLEASE READ
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which is why i didnt comment on the article/sitation.
it was talked about months ago when it happened. the guy worked for nike and was buying legit samples and selling them/collecting or w/e
@ you dudes thinking he was messing with fakes
Im agreeing with you!
my bad for bringing up an old subject.
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I doubt there arent any pairs made in the same factory that are snuck out the back when a shoe first comes out tho. That's what I have been calling GM this whole time. When Is say fake I mean from a different factory.
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I'm sure there are some backdoor sales going on, but they don't account for the vast majority of GMs on the market.
Years ago GMs really were backdoor shoes, but that was long before there was as great of a demand for expensive sneakers as their is today. This is where a lot people got shoes like the 01 I's with a the full color Jumpman on the heel or the DMP XIs with the "JORDAN" eyelets (some of which even made their way into retail sales).
The demand for Air Jordans is so high it has made Nike pull out of Indonesia, Vietnam, Taiwan, etc. and contract all their production to massive Chinese facilities who can produce a much greater number of shoes. Moving everything to China has made it much easier for the counterfeiters to take their intellectual property, blueprints and even machines to separate facilities and produce their own runs of the shoes. Operating in separate facilities allows the counterfeiters to ramp up production because they can manufacture their own shoes all day long, instead of "sharing" the time in the facility, manufacturing authorized Nikes for the majority of the day.
Looking at it from a purely fiscal standpoint, with an item as in demand as Air Jordan, it doesn't make sense to manufacture counterfeits in the same facilities that the authentic are made.
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^^^^Good point. Makes perfect sense.
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Back to the XVIIs..... has anyone bought a pair of GM XVIIs? Are GM XVIIs still readily available ? ...or was it just a one time only thing ? I haven't heard much about them since the last thread.
I ask, because I'm under the impression that those may have been true backdoor shoes that got "lost" in a warehouse somewhere, and not a fresh run of "GMs" per se. IIRC those popped up on GM sites at the same time as some small batches of "authentic" 2001 Concord XIs complete with age yellowed soles and all.
It's not unlikely that those were "lost" or stolen shoes that were stored somewhere to give them time to "cool down" and people forgot about them. Keep in mind these Chinese production districts are filled with warehouses and shipping containers, so its not too unlikely that something like this could happen.
I ask, because I'm under the impression that those may have been true backdoor shoes that got "lost" in a warehouse somewhere, and not a fresh run of "GMs" per se. IIRC those popped up on GM sites at the same time as some small batches of "authentic" 2001 Concord XIs complete with age yellowed soles and all.
It's not unlikely that those were "lost" or stolen shoes that were stored somewhere to give them time to "cool down" and people forgot about them. Keep in mind these Chinese production districts are filled with warehouses and shipping containers, so its not too unlikely that something like this could happen.
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"Unauthorized" quality foamposites? Thats a first
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they have had fake foamposites for years now
srs
srs
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I know that. All of the fake foams ive ever seen have an awkward shape, plastic instead of carbon fiber, and are made of a squishy plastic material.
The ones in his video look like they have real foamposite material and real carbon fiber. Ive just never seen a pair of high quality fakes such as those
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i mean high quality fakes with the real carbon. they have had them for the last few years now.
some sites just release the dirty copper foams. doubt those are releasing anytime soon, am i correct? they just released the yeezy pro as well.
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Fake factories got the blueprints now? Been wondering how fakes have kicked their game up recently. srs. A lotta ****** would be getting got if it wasnt for these real vs fake videos.
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A LOT of dudes still getting got even with all these videos, websites, and people pointing out every difference
people dont wanna accept things once they spend their hard earned money or they just wanna show off since Jordans/Kicks are the new thing to have these days. to the youngsters, if the kicks got a jumpman you are cool thats how it is, srsly
people dont wanna accept things once they spend their hard earned money or they just wanna show off since Jordans/Kicks are the new thing to have these days. to the youngsters, if the kicks got a jumpman you are cool
thats how it is, srsly
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It's been months since I read an article(s) on this case
In a nutshell
From what I remember All the real Look See samples were ordered from the official nike campus in Oregon. Those shoes were then sent to the nike Campus and Ho or the other guy was CAUGHT ON CAMERA (what an idiot) talking literally hundreds of those unique one of a kind sample shoes and selling them to the guy from Florida. Some of the shoes he stole wernt just look see samples.
The investigation proved that this had been going on as fare back as 2005/2006? something like that.
Anyways, I never heard anything about these guys ordering hundreds of pairs from factories, But like I said it's been months since I read those articles so tell me if I'm wrong. I didn't feel like re-reading a bunch of garbage I had already read. -SD
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I'm going to call him the DUFFLE BAG BOY because he clearly took a huge empty duffle bag into the secret building where they keep ALL the samples and walked out with it full in plain view of employees and cameras.
Off topic & and for the record: Jays have always been the cool thing that people crave. what we are seeing zyzz is the culture changing. it bleeping sucks sometimes.
Off topic & and for the record: Jays have always been the cool thing that people crave. what we are seeing zyzz is the culture changing. it bleeping sucks sometimes.
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dankenstien88
really knows his stuff when it comes to early releases/GM's
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Zyzz is right, they "perfected" foamposite fakes when the pink foams dropped.
Even though they have the general shape right the glue job is usually terrible and sloppy.
There's even an article where a guy cuts into a pair of fake foams that look exactly like retail outside to show the internals of the fake isn't the same.
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So what are the general signs of GM 6s? I don't want to get got when I order Sports Blue 6s in the near future.
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It's so hard to tell with that particular shoe. I've seen both GM and store bought and they are virtually the same. At least on the pair that I've seen. I'd ask for a receipt if you're thinking about purchasing outside of a reputable brick and mortar store.
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Well when the SB6 first hit retail stores the only difference I noticed between the GM/Legit was the tongue tag tint, but I'm sure that they have that difference corrected on the new runs of GM's
It's been pointed out by MrDeeds that the stitching on the ankle bumps is always suspect on the GMs in comparison to the legits but, I myself could not see the differnece on the one alleged GM that I was comparing mine too, but the pics weren't the best either.
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Thanks guys, but I would like to here from the experts like Zyzz since GMs are all "blatantly obvious and not at all comparable".
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Thoughts on this video/Legend blue 11's?
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Thoughts on this video/Legend blue 11's?
They're fake. End of story. No early release shoe produced in mass quantities is authentic.
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Thanks
It really comes down to knowledge of the Chinese production industry, manufacturing process and all the shady stuff that goes on behind the scenes. This kind of stuff applies to so much more than sneakers. But some people are so consumed with their infatuation for Nike/JB, they want to believe that their favorite company is somehow immune to these widespread practices.
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